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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
So is the story of Mallett having a drug problem true? If so, I wouldn't touch him. Imagine how difficult it will be for him when he actually has money and fame? No thanks!

The problem with Mallett is his lack of shiftiness in the pocket. He is going to get killed at the next level. It is not a speed issue, but an ability to sidestep guys, step up in the pocket or throw them off. QB's like Manning, Brady, Big Ben probably couldn't run the forty in under 5.25, but they have the ability to manipulate their body to avoid being tackled by rushers. I do not see Mallett having this skill, and I wouldn't trust him to lead the team once the frustration of the NFL (and it is a frustrating league), settles in. He wouldn't even be on my board. I see a horrific bust at the next level.

Mad Dog, do you see him as "the next" Ryan Leaf?

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:
OTC, what do you think of Mallet as a prospect?

There is no question Mallett can throw the football. He is quite possibly the best at ball placement among every QB in this entire draft. He can throw "the perfect pass" and that's an incredibly valuable trait. He also probably has the strongest arm in the country. However, the questions surrounding his maturity and ability to handle the limelight remain unanswered.

It depends on which GM is adequately convinced his alleged "character flaws" are not going surface in the NFL and affect the team. He has an arrest in his history , and he has been accused of having drug-related problems which he never directly confirmed or denied. That could be alarming. We'll find out soon enough if he passed his combine drug test.

His only major on-the-field flaws are his lack of athleticism -- as he's no legitimate threat to run -- and inconsistent accuracy on the move. But in my opinion he has decent enough feet to slide and avoid pressure long enough to make a play. I think he does have to be knocked down some because his accuracy on the move is inconsistent and on occasion when under heavy pressure he has not made smart throws.

Talent-wise, he's a first rounder, but I don't know if his attitude will rub his teammates the wrong way and if Mallett lands in the place where the team can't block for him at all, he'll do very poorly early on. I think overall he's a high 2nd rounder, but if a team likes his skill enough and think they can work around the other issues, they could ignore the risk and take him in the mid to late 1st.

Have you seen his combine press conference? I kept (and keep) hearing it was terrible and he was defensive, but when I watched it he sounded collected and mature. Add to that, he's spoken of extremely well by his coaches and teammates and is really made out to be the kind of leader I think we've been looking for around here. I really feel the character issues have been blown way out of proportion at this point.
... and just FYI, it was a public intoxication he was arrested for, not a DUI.

Whoops, I wrote this late, so forgive the little hiccup there. You're correct and a PI is much less of a deal than a DUI obviously.

As far as the character issues, the key word I put there before it was "alleged" -- that's the big thing. Like yourself, personally when I hear the guy I'm not sure what these other individuals are talking about. Where does he sound immature? Where has he seemed ignorant? When I mentioned his attitude in that last paragraph there, I should've used the word "supposed" before it.

The media's writings I believe have taken certain things he's said and blatantly and maliciously slanted them in my opinion, depicting him as some sort of arrogant neanderthal.

Mallett is no doubt a country boy, but he's not an idiot. He did get a 26 on the Wonderlic. If he had any drug issues, everyone would know because they test for those things at the combine. Like I said, as far as his play goes, he's a tremendous passer and aside from sometimes getting absolutely wild with the ball when under pressure, the only other issue would be his athleticism.

All that said, I still think there's a chance Mallett falls to the top of the 2nd if he gets past teams like Miami and Jacksonville. I don't think Seattle is a fit for Mallett, so unless someone decided to trade up, I think Mallett would then go to the Bills, Bengals or Cardinals.

Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Absolutely, I agree with you there.

I actually see him as possibly the only elite-QB-in-waiting in this draft. As you say, his arm and in-your-face attitude are essential to get to that top tier.

Despite what some (one?) may say about his ability to sense the pressure, I don't see that. At this time there is no justification for saying that he cannot be at least as good at is as Brady. None whatsoever. He showed excellent awareness in college.

Yes he was wild at times. That can come from trying too hard. Putting too much on his shoulders. But that's what coaches are for; to coach that out of him.

If this kid goes to a team with decent coaches, he's going to be a star.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
So is the story of Mallett having a drug problem true? If so, I wouldn't touch him. Imagine how difficult it will be for him when he actually has money and fame? No thanks!

