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Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Irvin would be a 2nd round pick, not a 1st. And he would stay in rotation with Brooks and Smith. Also Parys has a hefty contract for a backup...if Irvin can replace him its icing on the cake.
Childs might be the 4th or 5th but is he ready to go and stay healthy without any long term effects?
The talk is him sneaking into the 1st so for him to be around 61 would be a disappointment in my book and no matter what round if we take a OLB before round 4 and it isn't strictly BPA I would be incredibly surprised. Even if we cut Haralson in favor of Irvin they have completely different skill sets and we would lose a stout run defender and replace him with a speed rusher? That makes no sense to me as Aldon is still transition to run defending and we'd be weakening our team by making such a swap. Brooks played 95% of our snaps last season and Aldon and Haralson pretty much split their share, were would Irvins playing would come from? Using a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or even a 4th round pick on player in line to see 5% to (being generous) 25% of the snaps for next several years would be an incredible waste of pick. I already agreed Brooks cut get axed or traded without much issue but going off the idea that he continues to play well Irvin would finish out his rookie deal having played barely 1000 snaps.
He wont go in the first because he is still raw. Although the same can be said for other guys its his personal issues that could drop him. At 61 he could easily be BPA on the board, although a bit of a luxury pick he would be an asset. Granted Parys offers help in the run game he offers little in rushing the passer. If Aldon continues to improve which he should, he will take lots of snaps away from Parys. If we can limit Irvin to situational plays and bring him on slowly he could be a good 3rd option at OLB. The problem I see is that if we get an injury to either Brooks or Smith we take a major step back with Parys. We have been able to contain the run when McDonald, ICE, and Willis have gone out, no reason why we should have a major drop off if we lost Parys.
Again the ability to rotate players and keep guys fresh will be a big reason why we stay healthy and competitive down the stretch. If they can get 10lbs of muscle on Irvin, teach him better technique, and raise his football IQ his potential would go through the roof. Irvin on a 4 year deal worth $2-3 mill is better then having Parys on the last 2 years of his deal eating $5 mill. Even if we kept both for 2012, in 2013 we could drop Parys slide Irvin into the 3rd spot and draft a kid very low to be a project with upside.
Remember we brought him in....decent chance we take the kid if he is there.
Originally posted by kem99:
Just kind of curious...you don't think your"what you want to happen" and "you think will happen" will be the same at any point? Why? So you would disagree with every pick you think Balked will make?
Originally posted by kem99:
Just kind of curious...you don't think your"what you want to happen" and "you think will happen" will be the same at any point? Why? So you would disagree with every pick you think Balked will make?
Originally posted by stonecold590:
Trumane johnson has never played S. Not sure.how its going to trans for him.
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by kem99:
Just kind of curious...you don't think your"what you want to happen" and "you think will happen" will be the same at any point? Why? So you would disagree with every pick you think Balked will make?
Um, well if you look at his pics - it simply starts with the first round and then becomes a ripple effect. If he wants a guard in round 1, but thinks the 49ers will take Hill instead - then the rest of the draft will be different for both scenarios. Like, if he wants Silatolu in the first, then why would he "want" another guard in round 2? If he "thinks" they will actually take Hill, then why would he think they would take Childs in round 4?
explained it to near perfection.
Originally posted by sfout:Originally posted by stonecold590:Trumane johnson has never played S. Not sure.how its going to trans for him.
He may have never played it but it doesn't mean he isn't athletic enough or have a high enough football IQ to do it. Everyone has chimed in that he'll get looks at both Safety and Corner, depending on the team that takes him. Besides that is just icing on the cake as I mentioned we will be able to evaluate him and move him around because we do not need an immediate contributor, just depth.
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Good job on this mock! This is the best mock I've see on this board
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:
Man, what a great post!
Of your selections, I would think:
Rd1: A - Amini Silatolu OG Midwestern State
Rd2: A - Trumaine Johnson DB Montana
Rd3: B - Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati, But I'd expect him to be gone here.
Rd4: A - Greg Childs WR Arkansas. Although my preference would be Streeter from Miami.
Rd5: A - David Molk C Michigan
Rd6: A - Jeremy Jones DB Wayne State
Rd7: A - LaVon Brazill WR Ohio. But actually I'd prefer to take a flyer on Burfict, LB from ASU here. Ooops, he tested positive for drugs. Never mind, then!
Originally posted by stonecold590:
don't get me wrong I would love johnson on the niners. I have seen every game that he has played over the last 4 years the kid is a stud
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Good job on this mock! This is the best mock I've see on this board
Originally posted by Thorhawk:
Originally posted by DRnSFw:
Good job on this mock! This is the best mock I've see on this board
the best mock draft on the zone ever
