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MadDog's Pre-Combine Big 175 Board

On the backend of February already, and days before the 2013 NFL Combine, here is my second stab at the Big Board, which increased from 100 to 175 players. My goal is to have a Big 200 soon after the combine.

This Big Board is NOT A MOCK DRAFT. Sorry for having to put in bold for the vets who know how this works. Mock drafts are silly beyond the first handful of picks, since trading is a major part of the whole process. In fact, more than 1/3 of all picks will be traded, so it is better to project an area where a player might be selected, rather than an exact team at an exact spot, which is like plowing the sea. In a perfect world, I would hit on all players at all slots, like Chris Culliver at number 80 two years ago. That is not my goal, but rather a projected area where the player should fall.

If my Excel Spreadsheet has played tricks on me, and you see Matt Barkley playing center for Rutgers, please let me know. That would obviously be hilarious...and inaccurate. I strive to spell correctly, so please help if you see an error. Finally, please add feedback, as I may be insane to leave off a favorite player or two. I will explain my rationale. Cheers.

Some notes on those falling and rising: I think the draft will see zero MLB's go in the first round, but be clustered in the second with the big three: Ogletree, Manti, and Minter all going somewhere in the 35-55 range. I perceive only two WR's and one RB going in the first, with Patterson climbing over a descending Allen, and Lacy being challenged, but not surpassed by Bernard. I also see medicals playing into the first round, with Jarvis Jones neck causing concern enough to drop him out of the top ten picks. Finally, I'd bet the house, farm, kids, and dog that Luke Joeckel will be drafted first overall. The big question is from number 2 down.