The problem with Mallett is his lack of shiftiness in the pocket. He is going to get killed at the next level. It is not a speed issue, but an ability to sidestep guys, step up in the pocket or throw them off. QB's like Manning, Brady, Big Ben probably couldn't run the forty in under 5.25, but they have the ability to manipulate their body to avoid being tackled by rushers. I do not see Mallett having this skill, and I wouldn't trust him to lead the team once the frustration of the NFL (and it is a frustrating league), settles in. He wouldn't even be on my board. I see a horrific bust at the next level.

Thanks for the write up! I wonder why the Niners are brining him in this month? All I keep hearing is how accurate and strong his arm is. But you are right, if he can't escape pressure, he wont be able to throw the ball on his back.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
So is the story of Mallett having a drug problem true? If so, I wouldn't touch him. Imagine how difficult it will be for him when he actually has money and fame? No thanks!

The problem with Mallett is his lack of shiftiness in the pocket. He is going to get killed at the next level. It is not a speed issue, but an ability to sidestep guys, step up in the pocket or throw them off. QB's like Manning, Brady, Big Ben probably couldn't run the forty in under 5.25, but they have the ability to manipulate their body to avoid being tackled by rushers. I do not see Mallett having this skill, and I wouldn't trust him to lead the team once the frustration of the NFL (and it is a frustrating league), settles in. He wouldn't even be on my board. I see a horrific bust at the next level.

Thanks for the write up! I wonder why the Niners are brining him in this month? All I keep hearing is how accurate and strong his arm is. But you are right, if he can't escape pressure, he wont be able to throw the ball on his back.

That is indeed the big knock on Mallett. Escapability. As far as the drug thing, there has been zero evidence to believe there is any truth to that at this point.

Although Mallett can appear to be a terrifying prospect to many -- I know I'd shared my anxiety about him earlier this year -- he still has a great deal of raw ability. So although he has very marginal escapability, I have to believe some NFL team will look at him and think he could at least be a poor man's Bledsoe, Marino, or Flacco and will take him thinking his quick release and overall skill throwing the ball makes up for the lack of athleticism.

Personally, I always want a QB who is athletic enough not just to slide or get away from pressure, but to burn you with his legs running for first downs and touchdowns.

As always, excellent work OTC!

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:
OTC, what do you think of Mallet as a prospect?

There is no question Mallett can throw the football. He is quite possibly the best at ball placement among every QB in this entire draft. He can throw "the perfect pass" and that's an incredibly valuable trait. He also probably has the strongest arm in the country. However, the questions surrounding his maturity and ability to handle the limelight remain unanswered.

It depends on which GM is adequately convinced his alleged "character flaws" are not going surface in the NFL and affect the team. He has an arrest in his history , and he has been accused of having drug-related problems which he never directly confirmed or denied. That could be alarming. We'll find out soon enough if he passed his combine drug test.

His only major on-the-field flaws are his lack of athleticism -- as he's no legitimate threat to run -- and inconsistent accuracy on the move. But in my opinion he has decent enough feet to slide and avoid pressure long enough to make a play. I think he does have to be knocked down some because his accuracy on the move is inconsistent and on occasion when under heavy pressure he has not made smart throws.

Talent-wise, he's a first rounder, but I don't know if his attitude will rub his teammates the wrong way and if Mallett lands in the place where the team can't block for him at all, he'll do very poorly early on. I think overall he's a high 2nd rounder, but if a team likes his skill enough and think they can work around the other issues, they could ignore the risk and take him in the mid to late 1st.

Have you seen his combine press conference? I kept (and keep) hearing it was terrible and he was defensive, but when I watched it he sounded collected and mature. Add to that, he's spoken of extremely well by his coaches and teammates and is really made out to be the kind of leader I think we've been looking for around here. I really feel the character issues have been blown way out of proportion at this point.
... and just FYI, it was a public intoxication he was arrested for, not a DUI.

Whoops, I wrote this late, so forgive the little hiccup there. You're correct and a PI is much less of a deal than a DUI obviously.

As far as the character issues, the key word I put there before it was "alleged" -- that's the big thing. Like yourself, personally when I hear the guy I'm not sure what these other individuals are talking about. Where does he sound immature? Where has he seemed ignorant? When I mentioned his attitude in that last paragraph there, I should've used the word "supposed" before it.

