MadDog's Pre-Combine Big 175 Board

MadDog49er · 2013-02-18T08:02:35-08:00

On the backend of February already, and days before the 2013 NFL Combine, here is my second stab at the Big Board, which increased from 100 to 175 players. My goal is to have a Big 200 soon after the combine. This Big Board is NOT A MOCK DRAFT. Sorry for having to put in bold for the vets who know how this works. Mock drafts are silly beyond the first handful of picks, since trading is a major part of the whole process. In fact, more than 1/3 of all picks will be traded, so it is better to project an area where a player might be selected, rather than an exact team at an exact spot, which is like plowing the sea. In a perfect world, I would hit on all players at all slots, like Chris Culliver at number 80 two years ago. That is not my goal, but rather a projected area where the player should fall. If my Excel Spreadsheet has played tricks on me, and you see Matt Barkley playing center for Rutgers, please let me know. That would obviously be hilarious...and inaccurate. I strive to spell correctly, so please help if you see an error. Finally, please add feedback, as I may be insane to leave off a favorite player or two. I will explain my rationale. Cheers. Some notes on those falling and rising: I think the draft will see zero MLB's go in the first round, but be clustered in the second with the big three: Ogletree, Manti, and Minter all going somewhere in the 35-55 range. I perceive only two WR's and one RB going in the first, with Patterson climbing over a descending Allen, and Lacy being challenged, but not surpassed by Bernard. I also see medicals playing into the first round, with Jarvis Jones neck causing concern enough to drop him out of the top ten picks. Finally, I'd bet the house, farm, kids, and dog that Luke Joeckel will be drafted first overall. The big question is from number 2 down. 1 Luke Joeckel Texas A&M OT 2 Star Lotulelei Utah DT 3 Bjoern Werner Florida St DE/OLB 4 Geno Smith West Virginia QB 5 Sheldon Richardson Missouri DT 6 Sharrif Floyd Florida DT 7 Dee Milliner Alabama CB 8 Eric Fisher Central Michigan OT 9 Dion Jordan Oregon DE/OLB 10 Lane Johnson Oklahoma OT 11 Chance Warmack Alabama G 12 Jarvis Jones Georgia OLB 13 Ezekiel Ansah BYU DE/OLB 14 Kenny Vaccaro Texas S 15 Johnathan Hankins Ohio St DT 16 Johnthan Banks Mississippi St CB 17 Datone Jones UCLA DE 18 Damontre Moore Texas A&M DE 19 Cordarrelle Patterson Tennessee WR 20 Jesse Williams Alabama DT 21 Xavier Rhodes Florida St CB 22 DJ Fluker Alabama OT 23 Barkevious Mingo LSU OLB 24 Alex Okafor Texas DE 25 Jonathan Cooper North Carolina G 26 Matt Elam Florida S 27 Desmond Trufant Washington CB 28 Keenan Allen Cal WR 29 Mike Glennon NC State QB 30 Eddie Lacy Alabama RB 31 Zach Ertz Stanford TE 32 Tyler Eifert Notre Dame TE 33 EJ Manuel Florida St QB 34 Kawann Short Purdue DT 35 David Amerson NC State CB 36 Alec Ogletree Georgia LB 37 Tyler Wilson Arkansas QB 38 DeAndre Hopkins Clemson WR 39 Matt Barkley USC QB 40 Sam Montgomery LSU DE/OLB 41 Jordan Poyer Oregon St CB 42 Markus Wheaton Oregon St WR 43 Giovani Bernard North Carolina RB 44 John Jenkins Georgia DT 45 Quinton Patton Louisiana Tech WR 46 Ryan Nassib Syracuse QB 47 Tavon Austin West Virginia WR 48 Sylvester Williams North Carolina DT 49 Kevin Minter LSU LB 50 Manti Te'o Notre Dame LB 51 Robert Woods USC WR 52 Logan Ryan Rutgers CB 53 Brandon Williams Missouri Southern St DT 54 Arthur Brown Kansas St LB 55 Jonathan Cyprien Florida International S 56 Stedman Bailey West Virginia WR 57 Travis Frederick