1 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M OT
2 Star Lotulelei Utah DT
3 Bjoern Werner Florida St DE/OLB
4 Geno Smith West Virginia QB
5 Sheldon Richardson Missouri DT
6 Sharrif Floyd Florida DT
7 Dee Milliner Alabama CB
8 Eric Fisher Central Michigan OT
9 Dion Jordan Oregon DE/OLB
10 Lane Johnson Oklahoma OT
11 Chance Warmack Alabama G
12 Jarvis Jones Georgia OLB
13 Ezekiel Ansah BYU DE/OLB
14 Kenny Vaccaro Texas S
15 Johnathan Hankins Ohio St DT
16 Johnthan Banks Mississippi St CB
17 Datone Jones UCLA DE
18 Damontre Moore Texas A&M DE
19 Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee WR
20 Jesse Williams Alabama DT
21 Xavier Rhodes Florida St CB
22 DJ Fluker Alabama OT
23 Barkevious Mingo LSU OLB
24 Alex Okafor Texas DE
25 Jonathan Cooper North Carolina G
26 Matt Elam Florida S
27 Desmond Trufant Washington CB
28 Keenan Allen Cal WR
29 Mike Glennon NC State QB
30 Eddie Lacy Alabama RB
31 Zach Ertz Stanford TE
32 Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE
33 EJ Manuel Florida St QB
34 Kawann Short Purdue DT
35 David Amerson NC State CB
36 Alec Ogletree Georgia LB
37 Tyler Wilson Arkansas QB
38 DeAndre Hopkins Clemson WR
39 Matt Barkley USC QB
40 Sam Montgomery LSU DE/OLB
41 Jordan Poyer Oregon St CB
42 Markus Wheaton Oregon St WR
43 Giovani Bernard North Carolina RB
44 John Jenkins Georgia DT
45 Quinton Patton Louisiana Tech WR
46 Ryan Nassib Syracuse QB
47 Tavon Austin West Virginia WR
48 Sylvester Williams North Carolina DT
49 Kevin Minter LSU LB
50 Manti Te'o Notre Dame LB
51 Robert Woods USC WR
52 Logan Ryan Rutgers CB
53 Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St DT
54 Arthur Brown Kansas St LB
55 Jonathan Cyprien Florida International S
56 Stedman Bailey West Virginia WR
57 Travis Frederick Wisconsin C/G
58 Marquise Goodwin Texas WR
59 DJ Swearinger South Carolina S
60 Tyler Bray Tennessee QB
61 Eric Reid LSU S
62 Phillip Thomas Fresno State S
63 David Quessenberry San Jose St G/OT
64 Stepfan Taylor Stanford RB
65 Larry Warford Kentucky G
66 Khaseem Greene Rutgers LB
67 Terrance Williams Baylor WR
68 Vance McDonald Rice TE
69 Travis Kelce Cincinnati TE
70 Robert Alford Southeastern Louisiana CB
71 Margus Hunt SMU DE
72 Aaron Dobson Marshall WR
73 Akeem Spence Illinois DT
74 Leon McFaddon San Diego St CB
75 Landry Jones Oklahoma QB
76 Gavin Escobar San Diego St TE
77 Barrett Jones Alabama C/G
78 Andre Ellington Clemson RB
79 Montee Ball Wisconsin RB
80 Justin Hunter Tennessee WR
81 Christine Michael Texas A&M RB
82 David Bakhtiari Colorado OT
83 Oday Aboushi Syracuse G/OT
84 Jordan Reed Florida TE
85 Malliciah Goodman Clemson DE
86 Menelik Watson Florida St OT
87 Jonathan Franklin UCLA RB
88 Joseph Randle Oklahoma State RB
89 Tony Jefferson Oklahoma S
90 Zavier Gooden Missouri LB
91 Tavarres King Georgia WR
92 Jamar Taylor Boise St CB
93 Dallas Thomas Tennessee OT
94 Kyle Long Oregon G/OT
95 Justin Pugh Syracuse G
96 Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine Bluff OT
97 Sio Moore Connecticut LB
98 BW Webb William and Mary CB
99 Mike Gilleslee Florida RB
100 JJ Wilcox Georgia Southern S
101 TJ McDonald USC S
102 Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech WR
103 Cornelius Washington Georgia DE/OLB
104 Chris Faulk LSU OT
105 Dion Sims Michigan St TE
106 Kevin Reddick North Carolina LB
107 Devin Taylor South Carolina DE
108 Brian Schwenke Cal C
109 Jordan Mills Louisiana Tech OT
110 Darius Slay Mississippi St CB
111 Bennie Logan LSU DT
112 Alvin Bailey Arkansas G
113 Jon Bostic Florida LB
114 William Gholston Michigan St DE
115 David Bass Missouri Western St DE
116 Tyrann Matheiu LSU CB
117 Jelani Jenkins Florida CB
118 Cornellius Carradine Florida St DE
119 Corey Lemonier Auburn DE/OLB
120 Bacarri Rambo Georgia S
121 Brandon Jenkins Florida St LB
122 Sean Porter Texas A&M LB
123 Brennan Williams North Carolina OT
124 Khaled Holmes USC C
125 Ace Sanders South Carolina WR
126 Wes Horton USC DE
127 Michael Buchanan Illinois DE
128 Le'Veon Bell Michigan St RB
129 Everett Dawkins Florida St DT
130 Kenny Stills Oklahoma WR
131 Jamie Collins Southern Mississippi LB
132 Keith Pough Howard LB
133 Nico Johnson Alabama LB
134 Marcus Lattimore South Carolina RB
135 Ryan Swope Texas A&M WR
136 AJ Klein Iowa St LB
137 Conner Vernon Duke WR
138 Ray Graham Pittsburgh RB
139 Josh Evans Florida S
140 Cierre Wood Notre Dame RB
141 Brandon McGee Miami CB
142 Knile Davis Arkansas RB
143 Cobi Hamilton Arkansas WR
144 Zeke Motta Notre Dame S
145 Stansly Maponga TCU DE/OLB
146 Matt Scott Arizona QB
147 Ricky Wagner Wisconsin OT
148 Manase Foketi West Texas A&M OT
149 Lonnie Pryor Florida St FB
150 Will Davis Utah St CB
151 Jordan Hill Penn St DT
152 Michael Williams Alabama TE
153 Denard Robinson Michigan WR
154 Nick Kasa Colorado TE
155 Dennis Johnson Arkansas RB
156 Branden Smith Georgia CB
157 Shawn Williams Georgia S
158 Tharold Simon LSU CB
159 Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M WR
160 Brad Sorensen Southern Utah QB
161 Kiko Alonso Oregon LB
162 Shamarko Thomas Syracuse S
163 Chris Harper Kansas St WR
164 Mychal Rivera Tennessee TE
165 Rex Burkhead Nebraska RB
166 Kwame Geathers Georgia DT
167 Chase Thomas Stanford LB
168 Lavar Edwards LSU DE
169 Gerald Hodges Penn St LB
170 Xavier Nixon Florida St OT
171 Brad Wing LSU P
172 Lucas Reed New Mexico TE
173 Brian Winters Kent St G
174 Mike Catapano Princeton DE
175 Jasper Collins Mount Union WR
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Feb 18, 2013 at 3:41 PM ]
Thanks for all your work MD, interesting list! I realize this is not a mock but it seems to have players valued ahead of most SF mocks, where Jones and J Williams are very popular. The top two TEs at 31 and 32 seems to be a change? I see the CBS list also has these guys in the 30s, with Ertz ahead.