The media's writings I believe have taken certain things he's said and blatantly and maliciously slanted them in my opinion, depicting him as some sort of arrogant neanderthal.

Mallett is no doubt a country boy, but he's not an idiot. He did get a 26 on the Wonderlic. If he had any drug issues, everyone would know because they test for those things at the combine. Like I said, as far as his play goes, he's a tremendous passer and aside from sometimes getting absolutely wild with the ball when under pressure, the only other issue would be his athleticism.

All that said, I still think there's a chance Mallett falls to the top of the 2nd if he gets past teams like Miami and Jacksonville. I don't think Seattle is a fit for Mallett, so unless someone decided to trade up, I think Mallett would then go to the Bills, Bengals or Cardinals.

Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Honestly, I'd have to say no. I don't think the 49ers will take Mallett and will likely have him lower on the board below Stanzi even. From what I gather, Harbaugh really wants a QB that can run. Some of the things we do on offense, Mallett is just not a fit for. You're not going to ever see him on a waggle or bootleg or designed roll-outs.

Having an athletic QB is huge in misdirection and play-action because you have to be concerned that the guy feasibly could tuck it and run on any given fake. The ability to freeze the defense like that is always a tremendous help to your team. Mallett doesn't really give a team that. It's not that he can't ever run, it's just.. he's not going to get very far, and he's not a legitimate threat to move the chains with his legs.

Originally posted by Butter:
Mad Dog, do you see him as "the next" Ryan Leaf?

I can't speak for MD, but in my own opinion, Mallett is nothing like Leaf. I don't he's anywhere near that kind of individual.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:


Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Honestly, I'd have to say no. I don't think the 49ers will take Mallett and will likely have him lower on the board below Stanzi even. From what I gather, Harbaugh really wants a QB that can run. Some of the things we do on offense, Mallett is just not a fit for. You're not going to ever see him on a waggle or bootleg or designed roll-outs.

Having an athletic QB is huge in misdirection and play-action because you have to be concerned that the guy feasibly could tuck it and run on any given fake. The ability to freeze the defense like that is always a tremendous help to your team. Mallett doesn't really give a team that. It's not that he can't ever run, it's just.. he's not going to get very far, and he's not a legitimate threat to move the chains with his legs.

Hmmmm . . . so the Niners couldn't use a Marino type player you think.

Quite possibly true. I know that multi dimensional QBs ( meaning those who can take off running) have an advantage, all other skills being equal. BTW I do believe that Mallet could handle designed roll out just fine; just not a designed running play. his footwork is excellent.

But Mallet is so good with his release and ball placement there's noone in this draft even close. That's worth a lot. A good coach will accomodate that. Shula did when he went from Griese to Marino (with a few years in between). Also P. Manning, Brady, Rivers aren't exactly threats with their running ability.

But I do hear you.

Then again, why did the Niners have him over for a visit if running ability was a prerequisite for them? Why waste the time? Please don't say it was a red herring; that just not credible. Just food for thought.

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:


Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Honestly, I'd have to say no. I don't think the 49ers will take Mallett and will likely have him lower on the board below Stanzi even. From what I gather, Harbaugh really wants a QB that can run. Some of the things we do on offense, Mallett is just not a fit for. You're not going to ever see him on a waggle or bootleg or designed roll-outs.

Having an athletic QB is huge in misdirection and play-action because you have to be concerned that the guy feasibly could tuck it and run on any given fake. The ability to freeze the defense like that is always a tremendous help to your team. Mallett doesn't really give a team that. It's not that he can't ever run, it's just.. he's not going to get very far, and he's not a legitimate threat to move the chains with his legs.

Hmmmm . . . so the Niners couldn't use a Marino type player you think.

Quite possibly true. I know that multi dimensional QBs ( meaning those who can take off running) have an advantage, all other skills being equal. BTW I do believe that Mallet could handle designed roll out just fine; just not a designed running play. his footwork is excellent.

But Mallet is so good with his release and ball placement there's noone in this draft even close. That's worth a lot. A good coach will accomodate that. Shula did when he went from Griese to Marino (with a few years in between). Also P. Manning, Brady, Rivers aren't exactly threats with their running ability.

But I do hear you.

Then again, why did the Niners have him over for a visit if running ability was a prerequisite for them? Why waste the time? Please don't say it was a red herring; that just not credible. Just food for thought.

