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MadDog's Big 253 Board- April 18th Edition

Greetings to All! Eight days and counting, and the ultimate day of male drama will arrive, the NFL draft. Should be a blast. Here is my second to last Big 253 board, covering the whole draft. I feel like Frodo with the ring.

Copying from OTC disclaimers points 1-3 below:
1) This is NOT a ranking

2) This is NOT a seven round mock. A mock outside of the first round is straight-up impossible because of the sheer volume of trades that occur. For fun, just check out the number of teams that were not selecting in their pre-ordained spot in any draft. It is spectacular.

3) This board projects the general slot area that I believe these players will fall. It may not be the exact spot, but the idea is to pinpoint the players value and likelihood of being selected in a general area or range.

The first round is mocked out with trades mixed in. The Niners selections are in bold, and cherry picked from the general area I believe a player will be selected.

2012 NFL Draft Big Board
Pick Player School Position
1 Andrew Luck Stanford QB
2 Robert Griffin Baylor QB
3 Matt Kalil USC OT
4 Trent Richardson Alabama RB
5 Morris Claiborne LSU CB
6 Justin Blackmon Oklahoma State WR
7 Ryan Tannehill Texas A&M QB
8 Michael Floyd Notre Dame WR
9 Fletcher Cox Mississippi St DT
10 Cordy Glenn Georgia OT/OG
11 Melvin Ingram South Carolina DE/OLB
12 Michael Brockers LSU DT
13 David DeCastro Stanford G
14 Dontari Poe Memphis DT
15 Luke Kuechly Boston College LB
16 Stephon Gilmore South Carolina CB
17 Quinton Coples North Carolina DE
18 Whitney Mercilus Illinois DE/OLB
19 Peter Konz Wisconsin C
20 Dre Kirkpatrick Alabama CB
21 Mark Barron Alabama S
22 Kendall Wright Baylor WR
23 Riley Reiff Iowa OT
24 Bobbie Massey Mississippi OT
25 Coby Fleener Stanford TE
26 Stephen Hill Georgia Tech WR
27 Andre Branch Clemson DE/OLB
28 Shea McClellin Boise St LB
29 Dont'a Hightower Alabama LB
30 Janoris Jenkins North Alabama CB
31 David Wilson Virginia Tech RB
32 Amini Silatolu Midwestern St G
33 Doug Martin Boise St RB
34 Jonathan Martin Stanford OT
35 Reuben Randle LSU WR
36 Chandler Jones Syracuse DE
37 Brandon Weeden Oklahoma State QB
38 Courtney Upshaw Alabama DE/OLB
39 Mike Adams Ohio State OT
40 Nick Perry USC DE/OLB
41 Jerel Worthy Michigan St DT
42 Devon Still Penn State DT
43 Kendall Reyes Connecticut DT
44 Kevin Zeitler Wisconsin G
45 Harrison Smith Notre Dame S
46 Bobby Wagner Utah St LB
47 Brian Quick Appalachian St WR
48 Josh Robinson Central Florida CB
49 Vinny Curry Marshall DE/OLB
50 Mohamed Sanu Rutgers WR
51 Brandon Thompson Clemson DT
52 Jamell Fleming Oklahoma CB
53 Derek Wolfe Cincinnati DE/DT
54 Lamar Miller Miami RB
55 Zach Brown North Carolina LB
56 Brandon Boykin Georgia CB
57 Kelechi Osemele Iowa St G
58 Alshon Jeffery South Carolina WR
59 Ronnell Lewis Oklahoma LB
60 Mychal Kendricks Cal LB
61 Brandon Brooks Ohio G
62 AJ Jenkins Illinois WR
63 Jayron Hosley Virginia Tech CB
64 Dwayne Allen Clemson TE
65 Lavonte David Nebraska LB
66 Bruce Irvin West Virginia DE/OLB
67 Brock Osweiler Arizona St QB
68 Cam Johnson Virginia DE/OLB
69 Alameda Ta'Amu Washington DT
70 Mitchell Schwartz Cal OT
71 Jared Crick Nebraska DE/DT
72 Trumaine Johnson Montana CB
73 LaMichael James Oregon RB
74 Chris Givens Wake Forest WR
75 Ladarius Green Louisiana-Lafayette TE
76 Jeff Allen Illinois G/OT
77 Alfonzo Dennard Nebraska CB
78 Donald Stephenson Oklahoma OT
79 Chris Polk Washington RB
80 Casey Heyward Vanderbilt CB
81 Antonio Allen South Carolina S
82 Sean Spence Miami LB
83 Chris Rainey Florida RB
84 George Iloka Boise St S
85 Ben Jones Georgia C
86 Michael Egnew Missouri TE
87 Dwight Bill Bentley Louisiana-Lafayette CB
88 Zebrie Sanders Florida State OT
89 Tyrone Crawford Boise St DE
90 Mike Martin Michigan DT
91 Keenan Robinson Texas LB
92 Rishard Matthews Nevada WR
93 James Brown Troy G
94 Kirk Cousins Michigan St QB
95 Demario Davis Arkansas St DE/OLB
96 Marvin Jones California WR
97 Terrell Manning NC State LB
98 Brandon Washington Miami G
99 Leonard Johnson Iowa St CB
100 Philip Blake Baylor C/G
101 Trenton Robinson Michigan St S
102 Jarius Wright Arkansas WR
103 Nigel Bradham Florida State LB
104 Isaiah Pead Cincinnati RB
105 T.Y. Hilton Florida International WR
106 Brandon Hardin Oregon St CB/S
107 Orson Charles Georgia TE
108 Robert Turbin Utah St RB
109 Ryan Lindley San Diego St QB
110 Billy Winn Boise St DE/DT
111 Josh Chapman Alabama DT
112 Ryan Broyles Oklahoma WR
113 Josh Kaddu Oregon LB
114 Keshawn Martin Michigan St WR
115 Hebron Fangupo BYU DT