When I look at a list like this it reinforces just how much difference there is in picking low or high in a round. I like to look at picking 31st as if the niners do not have a first round pick...easier on me when they draft and all the darlings are gone!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Feb 18, 2013 at 8:23 AM ]
  • mayo49
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Thanks, Mad. Much appreciated.
I sure hope your right and Patterson falls to 19th but this WR is moving up the rankings i've seen him as high as 6th - 9th.
Terrance Williams, Baylor is entered twice. At 67 and 102. What do I win?
Ok, aside from being a smart a$$, I love it. If the draft were to fall that way, I'd totally get behind moving down from #31 as Kawaan Short, John Jenkins, and Sylvester Williams are all available later in the draft. That would give Baalke more ammo to move up from a lower pick higher into the 2nd to get a true blue chipper.

However, based on Baalke's track record, he'll probably just draft the player he likes at #31 instead of chance missing out on them in a trade down (even though they could upgrade their next pick with the extra value).
Originally posted by Butter:
Terrance Williams, Baylor is entered twice. At 67 and 102. What do I win?

Toaster on the way.
Originally posted by SkyGod:
I sure hope your right and Patterson falls to 19th but this WR is moving up the rankings i've seen him as high as 6th - 9th.

Could go earlier, but surely could go later. These early entry guys have a lot to win and lose over the combine and campus workouts.
maddog. Do you think David Amerson is a safety or a corner in the nfl ? He had a great 2011 season but was abused in 2012.
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Amerson will be a corner in the NFL.. he reminds me of Todd Lyght..

Thanks MD. Great job as always. After the combine in your spare time, would it be possible to come out with a list denoting your personal rankings of this years class.
I think Amerson is a safety in the NFL. He was exposed big time in 2012 as a CB.
[ Edited by SanFranFanfrmVa on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM ]
Montgomery at 40 is a crime!

... but overall, I like what you do, MD. Catapano at 174 shows me you really do your homework. But you iz wrong about Montgomery.. he better than 40.
Based on MD's ranking and my extreme personal bias's, here is how I would draft if it really did fall this way:

#31 Kawaan Short

trade #61 + #109 for #53
#53 Brandon Williams

Trade Alex Smith to the Chiefs for #63 (3rd)
#63 Travis Kelce

#74 Justin Hunter

#93 Bacarri Rambo (this should probably be a CB, but I really want him. Also I think the Niners will treat the CB spot like they did the DT spot last draft)

4th Round Comp: David Bass 3/4 OLB

Trade172 + 191 for 136
#136 Brandon Mcgee

#159 Lonnie Pryor (if he falls a bit)

Ran out of MD rankings
Whats your take on C/G Mario Benevides, Louisville? He was a finalists for the Remington award. I noticed he wasn't given an invite for the combine. In my opinion he is a top 3 center prospect in this years draft.
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