They want to get a closer look at everybody they can and get as much info as possible on each player. It's no secret we need a QB, so we're going to do our due diligence on them all.

Now to address the other points, I'm not saying the 49ers would hate to have Mallett or something like that. I just think Mallett will be lower on the priority list for them. There's always that small chance he could wind up being the pick, sure, but I see others being higher up on the board, largely due to systematic preference.

Mallett's slow feet make it difficult to see him in a West Coast system, where timing is critical. He has a quick release, yes, but scouts note his footspeed leaves something to be desired. In the WCO, you've GOT to get in your drop and SET those feet QUICK and make that throw.

So despite the throwing ability, again, these things I think push him down the 49ers priority list. Hopefully I'm making some sense here.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:


Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Honestly, I'd have to say no. I don't think the 49ers will take Mallett and will likely have him lower on the board below Stanzi even. From what I gather, Harbaugh really wants a QB that can run. Some of the things we do on offense, Mallett is just not a fit for. You're not going to ever see him on a waggle or bootleg or designed roll-outs.

Having an athletic QB is huge in misdirection and play-action because you have to be concerned that the guy feasibly could tuck it and run on any given fake. The ability to freeze the defense like that is always a tremendous help to your team. Mallett doesn't really give a team that. It's not that he can't ever run, it's just.. he's not going to get very far, and he's not a legitimate threat to move the chains with his legs.

Hmmmm . . . so the Niners couldn't use a Marino type player you think.

Quite possibly true. I know that multi dimensional QBs ( meaning those who can take off running) have an advantage, all other skills being equal. BTW I do believe that Mallet could handle designed roll out just fine; just not a designed running play. his footwork is excellent.

But Mallet is so good with his release and ball placement there's noone in this draft even close. That's worth a lot. A good coach will accomodate that. Shula did when he went from Griese to Marino (with a few years in between). Also P. Manning, Brady, Rivers aren't exactly threats with their running ability.

But I do hear you.

Then again, why did the Niners have him over for a visit if running ability was a prerequisite for them? Why waste the time? Please don't say it was a red herring; that just not credible. Just food for thought.

They want to get a closer look at everybody they can and get as much info as possible on each player. It's no secret we need a QB, so we're going to do our due diligence on them all.

Now to address the other points, I'm not saying the 49ers would hate to have Mallett or something like that. I just think Mallett will be lower on the priority list for them. There's always that small chance he could wind up being the pick, sure, but I see others being higher up on the board, largely due to systematic preference.

Mallett's slow feet make it difficult to see him in a West Coast system, where timing is critical. He has a quick release, yes, but scouts note his footspeed leaves something to be desired. In the WCO, you've GOT to get in your drop and SET those feet QUICK and make that throw.

So despite the throwing ability, again, these things I think push him down the 49ers priority list. Hopefully I'm making some sense here.

No, absolutely you make sense.

I had not realized that he was SLOW IN DROPPING BACK AND PLANTING his feet. Which is different from straightline speed and did not seem that bad to me. But I'm pretty sure that you have seen more film on him than I have and I would trust your word on that. More so than "scouts"; some of whom say the most inaccurate made-up stuff (almost with an agenda to confuse).

Yes, you do need that smooth, efficient dropback to go with the quick release. The TIME it takes to drop back and plant is what's important. As tall as he is, he may not "look" as fast as the guys with shorter legs. But if he doesn't have both dropback and release, I would have to downgrade him.

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:
OTC, what do you think of Mallet as a prospect?

There is no question Mallett can throw the football. He is quite possibly the best at ball placement among every QB in this entire draft. He can throw "the perfect pass" and that's an incredibly valuable trait. He also probably has the strongest arm in the country. However, the questions surrounding his maturity and ability to handle the limelight remain unanswered.

It depends on which GM is adequately convinced his alleged "character flaws" are not going surface in the NFL and affect the team. He has an arrest in his history , and he has been accused of having drug-related problems which he never directly confirmed or denied. That could be alarming. We'll find out soon enough if he passed his combine drug test.

His only major on-the-field flaws are his lack of athleticism -- as he's no legitimate threat to run -- and inconsistent accuracy on the move. But in my opinion he has decent enough feet to slide and avoid pressure long enough to make a play. I think he does have to be knocked down some because his accuracy on the move is inconsistent and on occasion when under heavy pressure he has not made smart throws.