116 Tom Compton South Dakota OT
117 Brandon Mosley Auburn OT
118 Jake Baquette Arkansas DE/OLB
119 Shaun Prater Iowa CB
120 Joe Adams Arkansas WR
121 Tommy Streeter Miami WR
122 Markelle Martin Oklahoma State S
123 Tony Bergstrom Utah G/T
124 James Hanna Oklahoma TE
125 Kheeston Randle Texas DT
126 Greg Childs Arkansas WR
127 Ronnie Hillman San Diego St RB
128 Cyrus Gray Texas A&M RB
129 Asa Jackson Cal-Poly CB
130 Bernard Pierce Temple RB
131 Matt McCants Alabama-Birmingham OT
132 Vick Ballard Mississippi St RB
133 Josh Norman Coastal Carolina CB
134 DaJohn Harris USC DT
135 Kyle Wilber Wake Forest LB
136 Devon Wylie Fresno State WR
137 Senio Kelemete Washington G
138 Miles Burris San Diego St LB
139 Nick Foles Arizona QB
140 Coryell Judie Texas A&M CB
141 Malik Jackson Tennessee DE
142 Jonathan Massaquoi Troy LB
143 Trevor Guyton Cal DE
144 TJ Graham NC State WR
145 Tim Fugger Vanderbilt OLB
146 Tank Carder TCU LB
147 Justin Bethel Presbyterian CB/S
148 Juron Criner Arizona WR
149 Chase Ford Miami TE
150 Adam Gettis Iowa G
151 Ryan Steed Furman CB
152 Christian Thompson South Carolina St S
153 Coty Sensabaugh Clemson CB
154 Junior Hemingway Michigan WR
155 David Molk Michigan C
156 James Michael-Johnson Nevada LB
157 Brandon Taylor LSU S
158 Devier Posey Ohio St WR
159 Darius Fleming Notre Dame LB
160 Julian Miller West Virginia DE
161 Marcus Forston Miami DT
162 James Carmon Mississippi St OT
163 Ron Brooks LSU CB
164 Akiem Hicks Regina DT
165 Adrien Robinson Cincinnati TE
166 Najee Goode West Virginia LB
167 Taylor Thompson SMU TE
168 Kelcie McCray Arkansas St S
169 Nick Toon Wisconsin WR
170 Michael Smith Utah St RB
171 DeAngelo Peterson LSU TE
172 Marvin McNutt Iowa WR
173 Rishaw Johnson California-PA G
174 BJ Coleman Tennessee-Chattanooga QB
175 Omar Bolden Arizona St CB
176 Chris Anzevino Kent State C
177 Claude Davis South Florida DE
178 Trevin Wade Arizona CB
179 Edwin Baker Michigan St RB
180 Joe Looney Wake Forest G
181 Audie Cole NC State LB
182 Nate Potter Boise St OT
183 Terrance Frederick Texas A&M CB
184 Ryan Miller Colorado G
185 Sean Richardson Vanderbilt S
186 Chase Minnifield Virginia CB
187 Lucas Nix Pittsburgh G
188 Andrew Datko Florida St OT
189 Duke Ihenacho San Jose St S
190 Brett Roy Nevada DT
191 Russell Wilson Wisconsin QB
192 Jaye Howard Florida DT
193 Daryl Richardson Abilene Christian RB
194 Tauren Poole Tennessee RB
195 Travis Lewis Oklahoma LB
196 Aaron Henry Wisconsin S
197 Derrius Brooks Western Kentucky CB
198 Rhett Ellison USC FB
199 De'Quan Menzie Alabama S
200 Josh LeRibeus SMU G
201 Michael Brewster Ohio St C
202 Olivier Vernon Miami DE
203 Charles Mitchell Mississippi St S
204 Jeff Adams Columbia OT
205 Matt Reynolds BYU OT
206 Eric Page Toledo WR
207 Danny Coale Virginia Tech WR
208 Brandon Bolden Mississippi RB
209 Chris Greenwood Albion CB
210 Donnie Fletcher Boston College CB
211 Ronald Leary Memphis G
212 Jordan Bernstine Iowa S
213 Emmanuel Acho Texas LB
214 Jeremy Lane Northwestern St CB
215 Quentin Saulsberry Mississippi St C
216 Keith Tandy West Virginia CB
217 Kourtnei Brown Clemson DE/OLB
218 Ronnie Cameron Old Dominion DT
219 Tavon Wilson Illinois S
220 Steven Baker East Carolina OT
221 Nicolas Jean-Baptiste Baylor DT
222 Micah Pellerin Hampton CB
223 Lionel Smith Texas A&M CB
224 Vaughn Meatoga Hawaii DT
225 Chris Owusu Stanford WR
226 DJ Campbell Cal S
227 Corey White Samford CB
228 Ryan Davis Bethune-Cookman DE/OLB
229 Joe Martinek Rutgers FB
230 Evan Rodriguez Temple TE
231 Emil Igwenagu Massachusetts FB/TE
232 Josh Bush Wake Forest S
233 Desmond Wynn Rutgers G/OT
234 Jerry Franklin Arkansas LB
235 Neiko Thorpe Auburn S
236 Terrance Ganaway Baylor RB
237 Gino Gradkowski Delaware C
238 Markus Kuhn North Carolina St DT
239 Bryan Anger Cal P
240 Matt Broha Louisiana Tech LB/TE
241 Cody Pearcy Huntington WR
242 Ernest Owusu Cal DE
243 Jerron McMillian Maine S
244 Brian Stahovich San Diego St P
245 Tavaris Cadet Appalachian St RB
246 Chandler Harnish Northern Illinois QB
247 Kevin Koger Michigan TE
248 Jeremy Ebert Northwestern WR
249 Derek Carrier Beloit WR/TE
250 Justin Anderson Georgia OT
251 Dale Moss South Dakota St WR
252 Thomas Mayo Cal (Pennsylvania) WR
253 Alex Hoffman-Ellis Washington St LB
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:15 PM ]
I find it very, very interesting that you have Massie in the 1st -- I strongly, strongly considered moving him in, but after much debating with myself figured I'd wait a little while before making the final call. I was really curious as to where you'd place him, and of your thoughts on the matter.

