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Senior Bowl Practices on NFL Network

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
After Day 3, here is my All Senior Bowl Team, based on performances this week:

QB- Incomplete; NFL Coverage has been incredibly poor in showing QBs throwing the ball. Impossible to make any assessment.
RB- Stepfan Taylor- best bigger back; Jonathan Franklin- best smaller back. Franklin's pass protection this week was stunning to me. Absolutely remarkable.
WR- Tough call with a deep group- Quintin Patton and Markus Wheaton. King, Dobson, Goodwin also looked great.
TE- Vance McDonald- great athleticism. Will be a major riser.
OT- Easy call. Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson head and shoulders better.
G- Larry Warford. Sloppy waistline, but terrific form and power. David Quessenberry- better earlier in the week, but superb blocking at the second level.
C- Brian Schwenke- Dominated one on ones. Held up real well.

DE- Datone Jones- big, quick, powerful. A real force.
DE- Alex Okafor- the only person to consistently challenge Fisher. Ran over most other OT. Stud ready to play right now.
DT- Brandon Williams- better as the week progressed. In a fairly week group, he gets a slight nod. One note of caution...Williams did nearly all of his damage on Brian Winters, but was not nearly as dominant with other guards. For some reason, these two continued to be matched up.
DT- Kawann Short- took a big step back on Wednesday, but was dominant on Monday and Tuesday.
LB- largely ignored by coverage on TV- Reddick and Greene were the best of the lot. We will play nickel here and select three CBs.
CB- Desmond Trufant showed confidence, toughness, great footwork. He is the real deal.
CB- Jordan Poyer was the best pure cover corner with the best feet. So quick in and out of breaks. Not tough at all. Smallish.
CB-Leon McFadden looks a little bit like Janoris Jenkins on the field and was terrific in practice. Made some money this week.
SS- Jonathan Cyprien- I love this kid. A strong safety that shadowed some talented WR's this week. His footwork and ability change directions on coverage, big time.
FS- Phillip Thomas- great ball skills, smooth in coverage, and performed well in blitz drills.

I thought the CB/S/WR groups were by far the most dominant and deep this year. While the first round is going to be littered with DL and OL talent, the second round could see nearly half their round go just secondary and WR, and this is also where I think we will see the run on QBs. Call me skeptical, but I continue to think that this crop of QBs doesn't show enough for even a QB starved team at 8 or 14 to pull the trigger. Maybe on Geno Smith, but is Tyler Wilson or Mike Glennon even close to the 8th overall pick? To me, that is a big big reach.

Would love to have any of the guys in bold in the Scarlet and Gold next year........................
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Not everyone was impressed with Short. Todd McShay on his performance...

"We're most concerned with Purdue DT Kawann Short (6-3¼, 308). His upper-body power and short-area pop showed up in one-on-one drills, but he struggled during bag drills. Short was loose with his arms and didn't look like a guy who comes from a program that has produced numerous NFL defensive linemen.

He could also be seen taking plays off at least twice during team drills. On one play, it almost seemed as if he had a gentleman's agreement with Wagner, who steered Short inside easily. Effort was a question coming into the week for Short, and if you can't go through drills without being lazy that's a bad sign. This is the last place in the world you want to live down to that kind of reputation. When Short played hard he was effective and showed power, but the bad overshadowed the good."

Short is a 4-3 DT all the way, I wouldn't even remotely consider him in a 3-4 system, doesn't have the bulk for NT, doesn't have the quickness on the edge to be a defensive end. He's better off inside in a 4-3.
So it looks like our general concensus is that Datone Jones is the best senior 3/4 DE and would be a good addition to our team. Are there any other DEs that would be good picks for us?
  • cools
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Ive been a fan of D.Jones, UCLA all season, Im almost PO'd he 's getting all these kudos, cause I had us taking him in the 2nd round of my mock
Originally posted by cools:
Ive been a fan of D.Jones, UCLA all season, Im almost PO'd he 's getting all these kudos, cause I had us taking him in the 2nd round of my mock

We'll take Jones in the first.
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Daniel Jeremiah said Washington cornerback Desmond Trufant gave the performance of the week. He looks like a first-round draft pick now.

UCLA defensive linemen Datone Jones, Georgia Southern safety J.J. Wilcox and Missouri Southern defensive tackle Brandon Williams also stepped up.
Williams could fit as a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense.

Southeast Louisiana cornerback Robert Alford also shined.

Central Michigan tackle Eric Fisher seemed to solidify his status as a top-15 prospect, while Oklahoma's Lane Johnson also helped himself a lot.

Louisiana Tech wideout Quinton Patton and Oregon State wide receiver Markus Wheaton also made themselves some money.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000130767/article/senior-bowl-week-winners-and-losers
[ Edited by buck on Jan 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM ]
Originally posted by cools:
Ive been a fan of D.Jones, UCLA all season, Im almost PO'd he 's getting all these kudos, cause I had us taking him in the 2nd round of my mock

Really like what have seen and heard about Jones.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Really like what have seen and heard about Jones.

This.....I think he'd be more than worth the selection in the late 1st round, if he's even available there, once that hype train gets rolling he may move up into the Top 25 of the draft.
Originally posted by Cooper22:
If the Niners go for a 3-4 DE in the first round, do you think Datone Jones and Kawann Short could be targets? In your opinion can they play that position?

Sorry for the delayed response, I see Jones as a better 34 DE option, and Short as a better 43 Undertackle,
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Sorry for the delayed response, I see Jones as a better 34 DE option, and Short as a better 43 Undertackle,

This. Jones is a good fit at 3-4 DE, Short is not.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Cooper22:
If the Niners go for a 3-4 DE in the first round, do you think Datone Jones and Kawann Short could be targets? In your opinion can they play that position?

Sorry for the delayed response, I see Jones as a better 34 DE option, and Short as a better 43 Undertackle,

MD.. Floyd or Jones. Who would be the better choice for Niners. I think Floyd is a great fit personally.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
MD.. Floyd or Jones. Who would be the better choice for Niners. I think Floyd is a great fit personally.

I like both players a lot. I'd probably take Jones right now, but ask me again after the combine. I want to see how Floyd prepares and performs. I think we have already seen that Jones came ready for the Senior Bowl. Obviously, Floyd is physically ready right now to play the 34 DE, since he is a 300 pounder.

In the end, I'd be surprised if either is on the board at 31 or 32. .
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
MD.. Floyd or Jones. Who would be the better choice for Niners. I think Floyd is a great fit personally.

I like both players a lot. I'd probably take Jones right now, but ask me again after the combine. I want to see how Floyd prepares and performs. I think we have already seen that Jones came ready for the Senior Bowl. Obviously, Floyd is physically ready right now to play the 34 DE, since he is a 300 pounder.

In the end, I'd be surprised if either is on the board at 31 or 32. .

My hope was Jesse WIlliams or Floyd. I think the Niners need to get a stud DL whether its a NT or DE and should move up a few spots if necessary.
What's the scoop on Jamie Collins OLB out of Southern Miss? He was at the Senior Bowl but I haven't heard much news about his performance. Someone who has watched the senior bowl practices have any observations?

Thanks
BW Webb, the small school corner had a great week of practice as well. He proved he has the cover skills to play with big boys, and is a great punt returner as well. Could be a nice pickup for us in the 4th round as a back-up CB and punt return specialist.