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2013 Draft: Expect the Unexpected

Just like every year I sit around, categorize the positions of need, narrow down the players I'd like to see wearing 49er colors next year and since the Baalke era scratch my head on draft day and say to myself wtf? Who? Well this year guys and gals, I'm promising myself that I'm just going to sit back, cheer whomever the organization chooses to pick and trusting it.

Many of us are down on A.J. Jenkins, I for one think everyone that is trashing him now will be in the same position everyone that trashed the LMJ pick were in when he exploded onto the scene when Hunter went down and he got some PT. Sure I think we need a DT, CB, WR and some DL/OLB depth like everyone else, not to mention a K at some point in the draft.

The question I have for everyone here is, will you be pissed when nothing you think should happen actually happens and the team drafts someone or a certain position you do not like?
I'll be upset if a good defensive linemen is there for the taking and we reach for another position. Teams get themselves in trouble not taking the BPA when it's their turn to pick. At #30 last season there were several players there for the taking. I begged for us to take Janoris Jenkins and would've settled for Kendall Reyes or Courtney Upshaw but we took a undersized and skinny project receiver. We did end up getting more picks for the 2013 draft but the 2012 draft ended up being one of the worst in the NFL in it's first year.
Ive never been able pin point any of Baalke's picks...he is truly unpredictable...but I'm not ready to call Jenkins a bust like most....if he has a decent year 2 people will be thanking Baalke for getting the right guy...I doubt we use a high pick on a WR...that would make Baalke look like he made a mistake with Jenkins last year...

But I really have no idea...all I know is that Baalke is great at what he does and I expect another solid draft from us
I guess I get too emotionally involved. So the answer off past experience is yes I would be pissed. I wouldn't want it any other way. How dare they!
Not really! I trust that they know more than I do and Baalke has built up a lot of credibility with me. The 2011 draft was really incredible. While there have been many surprise picks, the only wtf pick was Jenkins. He was drafted much higher than all the mocks I had read but evidently was shooting up the charts for several teams.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Feb 17, 2013 at 8:12 AM ]
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'll be upset if a good defensive linemen is there for the taking and we reach for another position. Teams get themselves in trouble not taking the BPA when it's their turn to pick. At #30 last season there were several players there for the taking. I begged for us to take Janoris Jenkins and would've settled for Kendall Reyes or Courtney Upshaw but we took a undersized and skinny project receiver. We did end up getting more picks for the 2013 draft but the 2012 draft ended up being one of the worst in the NFL in it's first year.

Its amazing when people on here talk like this. I mean if you or I or anyone knew Reyes, Upshaw or Janoris Jenkins were going to be good players to pick at 30 as opposed to AJ Jenkins you would have a job in the NFL. But no you are on a fourm with the rest of the armchair GM's. Player A is a reach and Player B has good value, total BS from almost everyone on here. There is a reason people work as scouts and personnel directors and GM's.

Hindsight is 20/20
There are lots of positions that we could pick at #31. We really could almost go with BPA for OL/C, WR, TE, DL/DE, OLB, CB or S. However, instead of looking to fill 14 slots, trading up a few times would be nice. We're not a team full of holes and we're mostly looking for depth at this point. No need to reach and no need to get frustrated in this draft. Anything can happen and I wouldn't be worried about it this year for a change.
I can never tell what Baalke is thinking from Aldon Smith to AJ Jenkins last year but again that is why he is Great at evaluating talent. In Harbaalke We Must Trust!

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We need to go for quality not quanity in this draft. Package pics and move up for players you like in each round.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Feb 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
We need to go for quality not quanity in this draft. Package pics and move up for players you like in each round.

I agree with you on this but we need to strike a balance. I think a good strategy would be to take a look at the upcoming free agents in '14 and '15 and draft according to that. There is no way we should stay with 14 picks. I'd like to see us move back into the 2nd with out 31st pick and get another pick or two for next year and then move some of the lower picks to help us bump up. I'd be all for more 2nd-5th round picks.
Originally posted by NinerFan408:
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
I'll be upset if a good defensive linemen is there for the taking and we reach for another position. Teams get themselves in trouble not taking the BPA when it's their turn to pick. At #30 last season there were several players there for the taking. I begged for us to take Janoris Jenkins and would've settled for Kendall Reyes or Courtney Upshaw but we took a undersized and skinny project receiver. We did end up getting more picks for the 2013 draft but the 2012 draft ended up being one of the worst in the NFL in it's first year.