This is my take: Measurables-wise and looking at their most recent track record, Massie by almost all accounts looks like the superior prospect to Adams, and to some teams, probably over Martin too. He's not as highly-touted by the media, but they don't know jack half the time.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:17 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I find it very, very interesting that you have Massie in the 1st -- I strongly, strongly considered moving him in, but after much debating with myself figured I'd wait a little while before making the final call. I was really curious as to where you'd place him, and of your thoughts on the matter.

This is my take: Measurables-wise and looking at their most recent track record, Massie by almost all accounts looks like the superior prospect to Adams, and to some teams, probably over Martin too. He's not as highly-touted by the media, but they don't know jack half the time.

I smell Pittsburgh all over him. Bigger upside than Martin and the overrated Adams. I also project a surprise Fleener going to Denver.
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:28 PM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I find it very, very interesting that you have Massie in the 1st -- I strongly, strongly considered moving him in, but after much debating with myself figured I'd wait a little while before making the final call. I was really curious as to where you'd place him, and of your thoughts on the matter.

This is my take: Measurables-wise and looking at their most recent track record, Massie by almost all accounts looks like the superior prospect to Adams, and to some teams, probably over Martin too. He's not as highly-touted by the media, but they don't know jack half the time.

I smell Pittsburgh all over him. Bigger upside than Martin and the overrated Adams. I also project a surprise Fleener going to Denver.

Massey should get drafted before Adams, but don't think it will happen because he's viewed as a RT only. Guy would definitely help the Steelers. Their o-line is a sieve right now. Fleener to Denver even after they picked up Tamme and Dreesen? That would give them 6 TE's on their roster.
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Massey should get drafted before Adams, but don't think it will happen because he's viewed as a RT only. Guy would definitely help the Steelers. Their o-line is a sieve right now. Fleener to Denver even after they picked up Tamme and Dreesen? That would give them 6 TE's on their roster.
Dreadful explanation. Should have stated into Denver's slot. Sorry. I see the Broncos trading down out of 25 because they will lose out on the top tier DT prospects (Cox, Poe, Brockers) and see Peter Konz off the board. Moving down to the second round makes a lot of sense to me, where they can pick up a Jerel Worthy or Devon Still for the proper value and accumulate even more picks (the team is loaded already).

