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Originally posted by sfout:I think most NFL people would say that a person who is out of shape, or not ready to perform at a high level at the most important moment of their career, with plenty of time to prepare for it, is simply too immature to invest a high pick on. I've got a feeling he is already off a number of team boards already, and that list continues to shrink if he is not physically and mentally ready by the combine.
Question. If Jeffery is really 6-4 235 could he transition to TE? The line is already blurred with freaks like VD/Gronk/Graham etc that it you could argue that it could work.
LaDarius Green is a TE that is 6-6 235 so why aren't people wondering if he can transition to WR because of his length? If he runs a 4.5/4.6 in the forty I would want to this guy more then Jeffery.
Jeffery will have to run a sub 4.6 if he hopes to get drafted in the top 45, he'll have to show up at 220-225 and really cut to get my attention again.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
name 5 #2 TE that are better than walker
i can only think of hernandez
Pete Prisco @PriscoCBS
What I said last fall is now coming true: Alshon Jeffrey isn't fast enough. See Mike Williams (USC version).
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by oldman9er:Quote:he can't generate the burst needed to separate on long routes … Lacks plant-and-drive agility, spending too much time rounding his cuts and gathering at the top of the route … Has had ball concentration issues that resulted in several costly fumbles … Does not have the second gear needed to separate and turn a small catch into a big gain … Needs to explode out of his cuts better and this is caused mostly when he fails to drop his route in his patterns
Scouting report... for Marques Colston! [url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/408644]http://www.cbssports.
Big difference, Colston set school records and was far better at generating separation than Jeffery, Colston also improved every single year in college and never showed up looking fat.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Quote:
he can't generate the burst needed to separate on long routes … Lacks plant-and-drive agility, spending too much time rounding his cuts and gathering at the top of the route … Has had ball concentration issues that resulted in several costly fumbles … Does not have the second gear needed to separate and turn a small catch into a big gain … Needs to explode out of his cuts better and this is caused mostly when he fails to drop his route in his patterns
Scouting report... for Marques Colston! [url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/408644]http://www.cbssports.
Big difference, Colston set school records and was far better at generating separation than Jeffery, Colston also improved every single year in college and never showed up looking fat.
Jeffery set school records n SEC records. As far seperation he did very well considering his QBs.
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Quote:
he can't generate the burst needed to separate on long routes … Lacks plant-and-drive agility, spending too much time rounding his cuts and gathering at the top of the route … Has had ball concentration issues that resulted in several costly fumbles … Does not have the second gear needed to separate and turn a small catch into a big gain … Needs to explode out of his cuts better and this is caused mostly when he fails to drop his route in his patterns
Scouting report... for Marques Colston! [url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/408644]http://www.cbssports.
Big difference, Colston set school records and was far better at generating separation than Jeffery, Colston also improved every single year in college and never showed up looking fat.
Jeffery set school records n SEC records. As far seperation he did very well considering his QBs.
colston never showed up fat and had weight issues
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery doesnt have weight issues and never showed up fat. Hes always been this size and always had moobs. Could he get rid of those moobs sure he could. Once hes able to do nothing but train and get on a proper diet those man titties will go away. s**t hes only 21 and at USC he had a full plate with, class, work, and a NCAA investigation. If he came out last year his moobs wouldnt have been issue. If he came in any bigger or had work ethic issues. Spurrier would have kicked his ass off the team or benched him. He didnt because all the people knocking him are just guessing and have nothing else to say about him. Seperation is a thing where you have to judge the WR n QB who is throwing the ball imo. If a QB is throwing the ball all jacked up like Garcia and Shaw its gonna make the WRs look like s**t. Or if youre gonna compare Jefferys speed to Wright or Blackmon hes going to look slow. Its a give in since both those guys are legit 4.4 fast. Jeffery gets his seperation by positioning himself where only he can get the ball and his route running. You dont get his stats especially his YPC without running good routes and putting yourself in position to beat CBs. Those that say he runs s**tty routes have only seen Shaw or a mind broke Garcia throwing him the ball. Jeffery knows how to get open on his routes, has enough speed to get deep and his hands are second to none.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery doesnt have weight issues and never showed up fat. Hes always been this size and always had moobs. Could he get rid of those moobs sure he could. Once hes able to do nothing but train and get on a proper diet those man titties will go away. s**t hes only 21 and at USC he had a full plate with, class, work, and a NCAA investigation. If he came out last year his moobs wouldnt have been issue. If he came in any bigger or had work ethic issues. Spurrier would have kicked his ass off the team or benched him. He didnt because all the people knocking him are just guessing and have nothing else to say about him. Seperation is a thing where you have to judge the WR n QB who is throwing the ball imo. If a QB is throwing the ball all jacked up like Garcia and Shaw its gonna make the WRs look like s**t. Or if youre gonna compare Jefferys speed to Wright or Blackmon hes going to look slow. Its a give in since both those guys are legit 4.4 fast. Jeffery gets his seperation by positioning himself where only he can get the ball and his route running. You dont get his stats especially his YPC without running good routes and putting yourself in position to beat CBs. Those that say he runs s**tty routes have only seen Shaw or a mind broke Garcia throwing him the ball. Jeffery knows how to get open on his routes, has enough speed to get deep and his hands are second to none.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery doesnt have weight issues and never showed up fat. Hes always been this size and always had moobs. Could he get rid of those moobs sure he could. Once hes able to do nothing but train and get on a proper diet those man titties will go away. s**t hes only 21 and at USC he had a full plate with, class, work, and a NCAA investigation. If he came out last year his moobs wouldnt have been issue. If he came in any bigger or had work ethic issues. Spurrier would have kicked his ass off the team or benched him. He didnt because all the people knocking him are just guessing and have nothing else to say about him. Seperation is a thing where you have to judge the WR n QB who is throwing the ball imo. If a QB is throwing the ball all jacked up like Garcia and Shaw its gonna make the WRs look like s**t. Or if youre gonna compare Jefferys speed to Wright or Blackmon hes going to look slow. Its a give in since both those guys are legit 4.4 fast. Jeffery gets his seperation by positioning himself where only he can get the ball and his route running. You dont get his stats especially his YPC without running good routes and putting yourself in position to beat CBs. Those that say he runs s**tty routes have only seen Shaw or a mind broke Garcia throwing him the ball. Jeffery knows how to get open on his routes, has enough speed to get deep and his hands are second to none.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery doesnt have weight issues and never showed up fat. Hes always been this size and always had moobs. Could he get rid of those moobs sure he could. Once hes able to do nothing but train and get on a proper diet those man titties will go away. s**t hes only 21 and at USC he had a full plate with, class, work, and a NCAA investigation. If he came out last year his moobs wouldnt have been issue. If he came in any bigger or had work ethic issues. Spurrier would have kicked his ass off the team or benched him. He didnt because all the people knocking him are just guessing and have nothing else to say about him. Seperation is a thing where you have to judge the WR n QB who is throwing the ball imo. If a QB is throwing the ball all jacked up like Garcia and Shaw its gonna make the WRs look like s**t. Or if youre gonna compare Jefferys speed to Wright or Blackmon hes going to look slow. Its a give in since both those guys are legit 4.4 fast. Jeffery gets his seperation by positioning himself where only he can get the ball and his route running. You dont get his stats especially his YPC without running good routes and putting yourself in position to beat CBs. Those that say he runs s**tty routes have only seen Shaw or a mind broke Garcia throwing him the ball. Jeffery knows how to get open on his routes, has enough speed to get deep and his hands are second to none.
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
Jeffery doesnt have weight issues and never showed up fat. Hes always been this size and always had moobs. Could he get rid of those moobs sure he could. Once hes able to do nothing but train and get on a proper diet those man titties will go away. s**t hes only 21 and at USC he had a full plate with, class, work, and a NCAA investigation. If he came out last year his moobs wouldnt have been issue. If he came in any bigger or had work ethic issues. Spurrier would have kicked his ass off the team or benched him. He didnt because all the people knocking him are just guessing and have nothing else to say about him. Seperation is a thing where you have to judge the WR n QB who is throwing the ball imo. If a QB is throwing the ball all jacked up like Garcia and Shaw its gonna make the WRs look like s**t. Or if youre gonna compare Jefferys speed to Wright or Blackmon hes going to look slow. Its a give in since both those guys are legit 4.4 fast. Jeffery gets his seperation by positioning himself where only he can get the ball and his route running. You dont get his stats especially his YPC without running good routes and putting yourself in position to beat CBs. Those that say he runs s**tty routes have only seen Shaw or a mind broke Garcia throwing him the ball. Jeffery knows how to get open on his routes, has enough speed to get deep and his hands are second to none.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are a Cock fan.
Originally posted by jta854:I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are a Cock fan.
