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Football Gameplan's Mock Draft Video - Final Mock

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

The bold is a huge misconception of all QB's. Look at Kurt Warner and other slow QB's. I just want a QB that knows when to shift around more than how fast he does it. Brady is jokingly slow but he knows when to move. Same with Manning.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

The bold is a huge misconception of all QB's. Look at Kurt Warner and other slow QB's. I just want a QB that knows when to shift around more than how fast he does it. Brady is jokingly slow but he knows when to move. Same with Manning.

Yea but their o-line is also more elite than ours.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

The bold is a huge misconception of all QB's. Look at Kurt Warner and other slow QB's. I just want a QB that knows when to shift around more than how fast he does it. Brady is jokingly slow but he knows when to move. Same with Manning.

Yea but their o-line is also more elite than ours.

I think that has more to do with the system than the personnel and Manning's OL wasn't that great.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

The bold is a huge misconception of all QB's. Look at Kurt Warner and other slow QB's. I just want a QB that knows when to shift around more than how fast he does it. Brady is jokingly slow but he knows when to move. Same with Manning.

Yea but their o-line is also more elite than ours.

I think that has more to do with the system than the personnel and Manning's OL wasn't that great.

Yea you're right, Manning's OL hasn't been great this past season, but all the prior seasons, it's been pretty damn good.
Originally posted by EmDiggy:
I can also seeing you guys getting Kaepernick.. but if you guys don't get Miller, then I just feel like Mallett fits PERFECTLY with Harbaugh's scheme..

This guy can't be a niner fan or he'd know better. First he says and I quote "I can also seeing you guys getting Kaepernick.. but if you guys don't get Miller," unquote.
Where a person gets drafted can at times effect a persons ego and drive, Mallet is one of those cases I think. Draft him high he might probably fail. Draft him in the 2nd or later and he may have an axe to grind.
We must consider that if we don't get a Game 1 ready QB, then we do not have a QB on our team unless you consider Carr a QB.

Now consider the best Game 1 ready QB's in this draft and at which position we can grab the one we like.
Originally posted by Joecool:
We must consider that if we don't get a Game 1 ready QB, then we do not have a QB on our team unless you consider Carr a QB.

Now consider the best Game 1 ready QB's in this draft and at which position we can grab the one we like.

I don't think any of the QB's we get in the draft are going to be ready and that we will go with a veteran FA (which, even though I protest, could include AS orHasslebeck and Bulger). AS cause he is familiar with the other players and Hasslebeck because he is a vet and familiar with a version of the WCO. Carr is gone.
Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by Joecool:
We must consider that if we don't get a Game 1 ready QB, then we do not have a QB on our team unless you consider Carr a QB.

Now consider the best Game 1 ready QB's in this draft and at which position we can grab the one we like.

I don't think any of the QB's we get in the draft are going to be ready and that we will go with a veteran FA (which, even though I protest, could include AS orHasslebeck and Bulger). AS cause he is familiar with the other players and Hasslebeck because he is a vet and familiar with a version of the WCO. Carr is gone.

I have a feeling we will sign a QB who'd experienced in the WCO. Alex Smith will be as good as a rookie QB if he doesn't have all offseason to absorb the playbook.

Man, we are in more of a mess at that position than I realized. Unless Harbaugh can get success out of Smith or the rookie by completely dumbing down the offense or dumbing down the translation of the plays during games, then I don't see how we are successful. We will be running as many plays as we ran with Troy Smith at the helm.
Originally posted by EmDiggy:


Good Afternoon Niner Fans! Here's my Final Mock Draft Video!

Enjoy!

Em

Em,

Regarding your comments about Cam Newton NOT coming from a one-read offense. Allow me to quote you a portion of a book called "The Hurry-Up, No-Huddle: An Offensive Philosophy." This book was written by Gus Malzahn, who has gained more notoriety for coordinating Newton's offense at Auburn.

According to Malzahn, the coordinator (himself in this case) "should give your quarterback ONE defensive player to read and only TWO receiver options based on that defensive player's actions. [...] Based on four years of statstics, we know this (the reading of ONE defensive player) has helped our touchdown-to-interception ratio since using this simplistic approach."

In other words, Newton's 30-to-7 TD/INT ratio is proof that Malzahn's ONE read system works, not proof that Newton is worth the #1 spot.
Scott
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

Universal Draft did a pretty extensive writeup and video analysis along with game vids. Props to you if you read the whole thing and sit through the vids.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/03/draft_winds_lies_damn_lies_and_1.html

What about Gabbert makes you think he has more potential? Because he runs faster? What QBs other than Rodgers and Vick are QBs that run alot and have success? What about "slow" ones like Manning, Brady, and Brees?