Teams that might be very interested in Fleener are the Texans at 26, Niners at 30 and Giants at 32, so to ensure that selection a team would have to leapfrog.

Might as well list the other trades: Jags trade out of number seven to either the Hawks, Cards, or Eagles (who seem to like Cox); Jets to number 11 to select Ingram;
[ Edited by MadDog49er on Apr 18, 2012 at 9:05 PM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
Massey should get drafted before Adams, but don't think it will happen because he's viewed as a RT only. Guy would definitely help the Steelers. Their o-line is a sieve right now. Fleener to Denver even after they picked up Tamme and Dreesen? That would give them 6 TE's on their roster.
Dreadful explanation. Should have stated into Denver's slot. Sorry. I see the Broncos trading down out of 25 because they will lose out on the top tier DT prospects (Cox, Poe, Brockers) and see Peter Konz off the board. Moving down to the second round makes a lot of sense to me, where they can pick up a Jerel Worthy or Devon Still for the proper value and accumulate even more picks (the team is loaded already).

Teams that might be very interested in Fleener are the Texans at 26, Niners at 30 and Giants at 32, so to ensure that selection a team would have to leapfrog.

Might as well list the other trades: Jags trade out of number seven to either the Hawks, Cards, or Eagles (who seem to like Cox); Jets to number 11 to select Ingram;

That clears things up for me on Fleener.

Jags trading down makes sense for them. Would Floyd be the target for the Hawks at that point? Jets definitely need the pass rusher in Ingram.
MadDog, thanks for having the courage to draft Janoris Jenkins in the first. Definitely not a "Gold Helmet" player, but what a talent! If Harbaugh and the locker room can handle him, its a great selection!
Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
That clears things up for me on Fleener.

Jags trading down makes sense for them. Would Floyd be the target for the Hawks at that point? Jets definitely need the pass rusher in Ingram.

Don't think Floyd would be there, and to me, Kuechly fills a much bigger need. Plenty of WRs later on in draft, but only one stud MLB.
Originally posted by mebemused:
MadDog, thanks for having the courage to draft Janoris Jenkins in the first. Definitely not a "Gold Helmet" player, but what a talent! If Harbaugh and the locker room can handle him, its a great selection!

Talent is off the chart, and we've seen that the team has picked up some shady characters this offseason in an attempt to upgrade the roster. Jenkins is flat out great, but needs serious babysitting.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by mebemused:
MadDog, thanks for having the courage to draft Janoris Jenkins in the first. Definitely not a "Gold Helmet" player, but what a talent! If Harbaugh and the locker room can handle him, its a great selection!

Talent is off the chart, and we've seen that the team has picked up some shady characters this offseason in an attempt to upgrade the roster. Jenkins is flat out great, but needs serious babysitting.
But their shady characters all come on one year deals with little to no guaranty money. If I remember correctly all draft picks und Baalke have had pretty solid characters.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by mebemused:
MadDog, thanks for having the courage to draft Janoris Jenkins in the first. Definitely not a "Gold Helmet" player, but what a talent! If Harbaugh and the locker room can handle him, its a great selection!

Talent is off the chart, and we've seen that the team has picked up some shady characters this offseason in an attempt to upgrade the roster. Jenkins is flat out great, but needs serious babysitting.

Does he? It's mostly pot, right? Once he gets to the bay area, he'll be fi....oh wait. Maybe we should be careful. Realistically, I love Jenkins and he's hands down my #1 draft want. But how do you see the Bengals passing up on him twice?
[ Edited by RollinWith21n52 on Apr 18, 2012 at 10:50 PM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by mebemused:
MadDog, thanks for having the courage to draft Janoris Jenkins in the first. Definitely not a "Gold Helmet" player, but what a talent! If Harbaugh and the locker room can handle him, its a great selection!

Talent is off the chart, and we've seen that the team has picked up some shady characters this offseason in an attempt to upgrade the roster. Jenkins is flat out great, but needs serious babysitting.

did rw mcquarters ever recover from his muliple gun shot wounds? somehow talk of jenkins brought rw to mind
If Jenkins keeps his head on straight, he would be a heck of a good pick. There are not 29 players in this draft better than him IMO.
Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Does he? It's mostly pot, right? Once he gets to the bay area, he'll be fi....oh wait. Maybe we should be careful. Realistically, I love Jenkins and he's hands down my #1 draft want. But how do you see the Bengals passing up on him twice?

The Bengals need a lot of help, and corner is one area of need. I just think the risk at 17 and 21 might be a bit too much for them to swallow. Most analysts see him as a second rounder at this point due to character concerns, but it only takes one team to pull the lever.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
If Jenkins keeps his head on straight, he would be a heck of a good pick. There are not 29 players in this draft better than him IMO.

Agreed. He is the second corner on my board. Best technique of any corner in the draft
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