Wisconsin C/G 58 Marquise Goodwin Texas WR 59 DJ Swearinger South Carolina S 60 Tyler Bray Tennessee QB 61 Eric Reid LSU S 62 Phillip Thomas Fresno State S 63 David Quessenberry San Jose St G/OT 64 Stepfan Taylor Stanford RB 65 Larry Warford Kentucky G 66 Khaseem Greene Rutgers LB 67 Terrance Williams Baylor WR 68 Vance McDonald Rice TE 69 Travis Kelce Cincinnati TE 70 Robert Alford Southeastern Louisiana CB 71 Margus Hunt SMU DE 72 Aaron Dobson Marshall WR 73 Akeem Spence Illinois DT 74 Leon McFaddon San Diego St CB 75 Landry Jones Oklahoma QB 76 Gavin Escobar San Diego St TE 77 Barrett Jones Alabama C/G 78 Andre Ellington Clemson RB 79 Montee Ball Wisconsin RB 80 Justin Hunter Tennessee WR 81 Christine Michael Texas A&M RB 82 David Bakhtiari Colorado OT 83 Oday Aboushi Syracuse G/OT 84 Jordan Reed Florida TE 85 Malliciah Goodman Clemson DE 86 Menelik Watson Florida St OT 87 Jonathan Franklin UCLA RB 88 Joseph Randle Oklahoma State RB 89 Tony Jefferson Oklahoma S 90 Zavier Gooden Missouri LB 91 Tavarres King Georgia WR 92 Jamar Taylor Boise St CB 93 Dallas Thomas Tennessee OT 94 Kyle Long Oregon G/OT 95 Justin Pugh Syracuse G 96 Terron Armstead Arkansas Pine Bluff OT 97 Sio Moore Connecticut LB 98 BW Webb William and Mary CB 99 Mike Gilleslee Florida RB 100 JJ Wilcox Georgia Southern S 101 TJ McDonald USC S 102 Da'Rick Rogers Tennessee Tech WR 103 Cornelius Washington Georgia DE/OLB 104 Chris Faulk LSU OT 105 Dion Sims Michigan St TE 106 Kevin Reddick North Carolina LB 107 Devin Taylor South Carolina DE 108 Brian Schwenke Cal C 109 Jordan Mills Louisiana Tech OT 110 Darius Slay Mississippi St CB 111 Bennie Logan LSU DT 112 Alvin Bailey Arkansas G 113 Jon Bostic Florida LB 114 William Gholston Michigan St DE 115 David Bass Missouri Western St DE 116 Tyrann Matheiu LSU CB 117 Jelani Jenkins Florida CB 118 Cornellius Carradine Florida St DE 119 Corey Lemonier Auburn DE/OLB 120 Bacarri Rambo Georgia S 121 Brandon Jenkins Florida St LB 122 Sean Porter Texas A&M LB 123 Brennan Williams North Carolina OT 124 Khaled Holmes USC C 125 Ace Sanders South Carolina WR 126 Wes Horton USC DE 127 Michael Buchanan Illinois DE 128 Le'Veon Bell Michigan St RB 129 Everett Dawkins Florida St DT 130 Kenny Stills Oklahoma WR 131 Jamie Collins Southern Mississippi LB 132 Keith Pough Howard LB 133 Nico Johnson Alabama LB 134 Marcus Lattimore South Carolina RB 135 Ryan Swope Texas A&M WR 136 AJ Klein Iowa St LB 137 Conner Vernon Duke WR 138 Ray Graham Pittsburgh RB 139 Josh Evans Florida S 140 Cierre Wood Notre Dame RB 141 Brandon McGee Miami CB 142 Knile Davis Arkansas RB 143 Cobi Hamilton Arkansas WR 144 Zeke Motta Notre Dame S 145 Stansly Maponga TCU DE/OLB 146 Matt Scott Arizona QB 147 Ricky Wagner Wisconsin OT 148 Manase Foketi West Texas A&M OT 149 Lonnie Pryor Florida St FB 150 Will Davis Utah St CB 151 Jordan Hill Penn St DT 152 Michael Williams Alabama TE 153 Denard Robinson Michigan WR 154 Nick Kasa Colorado TE 155 Dennis Johnson Arkansas RB 156 Branden Smith Georgia CB 157 Shawn Williams Georgia S 158 Tharold Simon LSU CB 159 Uzoma Nwachukwu Texas A&M WR 160 Brad Sorensen Southern Utah QB 161 Kiko Alonso Oregon LB 162 Shamarko Thomas Syracuse S 163 Chris Harper Kansas St WR 164 Mychal Rivera Tennessee TE 165 Rex Burkhead Nebraska RB 166 Kwame Geathers Georgia DT 167 Chase Thomas Stanford LB 168 Lavar Edwards LSU DE 169 Gerald Hodges Penn St LB 170 Xavier Nixon Florida St OT 171 Brad Wing LSU P 172 Lucas Reed New Mexico TE 173 Brian Winters Kent St G 174 Mike Catapano Princeton DE 175 Jasper Collins Mount Union WR