Talent-wise, he's a first rounder, but I don't know if his attitude will rub his teammates the wrong way and if Mallett lands in the place where the team can't block for him at all, he'll do very poorly early on. I think overall he's a high 2nd rounder, but if a team likes his skill enough and think they can work around the other issues, they could ignore the risk and take him in the mid to late 1st.

Have you seen his combine press conference? I kept (and keep) hearing it was terrible and he was defensive, but when I watched it he sounded collected and mature. Add to that, he's spoken of extremely well by his coaches and teammates and is really made out to be the kind of leader I think we've been looking for around here. I really feel the character issues have been blown way out of proportion at this point.
... and just FYI, it was a public intoxication he was arrested for, not a DUI.

Whoops, I wrote this late, so forgive the little hiccup there. You're correct and a PI is much less of a deal than a DUI obviously.

As far as the character issues, the key word I put there before it was "alleged" -- that's the big thing. Like yourself, personally when I hear the guy I'm not sure what these other individuals are talking about. Where does he sound immature? Where has he seemed ignorant? When I mentioned his attitude in that last paragraph there, I should've used the word "supposed" before it.

The media's writings I believe have taken certain things he's said and blatantly and maliciously slanted them in my opinion, depicting him as some sort of arrogant neanderthal.

Mallett is no doubt a country boy, but he's not an idiot. He did get a 26 on the Wonderlic. If he had any drug issues, everyone would know because they test for those things at the combine. Like I said, as far as his play goes, he's a tremendous passer and aside from sometimes getting absolutely wild with the ball when under pressure, the only other issue would be his athleticism.

All that said, I still think there's a chance Mallett falls to the top of the 2nd if he gets past teams like Miami and Jacksonville. I don't think Seattle is a fit for Mallett, so unless someone decided to trade up, I think Mallett would then go to the Bills, Bengals or Cardinals.

Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Absolutely, I agree with you there.

I actually see him as possibly the only elite-QB-in-waiting in this draft. As you say, his arm and in-your-face attitude are essential to get to that top tier.

Despite what some (one?) may say about his ability to sense the pressure, I don't see that. At this time there is no justification for saying that he cannot be at least as good at is as Brady. None whatsoever. He showed excellent awareness in college.

Yes he was wild at times. That can come from trying too hard. Putting too much on his shoulders. But that's what coaches are for; to coach that out of him.

If this kid goes to a team with decent coaches, he's going to be a star.

Mallett's most likely landing places are probably the following (in no particular order -- just numbered for the sake of looking organized):

1. Miami - Henne is simply not the guy for them.
2. Jacksonville - Garrard is very solid, but they could take him as a QBOTF if they think he'll be elite.
3. Arizona - Warner wasn't a threat to run either, and Mallett would appear to be a good fit here.
4. Tennessee - There is unlikely to be any QB at #8 worth taking.
5. Oakland (via trading up) - They lack a great option at QB and could like Mallett's potential.
6. Buffalo - Personally, I think Fitzpatrick is their guy. He's very young still and should do a much better job this coming year with more protection and perhaps some extra weapons (Bills badly need a TE, WR and OL help)


I now believe Newton and Gabbert will both go within the Top 4 to Carolina and Cincy.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:
OTC, what do you think of Mallet as a prospect?

There is no question Mallett can throw the football. He is quite possibly the best at ball placement among every QB in this entire draft. He can throw "the perfect pass" and that's an incredibly valuable trait. He also probably has the strongest arm in the country. However, the questions surrounding his maturity and ability to handle the limelight remain unanswered.

It depends on which GM is adequately convinced his alleged "character flaws" are not going surface in the NFL and affect the team. He has an arrest in his history , and he has been accused of having drug-related problems which he never directly confirmed or denied. That could be alarming. We'll find out soon enough if he passed his combine drug test.

His only major on-the-field flaws are his lack of athleticism -- as he's no legitimate threat to run -- and inconsistent accuracy on the move. But in my opinion he has decent enough feet to slide and avoid pressure long enough to make a play. I think he does have to be knocked down some because his accuracy on the move is inconsistent and on occasion when under heavy pressure he has not made smart throws.

