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Why does everyone want a pass rusher again in the 1st round....

Understandable question.

Just imagine if we picked another guy who couold get 10-14 sacks from the other side of the D. The enemy can't run on us and now they wouldn't be able to pass on us. It would make our secondary's job a lot easier.

It would be a game planning nightmare for them.
Given how passing is all the rage in the NFL, why wouldn't teams put more of an emphasis and great pass rushing talent? I mean, if we could get a young pass rushing stud like Whitney Mercilus, Nick Perry or possibly even Melvin Ingram (if he somehow slid) to play opposite Aldon, why wouldn't we do it?
It's true that you can never have enough pass rushers, and we could certainly use an upgrade over Haralson IF Brooks is not resigned. But with that being said, I haven't seen anyone suggest we should draft one in the first round. All the debate I have seen is TE vs. CB. So not sure why you think "everyone" wants a pass rusher in the 1st?
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First, not everyone wants a pass rusher in the first round.

From what I can tell most people want a wide out in the first round.

We are going to need at least one more OLB. We only have three, and one of them, Ahmad Brooks, is a free agent.

If the best player available in the first round is not a wide receiver, we should still take the best available player, if that player fills a need.

So, if the best available player is an OLB, we would take a OLB.
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
We just drafted Aldon last year, we still have Brooks/Haralson who are still good just need to be resigned.. our front 3 did extremely well..

we have MAJOR holes over pass rushing... CB is a major hole... WR is a major hole.. and Frank Gore is only getting older... i swear every year all i hear is we need a pass rusher blahhh..


Copycat league..... see Giants



(p.s.-fk the giants).
Originally posted by buck:
First, not everyone wants a pass rusher in the first round.

From what I can tell most people want a wide out in the first round.

We are going to need at least one more OLB. We only have three, and one of them, Ahmad Brooks, is a free agent.

If the best player available in the first round is not a wide receiver, we should still take the best available player, if that player fills a need.

So, if the best available player is an OLB, we would take a OLB.

ONE SOLE REASON why I would choose an OLB or Corner in the first is because the talent in this years WR pool is deeper than the ocean. Theres soo much potential in all 7 rounds and they'll be plenty guys with lots of talent that wont get drafted and will have something to prove.

ex. Victor Cruz undrafted out of UMASS

I want somebody who will be able to come in and start immediately or be an instant threat with playmaking ability.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I must realize that brooks is a FA this year since i said "He just needs to be resigned".. and if we had 1 of the top defenses last year and he is resigned, then i suppose the means we have one of the top defenses again this year?

Im not seeing your point ... obviousley pass rush is important just like catching TD's is.. but this year offense was obviousley our biggest problem and not having a big WR to convert our 3rd downs.. If we keep the same defense in tact i dont see how you believe another pass rush is a bigger need than areas on offense.

It absolutely is. WR isn't going to be an automatic fix and WR's can be found anywhere in the draft. Top 3-4 OLB's are harder to come by. If it comes down to it, I'd rather they draft all for defense and improve upon the team's strength and then re-sign Morgan and maybe sign a guy like Meachem who is more ready to contribute than your typical rookie WR and maintain their edge.

There's maybe 1 premier WR in the draft this year and that's Blackmon, aside from him and possibly Floyd and Kendall Wright there's about 10-12 guys who are pretty much in the same range, all who have their own particular defects and will need time to develop.

I'd much rather go OLB in the 1st round, DE/DT in the 2nd and then look at at a WR if there's someone available that seemed like a good fit in the later rounds.

Welker=undrafted
Cruz=undrafted
Colston=7th round
Steve Smith=3rd round
Mike Wallace=3rd round
Brandon Marshall=3rd round


Morgan will be back, the offense will have another year of familiarity, sign a guy like Meachem off the street, draft a rookie in rounds 3-6 and the 49ers will be fine.


Originally posted by martysofresh:
Originally posted by buck:
First, not everyone wants a pass rusher in the first round.

From what I can tell most people want a wide out in the first round.

We are going to need at least one more OLB. We only have three, and one of them, Ahmad Brooks, is a free agent.

If the best player available in the first round is not a wide receiver, we should still take the best available player, if that player fills a need.

So, if the best available player is an OLB, we would take a OLB.

ONE SOLE REASON why I would choose an OLB or Corner in the first is because the talent in this years WR pool is deeper than the ocean. Theres soo much potential in all 7 rounds and they'll be plenty guys with lots of talent that wont get drafted and will have something to prove.

ex. Victor Cruz undrafted out of UMASS

I want somebody who will be able to come in and start immediately or be an instant threat with playmaking ability.


My only problem with those who often point to how certian player were sucessful as undrafted FA or low round draft pick, is that they talk about it like hitting on a player in that range is easy. In reality that is a rare occurance and the teams essentially luck out on those players. I think we need to have a higher priority on the WR position, not necessarily a first round pick but within the first three for sure depending on what we do in FA.
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Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
Here are the reasons:

a) Haralson is NOT a good pass rusher
b) Haralson is NOT a decent pass rusher
c) Brooks disappears for 4-5 games at a time
d) Brooks will likely walk as we cannot resign everyone
e) You can never have too many pass rushers
f) Pass rushers win superbowls

Our biggest hole, however, is at quarterback. Have people really forgotten that????

If we could get Vinny Curry in the First that would address a lot of things for us. Then if we could get a CB/WR in the second and third we would be set and then get KR and a RB then we could look for more depth positions and BPA
Originally posted by Ninefan56:
If we could get Vinny Curry in the First that would address a lot of things for us. Then if we could get a CB/WR in the second and third we would be set and then get KR and a RB then we could look for more depth positions and BPA

Curry is probably a third rounder.
Pass rush is always first priority over the secondary IMO
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Curry is probably a third rounder.

Not a fan of Curry? Would he be good value in the end of the 2nd, what is your take on him?
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Originally posted by Ninefan56:
If we could get Vinny Curry in the First that would address a lot of things for us. Then if we could get a CB/WR in the second and third we would be set and then get KR and a RB then we could look for more depth positions and BPA

Vinny Curry should be available late in the second round, but I do not think he will be there at the end of the third.

His times in the shuttles and work in combine drills are going to very important to watch.
49ers might let Brooks walk depending on how much he asks. Haralson isn't a dominate pass rusher and Justin Smith, while the best DL on the team, is getting old. Besides, for a true 3-4 to work, both OLBs need to be able to rush the passer. As good as Aldon Smith is, he won't be as effective, if teams hone in on him all the time. We need another guy to balance out the rush.
[ Edited by adrenaline on Feb 7, 2012 at 9:38 PM ]
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