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14 draft picks in the 2013 Draft

BTW....peeps are talking about them trading up with all those picks which is definitely a possibility, but they could also do what they did last year and trade out of this years draft on a few of those picks....so trade a 3rd round pick for a 2nd round pick the following year. Thats what the Pats have been doing for years.
Damn we got alot of ammo to move up, if we have to.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Who did we lose that is worthy of receiving a 3rd rd pick as compensation?

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN RT @realjeffsimmons Who did they lose to warrant 3rd round compensation? > Only FA added was Manningham. Snyder & Morgan signed big deals.

Costanzo will count for us, since he signed a 2 yr deal.

What round do you think we get for him?

7th for Costanzo
7th for Morgan
3rd for Snyder

I can see maybe 5 or 6 guys making the team. We should package some late round picks and get another 3rd, that way we would have 5 or 6 in the first 3 rounds.

The way I see it is our 1st-3rd round guys SHOULD make the team. 4th rd could be a asset to trade up. If we get lucky, we could find a gem late like Bruce Miller in 2011.

Remember if we get 3 comp picks, we must use them, not tradeable. I expect no more than 7 picks to be made by us. I can see us, if not trading up in rd 1, trading the Carolina 3rd for a 2014 2nd, which would be awesome for more picks.

We need depth at DL, NT and DE are key, pass rushing OLB, maybe another WR, RB, TE, S and CB. (I would expect of those 5, we take 3 of them, TE, S and CB most likely). Then backup OT, maybe via free agency.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Who did we lose that is worthy of receiving a 3rd rd pick as compensation?

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN RT @realjeffsimmons Who did they lose to warrant 3rd round compensation? > Only FA added was Manningham. Snyder & Morgan signed big deals.

Costanzo will count for us, since he signed a 2 yr deal.

What round do you think we get for him?

7th for Costanzo
7th for Morgan
3rd for Snyder

I can see maybe 5 or 6 guys making the team. We should package some late round picks and get another 3rd, that way we would have 5 or 6 in the first 3 rounds.

The way I see it is our 1st-3rd round guys SHOULD make the team. 4th rd could be a asset to trade up. If we get lucky, we could find a gem late like Bruce Miller in 2011.

Remember if we get 3 comp picks, we must use them, not tradeable. I expect no more than 7 picks to be made by us. I can see us, if not trading up in rd 1, trading the Carolina 3rd for a 2014 2nd, which would be awesome for more picks.

We need depth at DL, NT and DE are key, pass rushing OLB, maybe another WR, RB, TE, S and CB. (I would expect of those 5, we take 3 of them, TE, S and CB most likely). Then backup OT, maybe via free agency.

Ya...was just saying same thing as your second paragraph.
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Originally posted by Marvin49:
BTW....peeps are talking about them trading up with all those picks which is definitely a possibility, but they could also do what they did last year and trade out of this years draft on a few of those picks....so trade a 3rd round pick for a 2nd round pick the following year. Thats what the Pats have been doing for years.

Right. I would keep the 1st 4 picks in the 1st 3 rounds and try and trade for 2 3rd's in the next draft. MM also said if they trade Alex, it will be for a pick in the next draft. Keep the ball rolling and keep the picks coming. We can do D line, Secondary, TE, and WR in this draft, maybe OL also.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Ya...was just saying same thing as your second paragraph.

Ya beat me to it. But yeah say our Panthers 3rd for a 2014 2nd, and a 5th in 2013 would be worth it.
I just hope the Niners do better in this draft then they did last year. Hoping for a draft like the 2011 class! I think this has to be a draft totally focused on the defensive side of the ball in the first 3 rounds with DE, NT, OLB, and CB as the priorities. ( assuming we resign Goldston). A great Niners draft can set this team up for quite awhile.
It was Morgan that got the big contract and is the 3rd rnd comp.
Snyder and Manningham cancel each other out.
One 7th is LB Blake Costanzo.
We also lost S Reggie Smith, OG Chilo Rachal, and S Madieu Williams. One of them must be the other 7th.
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Who did we lose that is worthy of receiving a 3rd rd pick as compensation?

