Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Yep. You are not wrong there my friend.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't one of New England's elite tight ends playing at 60% and was a non factor due to the injury?
But that fact proves another thing: had NE had better WR options they would not have had to rely on a hobbled TE and just might have fared a tad bit better against NY.
Conversely, If we had another threat at tight end, we would not have been limited by WRs that could not get open.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You know, I have been around football my whole life. Grew up playing it and football is how I make my living, not the NFL, I admit though. And I've been around a lot of men with a wealth of football knowledge. I've even had the opportunity a few times to kick around a little strategary with some of the smartest men in football. I'd be lying if I said I agreed with everything they said or vise versa. But I was never called closed minded because of it. Now I know this is a fan forum, and I'm sure there are a few true NFL guys lurking around here with inconspicuous screen names. But mostly we're fans with opinions and a little spare time to post them. True, there are a lot of intelligent men who believe – and rightly – that the passing game can succeed in a lot of different ways. But there are equally intelligent men who believe it would be abysmally naïve to think that after just a year or so of the TE resurgent that the NFL game itself is poised to demote the importance of the NFL WR. Yes, the rules of the NFL favors the offense (and shamefully I might add), which is precisely why NFL receivers have gotten much bigger, faster, and more importantly, much more physical at the line of scrimmage and short yardage situations. Today's WR's are yesterday's TE's. Now, the game of football is a game of evolution, but it has its constants no matter what level you play it on. And one of those constants is that if your TE(s) are your main offensive weapon in the passing game, either by design (NO) or lack of WR production (SF & NE), at some point you will be exposed. You, and others who want Fleener in the first, often mention Belichek, NE, and NO as proof that this TE takeover of the NFL passing game is underway. Correct me if I'm wrong but did not NE lose the SB? Did not NO get beat by us? Didn't we ourselves get beat by a team with better WR's? And, oh yeah, did not the same team that beat us and NE win the SB? I'm sorry, but I hope to God that our beloved 49ers aren't going to use 2011 playoff losers as models of success for 2012. Bottom line, this team needs WR's, and not a just-good-enough guys either – if no one has noticed we have enough of those on our roster as it is. And I'm getting damned tired of getting called closed mined simply because there's a different viewpoint. Its juvenile.
Submitting your resume doesn't make you right. Just because people don't toot their own horn doesn't mean they don't know what they are talking about. I'm pretty comfortable w/my base of football knowledge, experience, and contemporaries. Mike Singletary could state that he was a star player and head coach at the highest level, and that he has shared ideas with the best minds in football. That doesn't make anything he said or implemented on the offensive side of the field logical or effective.
So we should model ourselves after the Giants because they happened to win this year? I think this is a weak argument. This would require us to give up on the running game, find an elite QB and make him carry every drive of every game, win or lose, and get incredibly lucky with official rulings and loose ball bounces. None of those propositions are ever certainties, or even high proababilities. I also believe that the Giants would jump at the chance to have Vernon or draft Fleener, as their redzone offense often runs through a lesser TE.
Those playoff losers have also won Superbowls lately, their average season has been better than that of NY, and both of their offenses are MUCH more impressive than the Giants'.
NE lost because their best receiving threat was hurt. That would happen to most offenses. Do you honestly think we would have progressed in the playoffs w/out Vernon? Do you think the giants would have beat us w/out Cruz killing Rogers in the first half?
As far as NO, the pass rush was the main story, and we were uniquely capable of covering Graham because we have the most athletic LB in the world. He was still toasted for to huge plays in the game.
[ Edited by WRATHman44 on Mar 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM ]