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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
parcells looks like my dad

is your dad colored orange too
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Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Does anyone know when it's on again? I thought I saw Sunday on my program guide, now I can't find it?

I don't know. DVR'ed it. Haven't watched it yet. But I just looked for it, and it doesn't say there's a repeat yet. I'll keep an eye out for it though.

Thanks man!

Not a problem. I can't wait to see it. Just have to wait for my girlfriend to go to bed.

I think it was very interesting. Let me know what you think.

Oh so I just got done watching it. I loved it. Really interesting, the grading system and lettering system. My favorite part, was when he said Ryan Kerrigan is going to be a person you look back on and say "wow I'm glad i took him" type. As a Purude fan, I've been on his bandwagon for 2 years. Loved seeing Bill give my Purdue players some love.
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Does anyone know when it's on again? I thought I saw Sunday on my program guide, now I can't find it?

I don't know. DVR'ed it. Haven't watched it yet. But I just looked for it, and it doesn't say there's a repeat yet. I'll keep an eye out for it though.

Thanks man!

Not a problem. I can't wait to see it. Just have to wait for my girlfriend to go to bed.

I think it was very interesting. Let me know what you think.

Oh so I just got done watching it. I loved it. Really interesting, the grading system and lettering system. My favorite part, was when he said Ryan Kerrigan is going to be a person you look back on and say "wow I'm glad i took him" type. As a Purude fan, I've been on his bandwagon for 2 years. Loved seeing Bill give my Purdue players some love.

Like I said earlier, as I was listening to Parcells talk about his prospect grading system, I wonder if Trent Baalke is using a similar process in grading with the 49ers? After all, he is a Bill Parcells disciple.
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Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Travisty13:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Does anyone know when it's on again? I thought I saw Sunday on my program guide, now I can't find it?

I don't know. DVR'ed it. Haven't watched it yet. But I just looked for it, and it doesn't say there's a repeat yet. I'll keep an eye out for it though.

Thanks man!

Not a problem. I can't wait to see it. Just have to wait for my girlfriend to go to bed.

I think it was very interesting. Let me know what you think.

Oh so I just got done watching it. I loved it. Really interesting, the grading system and lettering system. My favorite part, was when he said Ryan Kerrigan is going to be a person you look back on and say "wow I'm glad i took him" type. As a Purude fan, I've been on his bandwagon for 2 years. Loved seeing Bill give my Purdue players some love.

As a Notre Dame fan, I've hated playing against Kerrigan for the last 3 years. I'd be ecstatic if we picked him provided we traded back. High motor, high character guy who possesses multiple pass rush moves.
Baalke talks like Tuna (Eric Branch)
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Originally posted by PTulini:
Baalke talks like Tuna (Eric Branch)

Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
It looks like he has prince higher then PP

So did Eric Davis in a recent article he wrote.... interesting...
Didn't see it. Too much basketball to watch. s**t i doubt i barely watch the draft between the NBA and the office. Just get the results on my phone. I'll try to catch this special later on. Probably running on espn2 all day b/c they sure do re run those Gruden specials over and over.
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It was good viewing, but he never gave a mock draft.
does parcell have a good record of drafting people?

he picked Jake long over Matt Ryan
Originally posted by ads_2006:
does parcell have a good record of drafting people?

he picked Jake long over Matt Ryan

He's right more often than he's wrong. Besides, I don't think that Jake Long was a bad pick.
Originally posted by KRS-1:
Originally posted by Travisty13:

Oh so I just got done watching it. I loved it. Really interesting, the grading system and lettering system. My favorite part, was when he said Ryan Kerrigan is going to be a person you look back on and say "wow I'm glad i took him" type. As a Purude fan, I've been on his bandwagon for 2 years. Loved seeing Bill give my Purdue players some love.

As a Notre Dame fan, I've hated playing against Kerrigan for the last 3 years. I'd be ecstatic if we picked him provided we traded back. High motor, high character guy who possesses multiple pass rush moves.

Notre Dame fan? You and I can never be friends lol. But I agree. If we came away with Prince or Kerrigan, I don't see how we could go wrong. Both are highly productive, high character, and both love football. Those 2 guys are the perfect example of the type of players you want on your team.

Originally posted by PTulini:

Like I said earlier, as I was listening to Parcells talk about his prospect grading system, I wonder if Trent Baalke is using a similar process in grading with the 49ers? After all, he is a Bill Parcells disciple.

I'd have to assume their grading system is quite similiar. Of course Baalke is going to put his own spin and opinions into the system. But I bet your right, Baalke probably does use the Parcells grading scheme.
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Originally posted by Jwalk:
Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
Originally posted by PTulini:
Originally posted by Jwalk:
Originally posted by mrbusinessman499:
It looks like he has prince higher then PP

I missed it I went to the bathroom real quick. I did see he had Owen Marecic graded as a 3rd rounder on his board.

Yeah, the board might just be for show?


Don't think so cause he had Cam Newton on top and he said that's the QB he loves in the draft so put two and two I'm pretty sure he has prince on top for a reason


Parcells has BC's Anthony Castonzo as his third first-round offensive tackle, and at defensive end, a position the Patriots are projected to draft, he has Wisconsin's J.J. Watt as the best prospect.


QB:

1st: Newton, Gabbert

2nd: Mallett, Ponder, Locker

3rd: Dalton, Kaepernick

--

WR:

1st: Green, Jones

2nd: Smith, Cobb, Young

3rd: Hankerson, Baldwin, Pettis, Jernigan, Gates (?)

--

RB:

1st: Ingram

2nd: Williams, Thomas, Leshoure

3rd: Murray, Hunter

--

TE:

1st: Rudolph

2nd: None

--

OT:

1st: Solder, Smith, Castonzo

2nd: Sherrod, Reid

3rd: Cannon, Carimi, Ijalana

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OG:

1st: None

2nd: Watkins, Wisniewski

3rd: Carpenter, Rackley

4th: Boling, Moffitt

--

OC:

1st: Pouncey

2nd: None

3rd: Hudson

4th: Fusco


DE:

1st: Watt, Bowers, Heyward, Jordan, Quinn, Clayborne

2nd: Bailey, Acho

3rd: Ballard, Sheard, McPhee

4th: Romeus

--

DT/NT:

1st: Dareus, Fairley, Taylor, Wilkerson

2nd: Liuget, Paea, Austin

3rd: Nevis, Ellis, Powell, Jenkins

--

OLB:

1st: Miller, Smith, Kerrigan

2nd: Ayers, Moch, Houston

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ILB:

1st: Irving

2nd: Wilson, Carter

3rd: Matthews, Sheppard, Homan

4th: Jones, Sturdivant

--

S:

1st: None

2nd: Moore, McDaniel

--

CB:

1st: Peterson, Amukamara

2nd: Smith, Williams, Brown(?), Harris



http://www.patspulpit.com/2011/4/25/2133222/nfl-draft-2011-bill-parcells-draft-board

Parcells has Patrick Peterson rated below Prince Amukamara.

That goes against almost every other scout.

If you look closely at his board, the magnets seem to be carefully arranged to show where in the round he thinks the player belongs (Mike Pouncey is the only player in the OC 1st round square yet the magnet is placed all the way at the bottom of the big square. Same with Terrell McClain in the 4th rd NT/DT. Squares with several players have different spacings between the players. Seems he thinks OT Solder should be at top of 1st rd (another surprise) while Smith about the 15-20th pick & Castonzo at end of rd 1). I doubt very much this spacing is happenstance. This would put Patrick Peterson around the 25th pick which I thought was shocking. Wonder what he sees?

I think he ultimately sees what most people do about PP - that he will end up as a FS, not a CB. He said that ONLY QB, OL, OLB/DE and shut down corners should be top 10 picks. I suppose that regardless of how talented a prospect, Parcells would not take a safety until the last third of the 1st round ...
Here's the order Bill had on his draft board:



Quote:
For instance, here were the OT rankings on that board, by rank, by round:

1.Solder, Smith, Castonzo
2.Sherrod, Reid
3.Cannon, Carimi, Franklin
4.Ijalana, Hairston, Love

Defensive End:

1.Watt, Bowers, Heyward, Jordan, Quinn, Clayborn
2.Bailey, Acho
3.Ballard, Sheard, McPhee
4.Romeus, Reed

Defensive Tackle/Nose Tackle:

1.Dareus, Fairley, Taylor, Wilkerson
2.Liuget, Paea, Austin
3.Nevis, Ellis, Powe, Jenkins
4.McClain

OLB:

1.Miller, Smith, Kerrigan
2.Ayers, Moch, Houston
3....
4....

ILB:

1.Irving
2.Wilson, Carter
3.Matthews, Foster, Homan
4.Jones, Sturdivant, Mouton, McCarthy

Safety:

1....
2.Moore, McDaniel
3.Sands, Conte, Carter
4.Sash

Cornerback:

1.Amukamara, Peterson
2.Smith, Williams, Dowling, Harris
3.Brown, Wright, Culliver
4.Burton, Patrick, Brown, Gilchrist

Guard:

1....
2.Watkins, Wisniewksi
3.Carpenter, Rackley
4.Boling, Moffitt

Center:

1.Pouncey
2....
3.Hudson
4....

Wide Receiver:

1.Green, Jones
2.Smith, Cobb, Young
3.Hankerson, Baldwin, Pettis, Jernigan
4.Doss, Johnson, Little, Nilas

Quarterback:

1.Newton, Gabbert
2.Mallett, Ponder, Locker
3.Dalton, Kaepernick
4.Stanzi

Running Back:

1.Ingram
2.Williams, Thomas, Leshoure
3.Murray, Hunter
4.Helu, Jones, Todman

Tight End/Fullback:

1.Rudolph
2....
3.Stocker, Kendricks, Marecic
4.Williams, Saunders, Cameron, Smith, Hynoski (5th round)
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