Originally posted by bigwads:
I have no idea why people say that 280 pounders make good 3-4 DE's...they don't. They have to be at least 300 lbs., (which I actually believe Justin Smith is in reality or he's just a freak) This is why most 3-4 teams have huge DE's that are just as big as the NG's or close to them.
JJ Watt goes about 290-295, obviously he's garbage, as is Justin Smith in the same range. Ray McDonald is also crap, he's around 290. Antonio Smith of the Texas? He's around 285.....obviously useless as well.
Your problem is you aren't differentiating between 3-4 DE's, some teams like the Steelers want their DE's to simply be big, fat guys who allow the OLB's to get loose, teams like Houston and the 49ers look for an active pass rush from their DE's, constant penetration and have guys that require double-teams as a result. Datone Jones, at his height, needs about another 10 pounds and since the 49ers aren't bringing in any DE to be an immediate starter, I'm more than confident that he can pick up 10 pounds in a pro strength training program within a year. In the 49ers system, the DE doesn't need to be 300+ pounds, not sure where you got that misconception but reality doesn't match up with it whatsoever.
Hunt is a much better 3-4 prospect because he said he has been up to 300 at times and only lost weight because his coaches asked him to. The perfect comparison for Hunt is Campbell on Arizona....a great player.
The logical inconsistency is mind-boggling here. Jones is bad because he's 280, but Hunt, who weighs less while being a lot taller is somehow kosher because he "said" he weighed 300 at one point? Are you serious with this? Calais Campbell goes between 305-310.....and was far more polished as a prospect coming out of college.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Mar 3, 2013 at 10:42 AM ]