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Better to Position Ourselves for the 2014 Draft?
Jan 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM
- midrdan
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Everything I hear about this year's draft is that it lacks both depth at key positions of need (for us) and lacks front line talent at key positions in general. Does any one have a read on how this year's draft compares to historical drafts overall talent-wise (2005?) and to next year's draft? If next year's draft looks more promising, we seem to be in a great position (last pick of each round) for trading down.
Jan 15, 2013 at 12:58 PM
- communist
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Originally posted by midrdan:So, u think there are too little options for the D-Line?
Everything I hear about this year's draft is that it lacks both depth at key positions of need (for us) and lacks front line talent at key positions in general. Does any one have a read on how this year's draft compares to historical drafts overall talent-wise (2005?) and to next year's draft? If next year's draft looks more promising, we seem to be in a great position (last pick of each round) for trading down.
Jan 15, 2013 at 1:02 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by midrdan:
Everything I hear about this year's draft is that it lacks both depth at key positions of need (for us) and lacks front line talent at key positions in general. Does any one have a read on how this year's draft compares to historical drafts overall talent-wise (2005?) and to next year's draft? If next year's draft looks more promising, we seem to be in a great position (last pick of each round) for trading down.
I think they need to load up this year, if they can acquire some extra picks in 2014, great, but I do think they need help at some key areas and can find that in this draft.
I am not thrilled about the selection of 3-4 DE prospects and that is one position I'd rather see them address in 2014 rather than just reach for someone this year.
Positions I would like to see addressed in this draft are:
1. NT
2. CB
3. OLB
4. WR
5. S
6. 3-4 DE
7. K
8. OT
Jan 15, 2013 at 1:04 PM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Seems like a pretty decent draft for our most critical needs (d-line, DB depth, backup pass rushers, etc.). Not the greatest draft for o-line depth, but there are some decent developmental guys.
Jan 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM
- 9erred
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Originally posted by midrdan:
Everything I hear about this year's draft is that it lacks both depth at key positions of need (for us) and lacks front line talent at key positions in general. Does any one have a read on how this year's draft compares to historical drafts overall talent-wise (2005?) and to next year's draft? If next year's draft looks more promising, we seem to be in a great position (last pick of each round) for trading down.
If you need a qb, you are right, also the OL has become a weak class because a few Juniors who should have declared stayed in school. I am for trading for picks in next years draft, but only with late round picks, so a 4th becomes a 3rd, etc.
I would rather draft at our pick in round 1, move up in round 2 if needed and select 2 more core players in round 3. The rest are long shot developmental players and a kicker.
Jan 15, 2013 at 4:29 PM
- LasVegasWally
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We need DLine help whether in the draft or FA. Justin will be coming off of surgury and a year older. Suppose Ray Mac goes down - I'm NOT confident with our Dline substitutions at this point.
We could also trade picks for another team's player.
I tink we can get a quality pick w/our 1-3 picks PLUS we'll have the ammo to move up.
We could also trade picks for another team's player.
I tink we can get a quality pick w/our 1-3 picks PLUS we'll have the ammo to move up.
Jan 15, 2013 at 6:17 PM
- PhillyNiner
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We need depth at a lot of spots and really few starters. This draft is full of players that may need to cook a little longer before they are done. Seems very suited to our needs to me.
Jan 15, 2013 at 7:50 PM
- LifelongNiner
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I disagree. We can pick up a good NT in round one and the talent is there. We can pick up some good developmental talent at DE in round 2. All we need is a guy that can come in and play about 20 snaps a game to give Ray McDonald and Justin Smith a breather. Those guys could possibly have a Frank Gore like rejuvenation by having a quality back-up where there isn't a steep drop off. If a good DE falls low enough I wouldn't even be against trading a 1st rounder next year to snag them, if it all it will cost is a 4th or 5th and a one next year. It's not a necessity, but just a possibility. We have the chance to pick up a pretty good nickel back in Tyrann Mathieu in the later rounds. And even though I like Kyle Williams and Mario Manningham, we need to be drafting at least two receivers as insurance. We cannot forget the need to draft a kicker who can be had around rounds 5-7. Finally there are some good TE prospects that we can pick up as well. I forget the number of picks we have in this upcoming draft. I believe we have at least 10. It puts us in a good position to draft potential/future starters at TE, NT, DE, and K. We have the possibility in picking up a potential future starter in the late rounds with Mathieu. If the above were to happen, that would make this a very good draft. All of the positions I named would be able to come in a contribute immediately (no red shirters lol). I say we make a move to solidify the talent on this now. It's the perfect kind of draft for a team like ours.
Jan 15, 2013 at 7:53 PM
- LifelongNiner
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On another note, it would be great to have a coach or a scout that has an eye for receivers in the same way that Jim Harbaugh has an eye for QBs. If we had such a guy, it would allow us to pick up a talented player as a later pick that would come in and surprise a lot of people.
Jan 15, 2013 at 8:24 PM
- Ninerjohn
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I think this draft sets up well for the Niners. Strong draft for DL DB, and good WR depth. That is where the Niners needs are and where they will focus on. Weak draft for OL, QB, and RB and those are not areas of need at all for 49ers.
I would be happy if they went:
1) NT or 3-4 DE
2) CB
3) WR
4) OLB
5) TE
6) S
I would be happy if they went:
1) NT or 3-4 DE
2) CB
3) WR
4) OLB
5) TE
6) S
Jan 15, 2013 at 8:42 PM
- gold49digger
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trade for a first next year then trade up for clowney
Jan 15, 2013 at 8:51 PM
- sfgiantdave
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I think this draft sets up well for the Niners. Strong draft for DL DB, and good WR depth. That is where the Niners needs are and where they will focus on. Weak draft for OL, QB, and RB and those are not areas of need at all for 49ers.
I would be happy if they went:
1) NT or 3-4 DE
2) CB
3) WR
4) OLB
5) TE
6) S
Sounds good but I would also add field goal kicker to the list. Between rounds 5-7 I would like to see the Niners draft a couple of them and have them compete for the starting job.
Jan 16, 2013 at 11:01 AM
- midrdan
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Originally posted by communist:
So, u think there are too little options for the D-Line?
I seriously don't know. We are talking about finding a suitable replacement for Justin Smith. Is there a player that would project to be 80% the player Smith is at the back end of the first round that could take 20% of Smith's reps next year? Is this year's D-Line crop deep enough to find a guy like Justin Tuck in the 4th? Or do we handle many of our positions of need in FA (like this year) and move down with our first rounder to acquire a pick next year?