Its amazing when people on here talk like this. I mean if you or I or anyone knew Reyes, Upshaw or Janoris Jenkins were going to be good players to pick at 30 as opposed to AJ Jenkins you would have a job in the NFL. But no you are on a fourm with the rest of the armchair GM's. Player A is a reach and Player B has good value, total BS from almost everyone on here. There is a reason people work as scouts and personnel directors and GM's.

Hindsight is 20/20

Your comment shows a complete lack of understanding of the sports business. The people at the top in sports organizations are people who took a big gamble and decided to devote their careers in the most unstable profession in the US today. There is a reason why GM's and scouts aren't graduates of Top 50 universities (and believe me there are plenty of people in the well-educated population who have an eye for talent). They aren't because most educated people aren't willing to take the risk of a likely deadend, risky, and low paying career in hopes that it might pay out.

I have no doubt in my mind that atleast 10 members on this board if provided with the resources, could do a better of drafting than some GM's in the NFL today. If you were to take a Webzone consensus of the player to draft at each spot in the draft over the past 10 years we would be an above average NFL franchise.

Yes not everyone on this board knows what they're talking about, and yes many are wrong more often than not. With that said, well paid and well respected GM's miss just as often. Scouting is not a science, there are so many unknowns and many times the "gut" of the draft gurus on this board has been more right than the "brains" of respected GM's.
Originally posted by matt49er:
Just like every year I sit around, categorize the positions of need, narrow down the players I'd like to see wearing 49er colors next year and since the Baalke era scratch my head on draft day and say to myself wtf? Who? Well this year guys and gals, I'm promising myself that I'm just going to sit back, cheer whomever the organization chooses to pick and trusting it.

Many of us are down on A.J. Jenkins, I for one think everyone that is trashing him now will be in the same position everyone that trashed the LMJ pick were in when he exploded onto the scene when Hunter went down and he got some PT. Sure I think we need a DT, CB, WR and some DL/OLB depth like everyone else, not to mention a K at some point in the draft.

The question I have for everyone here is, will you be pissed when nothing you think should happen actually happens and the team drafts someone or a certain position you do not like?
Not at all!! At least not me. Last year I thought we'd go WR in the first (though many, if not most here wanted a TE - Cody Fleener - in the 1st), thought I didn't expect A.J. I had him as a early to mid 2nd orund selection. Plus I thought we'd get a real bruiser RB, so LMJ was a surprise to me but it made sense. The Aldon Smith pick totally blind-sided me. I was for sure we'd get a CB (I wanted Patrick Peterson). I thought CB was the bigger problem than pass rush. But I wasn't pissed. I understood the picks and why JH & Co. picked them.

Haven't posted my mock yet (waiting to see the combine) but I'm sure I'll shocked a little this year as well. But honestly, I don't expect much shock this draft, at least not by position. Unlike previous drafts, we're not drafting for first season starters this time. We need talented depth at key positions, namely on the D-line. The only surprise I envision is in the deals we'll make, and nobody can predict that, not even the GM. But with 14 picks, and 15 with a possible Smith trade, we all can bet there will be deals.

Either way, in JH I trust.
Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
Originally posted by mayo49:
We need to go for quality not quanity in this draft. Package pics and move up for players you like in each round.

I agree with you on this but we need to strike a balance. I think a good strategy would be to take a look at the upcoming free agents in '14 and '15 and draft according to that. There is no way we should stay with 14 picks. I'd like to see us move back into the 2nd with out 31st pick and get another pick or two for next year and then move some of the lower picks to help us bump up. I'd be all for more 2nd-5th round picks.

I don't get your insistence of moving out of the first round this year. This draft is not as top heavy IMO and there should be plenty of talented players available at #31. I agree with Mayo that the Niners have all the ammunition they need to move up to get who they want this year (Dion Jordan, anyone?). If they can't make a deal to move up, standing pat at #31 isn't going to be the worst thing in the world either. Baalke has also shown that he will trade back for future picks if they don't like who's available when they are on the clock. That's why the Niners have all these picks in the first place.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
I can never tell what Baalke is thinking from Aldon Smith to AJ Jenkins last year but again that is why he is Great at evaluating talent. In Harbaalke We Must Trust!


Agree
I do what most everybody else does and have the guys I think we should draft at certain picks. Then we make the pick and I scratch my head and think WTF at least half the time. After seeing some of the results, I now can't wait to be surprised even though I still watch tons of college FB an can't wait for the combine every year.
I've learned to embrace whatever happens and can't wait for each season to begin so I can see how my picks vs the team's picks work out. Makes it fun in a different way.
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