On the field, I see little difference between stafford and Mallett. In fact I find Mallett to be more impressive, he seems to have better pocket awareness. If Baalke and company agree, then why should they care what Kiper and co. think? If they grade Mallett out as the best QB in this class, what makes you think other teams like the Titans, Redskins, and Vikings don't feel the same way? On draft day, the whole "value" aspect of mock drafts done by TV analysts is as irrelevant as monopoly money on Wall Street.
[ Edited by chinawildman on Apr 14, 2011 at 10:48 PM ]
Originally posted by chinawildman:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

Universal Draft did a pretty extensive writeup and video analysis along with game vids. Props to you if you read the whole thing and sit through the vids.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/03/draft_winds_lies_damn_lies_and_1.html

What about Gabbert makes you think he has more potential? Because he runs faster? What QBs other than Rodgers and Vick are QBs that run alot and have success? What about "slow" ones like Manning, Brady, and Brees?

On the field, I see little difference between stafford and Mallett. In fact I find Mallett to be more impressive, he seems to have better pocket awareness. If Baalke and company agree, then why should they care what Kiper and co. think? If they grade Mallett out as the best QB in this class, what makes you think other teams like the Titans, Redskins, and Vikings don't feel the same way? On draft day, the whole "value" aspect of mock drafts done by TV analysts is as irrelevant as monopoly money on Wall Street.

The reason I say Gabbert may have more potential than Mallett is due to his ability to keep a play alive with his feet. Is he faster than Mallett, yes, but that's not the reason why I say he has more potential. Mallett is a pocket QB and has been throughout his college career. When the play breaks down and he is pressured, I don't expect him running out of the pocket on a broken play and finding an open man. This is where someone like Gabbert, Locker, Dalton, Kaepernick, and even Stanzi has succeeded and can prove to be vital in the NFL.

We have no clue how the 49ers draft board looks so we can only assume where we think players will go. I'm basing my opinions on what I've seen throughout the college season and what talking heads have on their mocks/draft boards. IMO, a draft that can get us Quinn/Prince/Peterson then a QB in the 2nd is better for us than Mallett in the 1st and Davon House/Aaron Williams/Johnny Patrick in the 2nd.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

Universal Draft did a pretty extensive writeup and video analysis along with game vids. Props to you if you read the whole thing and sit through the vids.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/03/draft_winds_lies_damn_lies_and_1.html

What about Gabbert makes you think he has more potential? Because he runs faster? What QBs other than Rodgers and Vick are QBs that run alot and have success? What about "slow" ones like Manning, Brady, and Brees?

On the field, I see little difference between stafford and Mallett. In fact I find Mallett to be more impressive, he seems to have better pocket awareness. If Baalke and company agree, then why should they care what Kiper and co. think? If they grade Mallett out as the best QB in this class, what makes you think other teams like the Titans, Redskins, and Vikings don't feel the same way? On draft day, the whole "value" aspect of mock drafts done by TV analysts is as irrelevant as monopoly money on Wall Street.

The reason I say Gabbert may have more potential than Mallett is due to his ability to keep a play alive with his feet. Is he faster than Mallett, yes, but that's not the reason why I say he has more potential. Mallett is a pocket QB and has been throughout his college career. When the play breaks down and he is pressured, I don't expect him running out of the pocket on a broken play and finding an open man. This is where someone like Gabbert, Locker, Dalton, Kaepernick, and even Stanzi has succeeded and can prove to be vital in the NFL.

We have no clue how the 49ers draft board looks so we can only assume where we think players will go. I'm basing my opinions on what I've seen throughout the college season and what talking heads have on their mocks/draft boards. IMO, a draft that can get us Quinn/Prince/Peterson then a QB in the 2nd is better for us than Mallett in the 1st and Davon House/Aaron Williams/Johnny Patrick in the 2nd.

First off, I think Gabbert's mobility is to his detriment. It makes him always think he can buy more time and waits until a guy "gets open" before he throws it. Watch his game vids, He does that little backwards towards the sidelines thing very reminiscent of Alex Smith. Not to mention he's skiddish in the pocket, feels phantom pressure, and also played in a spread. Sorry this guy reeks of Smith and I think the organization is once bitten, twice shy when it comes to that kind of QB.

Secondly, while I see your point in getting an impact guy on defense followed by a QB. There are as many as 10 teams that are in need of a starter at QB. By the time the niners pick in the 2nd, all 10 teams will have chosen, and most of them will have had a 2nd crack at their QB. I don't think QB is one of those positions where you say "Yea we'll just take the next best guy"....
Originally posted by chinawildman:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by chinawildman:
First off, great job and way to stick your neck out on picks that you believe in instead of just obeying the words of Kiper and co. We actually agree on alot of stuff as I think Mallett looks tons better than Gabbert, and also believe that Amukamara is nowhere close to being the prospect that Peterson is.

I've actually been doing quite a bit of homework on Ryan Mallett and it's too bad that the media has been giving him such a bad rap. If anyone actually bothers to do some research and watch some tapes on him, they'll realize that Mallett is the most natural passer in this draft, has VERY GOOD accuracy, and can move in the pocket to evade rushers.

What I also like about Mallett is that he ALWAYS has his eyes down the field and always GOES FOR IT, whereas Gabbert does that little run backwards towards the sidelines thing a la Smith. Also watch the interview with Gruden, sure he sounds all hip hop or whatever, but compare his charting and explanation of the play to that of Jake Locker. Not even close, Gruden was actually interested in what Mallett had to say, whereas he just had this puzzled look when Locker was talking.

I personally would have no problem with Mallett at #7... Harbaugh never said he wanted an ATHLETE at QB, he said he values athletic INSTINCTS. Watch tape of all the highly ranked QBs and tell me who you think looks instinctual playing the game.

Do you actually have access to the "tape" or do you watch it from YouTube? Honest question. I watched most of Mallett's games the past two years and I agree that the guy is talented and that he's more pro ready than Gabbert. He doesn't have as much potential, but the talent level is definitely there. His accuracy is good when given time. That's the key, you have to give him time. Once there is pressure, his accuracy drops and he tends to force passes. He's also not as quick in the pocket as you make it seem. He's long legged and heavy footed. The speed of an NFL defense is going to make a living beating on Mallett unless he has a good o-line in front of him. You say Harbs never said he wanted an "Athletic" QB, and you're right, but he pretty much eluded to it. He's coached Josh Johnson and Andrew Luck, and scouted Blaine Gabbert. All those QBs are pretty athletic. Most of the top QBs in this draft have a pretty high level of athleticism, so why would we settle for the one that is statuesque in the pocket?

Mallett at #7 would be a huge mistake with all the top players available at that spot like Peterson (not likely), Quinn, and Amukamara. Mallett's value, according to some of the big boards from analysts is around the end of the 1st and beginning of the 2nd round. If we really wanted him, we'd try to make a trade back up for him. If not, Quinn/Amukamara in the 1st and Dalton/Kaep in the 2nd is a much better option than Mallett at #7.

Universal Draft did a pretty extensive writeup and video analysis along with game vids. Props to you if you read the whole thing and sit through the vids.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/03/draft_winds_lies_damn_lies_and_1.html

What about Gabbert makes you think he has more potential? Because he runs faster? What QBs other than Rodgers and Vick are QBs that run alot and have success? What about "slow" ones like Manning, Brady, and Brees?

On the field, I see little difference between stafford and Mallett. In fact I find Mallett to be more impressive, he seems to have better pocket awareness. If Baalke and company agree, then why should they care what Kiper and co. think? If they grade Mallett out as the best QB in this class, what makes you think other teams like the Titans, Redskins, and Vikings don't feel the same way? On draft day, the whole "value" aspect of mock drafts done by TV analysts is as irrelevant as monopoly money on Wall Street.

The reason I say Gabbert may have more potential than Mallett is due to his ability to keep a play alive with his feet. Is he faster than Mallett, yes, but that's not the reason why I say he has more potential. Mallett is a pocket QB and has been throughout his college career. When the play breaks down and he is pressured, I don't expect him running out of the pocket on a broken play and finding an open man. This is where someone like Gabbert, Locker, Dalton, Kaepernick, and even Stanzi has succeeded and can prove to be vital in the NFL.

We have no clue how the 49ers draft board looks so we can only assume where we think players will go. I'm basing my opinions on what I've seen throughout the college season and what talking heads have on their mocks/draft boards. IMO, a draft that can get us Quinn/Prince/Peterson then a QB in the 2nd is better for us than Mallett in the 1st and Davon House/Aaron Williams/Johnny Patrick in the 2nd.

First off, I think Gabbert's mobility is to his detriment. It makes him always think he can buy more time and waits until a guy "gets open" before he throws it. Watch his game vids, He does that little backwards towards the sidelines thing very reminiscent of Alex Smith. Not to mention he's skiddish in the pocket, feels phantom pressure, and also played in a spread. Sorry this guy reeks of Smith and I think the organization is once bitten, twice shy when it comes to that kind of QB.

Secondly, while I see your point in getting an impact guy on defense followed by a QB. There are as many as 10 teams that are in need of a starter at QB. By the time the niners pick in the 2nd, all 10 teams will have chosen, and most of them will have had a 2nd crack at their QB. I don't think QB is one of those positions where you say "Yea we'll just take the next best guy"....

Let me start off by saying that I am not in the Gabbert bandwagon, nor am I in the Mallett bandwagon. Gabbert doesn't remind me of Alex Smith at all. Just because Gabbert runs towards the sideline backwards that means he's gonna be just like Alex? I don't see it. A lot of QBs do that. It's called keeping a play alive.

Also, if we had a real crush on a certain QB in the 2nd round, I can see Baalke and Harbaugh making a trade. We definitely have the ammunition to do so.
You lost me at Mallet at #7 and "John Harbaugh"...