Feb 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM

dtg_9er
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Thanks for all your work MD, interesting list! I realize this is not a mock but it seems to have players valued ahead of most SF mocks, where Jones and J Williams are very popular. The top two TEs at 31 and 32 seems to be a change? I see the CBS list also has these guys in the 30s, with Ertz ahead.

When I look at a list like this it reinforces just how much difference there is in picking low or high in a round. I like to look at picking 31st as if the niners do not have a first round pick...easier on me when they draft and all the darlings are gone!

[ Edited by dtg_9er on Feb 18, 2013 at 8:23 AM ]

Feb 18, 2013 at 8:25 AM

mayo49
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Thanks, Mad. Much appreciated.

Feb 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM

SkyGod
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I sure hope your right and Patterson falls to 19th but this WR is moving up the rankings i've seen him as high as 6th - 9th.

Feb 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Butter
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Terrance Williams, Baylor is entered twice. At 67 and 102. What do I win?

Feb 18, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Butter
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Ok, aside from being a smart a$$, I love it. If the draft were to fall that way, I'd totally get behind moving down from #31 as Kawaan Short, John Jenkins, and Sylvester Williams are all available later in the draft. That would give Baalke more ammo to move up from a lower pick higher into the 2nd to get a true blue chipper.

However, based on Baalke's track record, he'll probably just draft the player he likes at #31 instead of chance missing out on them in a trade down (even though they could upgrade their next pick with the extra value).

Feb 18, 2013 at 9:35 AM

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by Butter:
Terrance Williams, Baylor is entered twice. At 67 and 102. What do I win?

Toaster on the way.

Feb 18, 2013 at 9:36 AM

MadDog49er
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Originally posted by SkyGod:
I sure hope your right and Patterson falls to 19th but this WR is moving up the rankings i've seen him as high as 6th - 9th.

Could go earlier, but surely could go later. These early entry guys have a lot to win and lose over the combine and campus workouts.

Feb 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Mann716
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maddog. Do you think David Amerson is a safety or a corner in the nfl ? He had a great 2011 season but was abused in 2012.

Feb 18, 2013 at 10:30 AM

9moon
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Amerson will be a corner in the NFL.. he reminds me of Todd Lyght..

Feb 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

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ishkabibel
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Thanks MD. Great job as always. After the combine in your spare time, would it be possible to come out with a list denoting your personal rankings of this years class.

Feb 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM

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SanFranFanfrmVa
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I think Amerson is a safety in the NFL. He was exposed big time in 2012 as a CB.

[ Edited by SanFranFanfrmVa on Feb 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM ]

Feb 18, 2013 at 10:54 AM

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Mr.Mcgibblets
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Montgomery at 40 is a crime!

... but overall, I like what you do, MD. Catapano at 174 shows me you really do your homework. But you iz wrong about Montgomery.. he better than 40.

Feb 18, 2013 at 12:36 PM

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Butter
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Based on MD's ranking and my extreme personal bias's, here is how I would draft if it really did fall this way:

#31 Kawaan Short

trade #61 + #109 for #53
#53 Brandon Williams

Trade Alex Smith to the Chiefs for #63 (3rd)
#63 Travis Kelce

#74 Justin Hunter

#93 Bacarri Rambo (this should probably be a CB, but I really want him. Also I think the Niners will treat the CB spot like they did the DT spot last draft)

4th Round Comp: David Bass 3/4 OLB

Trade172 + 191 for 136
#136 Brandon Mcgee

#159 Lonnie Pryor (if he falls a bit)

Ran out of MD rankings

Feb 18, 2013 at 12:51 PM

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PacTiger
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Whats your take on C/G Mario Benevides, Louisville? He was a finalists for the Remington award. I noticed he wasn't given an invite for the combine. In my opinion he is a top 3 center prospect in this years draft.