Talent-wise, he's a first rounder, but I don't know if his attitude will rub his teammates the wrong way and if Mallett lands in the place where the team can't block for him at all, he'll do very poorly early on. I think overall he's a high 2nd rounder, but if a team likes his skill enough and think they can work around the other issues, they could ignore the risk and take him in the mid to late 1st.

Have you seen his combine press conference? I kept (and keep) hearing it was terrible and he was defensive, but when I watched it he sounded collected and mature. Add to that, he's spoken of extremely well by his coaches and teammates and is really made out to be the kind of leader I think we've been looking for around here. I really feel the character issues have been blown way out of proportion at this point.
... and just FYI, it was a public intoxication he was arrested for, not a DUI.

Whoops, I wrote this late, so forgive the little hiccup there. You're correct and a PI is much less of a deal than a DUI obviously.

As far as the character issues, the key word I put there before it was "alleged" -- that's the big thing. Like yourself, personally when I hear the guy I'm not sure what these other individuals are talking about. Where does he sound immature? Where has he seemed ignorant? When I mentioned his attitude in that last paragraph there, I should've used the word "supposed" before it.

The media's writings I believe have taken certain things he's said and blatantly and maliciously slanted them in my opinion, depicting him as some sort of arrogant neanderthal.

Mallett is no doubt a country boy, but he's not an idiot. He did get a 26 on the Wonderlic. If he had any drug issues, everyone would know because they test for those things at the combine. Like I said, as far as his play goes, he's a tremendous passer and aside from sometimes getting absolutely wild with the ball when under pressure, the only other issue would be his athleticism.

All that said, I still think there's a chance Mallett falls to the top of the 2nd if he gets past teams like Miami and Jacksonville. I don't think Seattle is a fit for Mallett, so unless someone decided to trade up, I think Mallett would then go to the Bills, Bengals or Cardinals.

Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Absolutely, I agree with you there.

I actually see him as possibly the only elite-QB-in-waiting in this draft. As you say, his arm and in-your-face attitude are essential to get to that top tier.

Despite what some (one?) may say about his ability to sense the pressure, I don't see that. At this time there is no justification for saying that he cannot be at least as good at is as Brady. None whatsoever. He showed excellent awareness in college.

Yes he was wild at times. That can come from trying too hard. Putting too much on his shoulders. But that's what coaches are for; to coach that out of him.

If this kid goes to a team with decent coaches, he's going to be a star.

Mallett's most likely landing places are probably the following (in no particular order -- just numbered for the sake of looking organized):

1. Miami - Henne is simply not the guy for them.
2. Jacksonville - Garrard is very solid, but they could take him as a QBOTF if they think he'll be elite.
3. Arizona - Warner wasn't a threat to run either, and Mallett would appear to be a good fit here.4. Tennessee - There is unlikely to be any QB at #8 worth taking.
5. Oakland (via trading up) - They lack a great option at QB and could like Mallett's potential.
6. Buffalo - Personally, I think Fitzpatrick is their guy. He's very young still and should do a much better job this coming year with more protection and perhaps some extra weapons (Bills badly need a TE, WR and OL help)


I now believe Newton and Gabbert will both go within the Top 4 to Carolina and Cincy.

Warner might be a perfect example of the type of QB Mallet could be. I dont think Warner was very fast or even elusive. He just had an increadible release, accuracy and ability to read coverage. I dont remember him escaping too many hits. He would just stand in the pocket and deliver the ball at the last second and still get pummelled.

Anyway, what round do you think Mallet will land in. Based on what your saying I can't imagin him going much past the end of the second or begining of the 3rd.

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OTC, what do you think of Mallet as a prospect?

There is no question Mallett can throw the football. He is quite possibly the best at ball placement among every QB in this entire draft. He can throw "the perfect pass" and that's an incredibly valuable trait. He also probably has the strongest arm in the country. However, the questions surrounding his maturity and ability to handle the limelight remain unanswered.

It depends on which GM is adequately convinced his alleged "character flaws" are not going surface in the NFL and affect the team. He has an arrest in his history , and he has been accused of having drug-related problems which he never directly confirmed or denied. That could be alarming. We'll find out soon enough if he passed his combine drug test.

His only major on-the-field flaws are his lack of athleticism -- as he's no legitimate threat to run -- and inconsistent accuracy on the move. But in my opinion he has decent enough feet to slide and avoid pressure long enough to make a play. I think he does have to be knocked down some because his accuracy on the move is inconsistent and on occasion when under heavy pressure he has not made smart throws.

