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Finding the next Victor Cruz: Three Potential UDFA WR Gems

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Bump. Pro Day dates for them:

Cooper - 3/9/12
Saffold - 3/16/12
Akpla - 3/19/12

Will re-bump thread when these days arrive.
Where do you find your pro dates at OTC?
Akpla looks really good, but there is no way he's 6'0 is there? Looks REALLY short. Not that that's a bad thing because he looks like he can stretch the field.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Bump. Pro Day dates for them:

Cooper - 3/9/12
Saffold - 3/16/12
Akpla - 3/19/12

Will re-bump thread when these days arrive.
Where do you find your pro dates at OTC?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d826dde13/article/2012-pro-days-schedule

Quote:
Pro days by date:

March 1: Missouri
March 2: Cincinnati
March 5: Alabama-Birmingham, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, McNeese State
March 6: Alabama A&M, Arkansas, Auburn, California Lutheran, Clark, Eastern Kentucky, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Liberty, Rhode Island, Sacramento State, Tarleton State, UCLA, Valdosta State
March 7: Alabama, California-Davis, Colgate, Eastern Washington, Fordham, Fort Valley, Kent State, Kentucky, Louisville, Northern Colorado, Southern California, Texas A&M, UTEP, Wisconsin
March 8: Alabama State, Buffalo, Clemson, Colorado, Miami (Fla.), Mississippi State, Nebraska, North Alabama, Northwestern, Ohio, Syracuse, Texas Tech, Washington, West Texas, Western Kentucky, Wofford, Wyoming, Youngstown State
March 9: Florida International, Furman, Mississippi, Montana, Northern Illinois, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Presbyterian, Purdue, TCU, Troy, Washington State
March 12: Air Force, Arkansas-Monticello, Central Michigan, Central Washington, Pittsburgh, Tulsa
March 13: Ball State, California (Pa.), Florida, Kansas State, Marshall, North Texas, Slippery Rock, Toledo, Western Michigan
March 14: Bowling Green, California, Central Arkansas, Central Oklahoma, Eastern Michigan, Florida State, Grambling, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisiana-Monroe, Maryland, Michigan State, Mount Union, Oklahoma, Penn State, Portland State, Tennessee Tech
March 15: Delaware State, Louisiana Tech, Michigan, UNLV, Nicholls State, Oregon, Southern Illinois, Townson, Tusculum, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wayne State (Mich.), William & Mary
March 16: Arizona State, James Madison, Missouri State, Oregon State, Richmond, Temple, Tennessee, West Virginia
March 19: Appalachian State, Arizona, Florida Atlantic, Iowa, LSU, Montana State, Rice, Southern, Wake Forest
March 20: Brown, Idaho, Iowa State, Louisiana-Lafayette, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Carolina A&T, South Florida, Texas
March 21: Baylor, Boston College, Houston, N.C. State, North Dakota State, Rutgers, San Diego State, San Jose State, Tulane, Western Kentucky
March 22: East Carolina, Maine, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Stanford, Tennessee-Chattanooga
March 23: Cornell, Jackson State, Missouri Western, N.C. Central, Southern Mississippi, Stonybrook, Vanderbilt
March 26: Indiana State
March 27: Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Stephen F. Austin, Washburn
March 28: Central Florida, Connecticut, Newberry, Northern Iowa, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Carolina State
March 29: Brigham Young, Georgia Southern
March 30: Bethune-Cookman, Dartmouth
April 3: Abilene Christian, Notre Dame
April 4: SMU
Elvis is my sleeper of the draft.

Dude is an absolute baller. He plants his feet and goes. Watch his sideline instincts. Extremely fast off the snap. Plays much faster than he clocks due to his burst. Probally not 6 foot but hes very good at going up and getting the football.

I expect to draft atleast 2 WR with only two WR currently signed through next year. I would love to send a flyer on this guy if we take one of the bigger guys in the earlier rounds.
Originally posted by 12b6demurrer:
Akpla looks really good, but there is no way he's 6'0 is there? Looks REALLY short. Not that that's a bad thing because he looks like he can stretch the field.

He doesn't look short to me. Would say 5-11 at the worst. Either way, I don't care what he measures in at because the kid definitely can definitely get open deep. I don't care how, but I want this kid in our camp.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Bump. Pro Day dates for them:

Cooper - 3/9/12
Saffold - 3/16/12
Akpla - 3/19/12

Will re-bump thread when these days arrive.
Where do you find your pro dates at OTC?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d826dde13/article/2012-pro-days-schedule

<blockquote class="quote"><div>Quote:</div>Pro days by date:

March 1: Missouri
March 2: Cincinnati
March 5: Alabama-Birmingham, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, McNeese State
March 6: Alabama A&M, Arkansas, Auburn, California Lutheran, Clark, Eastern Kentucky, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Liberty, Rhode Island, Sacramento State, Tarleton State, UCLA, Valdosta State
March 7: Alabama, California-Davis, Colgate, Eastern Washington, Fordham, Fort Valley, Kent State, Kentucky, Louisville, Northern Colorado, Southern California, Texas A&M, UTEP, Wisconsin
March 8: Alabama State, Buffalo, Clemson, Colorado, Miami (Fla.), Mississippi State, Nebraska, North Alabama, Northwestern, Ohio, Syracuse, Texas Tech, Washington, West Texas, Western Kentucky, Wofford, Wyoming, Youngstown State
March 9: Florida International, Furman, Mississippi, Montana, Northern Illinois, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Presbyterian, Purdue, TCU, Troy, Washington State
March 12: Air Force, Arkansas-Monticello, Central Michigan, Central Washington, Pittsburgh, Tulsa
March 13: Ball State, California (Pa.), Florida, Kansas State, Marshall, North Texas, Slippery Rock, Toledo, Western Michigan
March 14: Bowling Green, California, Central Arkansas, Central Oklahoma, Eastern Michigan, Florida State, Grambling, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisiana-Monroe, Maryland, Michigan State, Mount Union, Oklahoma, Penn State, Portland State, Tennessee Tech
March 15: Delaware State, Louisiana Tech, Michigan, UNLV, Nicholls State, Oregon, Southern Illinois, Townson, Tusculum, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wayne State (Mich.), William & Mary
March 16: Arizona State, James Madison, Missouri State, Oregon State, Richmond, Temple, Tennessee, West Virginia
March 19: Appalachian State, Arizona, Florida Atlantic, Iowa, LSU, Montana State, Rice, Southern, Wake Forest
March 20: Brown, Idaho, Iowa State, Louisiana-Lafayette, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Carolina A&T, South Florida, Texas
March 21: Baylor, Boston College, Houston, N.C. State, North Dakota State, Rutgers, San Diego State, San Jose State, Tulane, Western Kentucky
March 22: East Carolina, Maine, Memphis, Middle Tennessee State, South Dakota, South Dakota State, Stanford, Tennessee-Chattanooga
March 23: Cornell, Jackson State, Missouri Western, N.C. Central, Southern Mississippi, Stonybrook, Vanderbilt
March 26: Indiana State
March 27: Arkansas State, Coastal Carolina, Stephen F. Austin, Washburn
March 28: Central Florida, Connecticut, Newberry, Northern Iowa, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Carolina State
March 29: Brigham Young, Georgia Southern
March 30: Bethune-Cookman, Dartmouth
April 3: Abilene Christian, Notre Dame
April 4: SMU

You're the man OTC. Thank you kindly sir.
I like Dale Moss out of South Dakota State. Played 4 years of B-Ball there and made the conversion to football for the last of his eligability. He's raw but has great hands, can jump out of the stadium and is super athletic. His hardwood skills translate to the football field really well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycby0P7End8
Originally posted by boomer49er:
I like Dale Moss out of South Dakota State. Played 4 years of B-Ball there and made the conversion to football for the last of his eligability. He's raw but has great hands, can jump out of the stadium and is super athletic. His hardwood skills translate to the football field really well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycby0P7End8

We talked about him a bit in the late-round sleepers thread. He's an interesting UDFA guy. Think he played in the Players All Star Classic this year, can't recall, but he's got some skill.
I must have missed him in that thread. Id consider him in the 7th just to lock him up.
My boy Coale just ran an unofficial 4.4 40 time, did not expect that. If that time stands, along with his versatility where do you see him being picked OTC? I think he's definitely worth a look more than ever.

You definitely get credit for predicting that he times faster than he plays, just reread your initial response to me.
[ Edited by GoldenJoe on Feb 26, 2012 at 6:52 AM ]

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
My boy Coale just ran an unofficial 4.4 40 time, did not expect that. If that time stands, along with his versatility where do you see him being picked OTC? I think he's definitely worth a look more than ever.

You definitely get credit for predicting that he times faster than he plays, just reread your initial response to me.

Coale's official is 4.5.

A few guys I've mentioned:
Lavon Brazill - 4.48
TJ Graham - 4.41
Kashif Moore is a WR that can be had late in the draft or as UDFA. 4.42 40. 43.5 Vert. 126 in broad. He's only 5'9 but is showing he's explosive.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Kashif Moore is a WR that can be had late in the draft or as UDFA. 4.42 40. 43.5 Vert. 126 in broad. He's only 5'9 but is showing he's explosive.

Been keeping tabs on Kashif. I would like to hear more about what teams think about his lack of production, despite his striking physical abilities. Is it because of QB play? UConn's run-heavy offense? Both? Can't be sure. But you have to like his chances late.

Compact player, 5-9 180 4.42 (official) with 19 reps on the bench and that impressive explosiveness that can be inferred from the Vertical and Broad jump numbers.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
My boy Coale just ran an unofficial 4.4 40 time, did not expect that. If that time stands, along with his versatility where do you see him being picked OTC? I think he's definitely worth a look more than ever.

You definitely get credit for predicting that he times faster than he plays, just reread your initial response to me.

Coale's official is 4.5.

A few guys I've mentioned:
Lavon Brazill - 4.48
TJ Graham - 4.41

Thanks for the info. How are Graham's hands? Wasn't he a track guy?
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Kashif Moore is a WR that can be had late in the draft or as UDFA. 4.42 40. 43.5 Vert. 126 in broad. He's only 5'9 but is showing he's explosive.

Been keeping tabs on Kashif. I would like to hear more about what teams think about his lack of production, despite his striking physical abilities. Is it because of QB play? UConn's run-heavy offense? Both? Can't be sure. But you have to like his chances late.

Compact player, 5-9 180 4.42 (official) with 19 reps on the bench and that impressive explosiveness that can be inferred from the Vertical and Broad jump numbers.
I'm curious too. I know UConn more focuses on the run and that probably hurts his stats. But having McEntee this year and Frazer ( ) last year throwing to him doesn't help. McEntree might have a cute little trick shot video, but he's not very good when he gets on the field.

With his athletic ability, he'd be worth bringing in as a high-priority UDFA.
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