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN RT @realjeffsimmons Who did they lose to warrant 3rd round compensation? > Only FA added was Manningham. Snyder & Morgan signed big deals.

Costanzo will count for us, since he signed a 2 yr deal.

What round do you think we get for him?

7th for Costanzo
7th for Morgan
3rd for Snyder

IMO:
3rd for Morgan (big contract)
3rd for Snyder (big contract)
Subtract 3rd for signing Manningham
7th for Costanzo
7th for Rachal
Moss and Jacobs don't count against us, since Moss didn't play last year and Jacobs was released.

edit: IIRC, RSmith and MWilliams signed one-year deals, so we don't get anything for them. I could be wrong on that one.
[ Edited by WRATHman44 on Dec 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM ]
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Why a 3rd?

Size of new contract?
Draft two prospects @ every position of need and hope to find real "PLAYERS"!!!
[ Edited by NYCNINER on Dec 5, 2012 at 1:56 PM ]
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by nickbradley:
Why a 3rd?

Size of new contract?

Yup, I think that's the biggest factor. Playing time, production, and awards supposedly factor in, too, but the league refuses to release the formula.

edit: Goodell probably keeps it a secret so he has another nefarious way to stick it to the Saints.
[ Edited by WRATHman44 on Dec 5, 2012 at 1:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I just hope the Niners do better in this draft then they did last year. Hoping for a draft like the 2011 class! I think this has to be a draft totally focused on the defensive side of the ball in the first 3 rounds with DE, NT, OLB, and CB as the priorities. ( assuming we resign Goldston). A great Niners draft can set this team up for quite awhile.

...and here we go again.

Sigh.

There is nothing wrong with the 2012 draft class.

Jenkins and James are about to get some playing time. They were drafted for depth (good thing too since we lost Williams and Hunter for the season, may be missing Manningham for a bit, Ginn blows as a WR, and Jacobs doesn't have the ability to stretch a defense in the run game).

Looney was very likely never going to see the field because he was drafted as low as he was because he was hurt. That was always a pick for the future (just like Jenkins and James were IMO).

Want proof that the 49ers were looking at the future with all these picks? How about all the trades they made to HAVE all of the picks they have now. I'd expect more of the same. I see the Niners looking at positions like DT/DE, Maybe TE (Ertz looks nice), you can never get enough guys who are 6'3", 6'4", 230-250 lbs and can run (OLBs, Special Teams), and maybe even a developmental QB if Alex is gone.

Jenkins: Moss could be gone next year. Ginn WILL be gone next year.
James: Gore's having good year, but his time is running out. Hunter and James may be the rotation of the future. Jacobs won't be back.
Looney: Davis most likely gone next year.

People REALLY need to stop looking through the lens of THIS YEAR.

Maybe, just maybe, we should trust the guy who has drafted Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati, Navorro Bowman, Kyle WIlliams (not a bad late pick), Aldon Smith, Colin Kaepernick (I remember al the peeps who said something to the effect of "Come on, he can't beat out Alex Smith!?! BUST!!!"), Chris Culliver, Kendall Hunter, and Bruce Miller in his FIRST 2 DRAFTS as a GM.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Dec 5, 2012 at 1:49 PM ]
Definitely won't mind us trading for a pick a round higher the next year since we have so many. Wouldn't mind bundling and moving up although I'd prefer to keep the 1, 2, 3 and 3. Other than that fine with using whatever it takes to collect some more 4s and 5s if teams are willing to bite. Still, wouldn't mind if we used most of them and let the best players make the roster. Despite how good we are we still have a lot of spots that we will need depth. 2nd or 3rd QB (if alex goes), 4th RB upgrade over Dixon/Jacobs who can play ST, OLB, DE, NT?, ILB if Gooden and or Grant go (whilhoite might fill one spot), FS and or SS, CB, 2nd and or 3rd TE, Tackle, C/G depth, WR, KR/PR, Kicker. Really no spot out there that couldn't use upgrading of depth or depth in general. Maybe even a starter.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Dec 5, 2012 at 1:45 PM ]
Originally posted by susweel:
We should draft a kicker for sure.

Strongly agree