Talent-wise, he's a first rounder, but I don't know if his attitude will rub his teammates the wrong way and if Mallett lands in the place where the team can't block for him at all, he'll do very poorly early on. I think overall he's a high 2nd rounder, but if a team likes his skill enough and think they can work around the other issues, they could ignore the risk and take him in the mid to late 1st.

Have you seen his combine press conference? I kept (and keep) hearing it was terrible and he was defensive, but when I watched it he sounded collected and mature. Add to that, he's spoken of extremely well by his coaches and teammates and is really made out to be the kind of leader I think we've been looking for around here. I really feel the character issues have been blown way out of proportion at this point.
... and just FYI, it was a public intoxication he was arrested for, not a DUI.

Whoops, I wrote this late, so forgive the little hiccup there. You're correct and a PI is much less of a deal than a DUI obviously.

As far as the character issues, the key word I put there before it was "alleged" -- that's the big thing. Like yourself, personally when I hear the guy I'm not sure what these other individuals are talking about. Where does he sound immature? Where has he seemed ignorant? When I mentioned his attitude in that last paragraph there, I should've used the word "supposed" before it.

The media's writings I believe have taken certain things he's said and blatantly and maliciously slanted them in my opinion, depicting him as some sort of arrogant neanderthal.

Mallett is no doubt a country boy, but he's not an idiot. He did get a 26 on the Wonderlic. If he had any drug issues, everyone would know because they test for those things at the combine. Like I said, as far as his play goes, he's a tremendous passer and aside from sometimes getting absolutely wild with the ball when under pressure, the only other issue would be his athleticism.

All that said, I still think there's a chance Mallett falls to the top of the 2nd if he gets past teams like Miami and Jacksonville. I don't think Seattle is a fit for Mallett, so unless someone decided to trade up, I think Mallett would then go to the Bills, Bengals or Cardinals.

Do you think there's any chance Harbaugh could use a guy like him? I know Jim Harbaugh signed off on his brother drafting Joe Flacco, another big, big-armed QB. That being said, Flacco is more athletic than Mallet I would think.

I just think Mallet with his arm (power and ball placement) and his knack for "out-working everyone" is an elite QB waiting to happen. My favorite part is that he'll speak up when one of his teammates isn't getting it done. He expects to himself and everyone else to be perfect. A QB like that sounds so tempting after the meeker Alex Smith.

Absolutely, I agree with you there.

I actually see him as possibly the only elite-QB-in-waiting in this draft. As you say, his arm and in-your-face attitude are essential to get to that top tier.

Despite what some (one?) may say about his ability to sense the pressure, I don't see that. At this time there is no justification for saying that he cannot be at least as good at is as Brady. None whatsoever. He showed excellent awareness in college.

Yes he was wild at times. That can come from trying too hard. Putting too much on his shoulders. But that's what coaches are for; to coach that out of him.

If this kid goes to a team with decent coaches, he's going to be a star.

Mallett's most likely landing places are probably the following (in no particular order -- just numbered for the sake of looking organized):

1. Miami - Henne is simply not the guy for them.
2. Jacksonville - Garrard is very solid, but they could take him as a QBOTF if they think he'll be elite.
3. Arizona - Warner wasn't a threat to run either, and Mallett would appear to be a good fit here.4. Tennessee - There is unlikely to be any QB at #8 worth taking.
5. Oakland (via trading up) - They lack a great option at QB and could like Mallett's potential.
6. Buffalo - Personally, I think Fitzpatrick is their guy. He's very young still and should do a much better job this coming year with more protection and perhaps some extra weapons (Bills badly need a TE, WR and OL help)


I now believe Newton and Gabbert will both go within the Top 4 to Carolina and Cincy.

Warner might be a perfect example of the type of QB Mallet could be. I dont think Warner was very fast or even elusive. He just had an increadible release, accuracy and ability to read coverage. I dont remember him escaping too many hits. He would just stand in the pocket and deliver the ball at the last second and still get pummelled.

Anyway, what round do you think Mallet will land in. Based on what your saying I can't imagin him going much past the end of the second or begining of the 3rd.

Correct -- I think there's no chance he falls out of the 2nd. Too much talent there.