Is Quick not rated as high because he goes to a small school? The guy looks like a baller. A TO with better hands, but maybe not the top end speed. He's also got great balance.
If this guy rounds a "quick" 40 time....I think his stock rises.
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Originally posted by darum:
WRs like Quick are often big risks in the NFL. He has had a huge physical advantage over the small time defenders hes been up against during his college career and thus hasnt really needed to really on his route running. Being in an option offense with a limited route tree also hurts. This guy isnt going to be an every down WR from day 1, he will need a lot of work until he is really ready to shine in the NFL. Very important that our front office does its homework and make sure this guy is capable and willing to learn real WR skills.
Originally posted by GorefullBore:
I don't know how much of a risk. He is going to be drafted, what? In the 3rd round? That seems like a pretty good balance of risk vs reward to me. Plus, and maybe this isn't the best example Demaryius Thomas came from a similar offense and was selected in round 1. Now Thomas hasn't done a ton yet statisicly, but it really looked like the light was coming on toward the end of the year. Quick is quickly(no pun intended) becoming one of my favorite guys. I hope we get him. I like his size and potential to be a T.O. type of player, and as you will see here unlike some that will be in this draft, the guy seems willing to do the work it will take to be great.
I dont' know about you, but this is what I want from our next Wr. big play ability. I'm not saying that he be the only guy that we acquire this offseason. Maybe we can also get some one in fa that would allow him or whatever Wr to develop at their own pace, or Qick could surprise. I remember there being a buzz around T.O. in 96 when he was still an unkown rookie. This guy might be something similar.
Originally posted by darum:
I would agree that the end of the 3rd round would be pretty good value from my viewpoint, end of 4th would be great, but its not like i have seen his scouting tape or anything and i would prefer we stay away from 1st or 2nd round picks on WRs unless we are very confident in them. Demaryius Thomas so far has been pretty inconsistent. He got a ton of yardage at the end of last year on deep fades and posts, but to be a reliable threat you need to have a much more diverse route tree.
TO was a great player and had some nice physical tools, but he was only great because he outworked almost everyone. Staying in top shape, catching balls every day, and always improving his routes was what made him truly special, not his 40 time. Look at the GOAT, Jerry Rice. How big and fast was he? Jerry Rice was the greatest of all time and a huge playmaker because he was the hardest worker of all time. I think a lot of people get caught up with measurables when they look at WRs when it is my opinion that they are the position that is second most dependent on the intangible stuff (behind QBs). This isnt stuff that casual fans can really judge, potential NFL players know that everything they say will be scrutinized and are coached up on proper interview etiquette. Scouting departments need to look at who these guys hang out with, what they do with their free time, and try to gauge how deep their passion for the game goes. I trust out front office to be thorough and will be happy with whomever we draft as long as they continue to excel at making smart offseason moves.
There is a reason that WR has the highest bust rate in the early rounds. Being big and fast guarantees nothing. 6'6 guys can play small and 5'11 guys can play big. Its hard for me to get excited over any WR prospects, and right now this guy isnt any different. (although one thing i can get behind on this guy is his blocking skills. very willing blocker coming from an option offense and no one has brought it up yet)

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Great Post. Agree with everything you said.
I would definitely prefer taking Quick in the 3rd rather than taking Floyd, Jeffery, or Sanu in the 1st. Depending on how he works out at the combine and his pro day, Quick has the potential to really rise up the draft boards. I would use a 2nd round pick on him in a heartbeat.