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Trading back

What do you guys think of trading back for more 2nd and 3rd or 4th round picks. We could target Von Miller, DeAndre McDaniel, or a guy like Rahim Moore. Or a guy like Julio Jones or Justin Blackmon, depending on the 40 times they run. Heck we could probably land Locker toward the 18-20 area if we really wanted to take a QB. We already have 10 picks, but the 3 extra ones are 4th round and beyond. If we could get to 12-13 picks, it could really help us restock the talent on the roster and fill some needs. We could take a flyer on a QB or 2, we could add a speed WR, a potential NT, etc. Thoughs?
no we really need to draft Prince. Our CB situation is crap and he would help out a lot.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:
What do you guys think of trading back for more 2nd and 3rd or 4th round picks. We could target Von Miller, DeAndre McDaniel, or a guy like Rahim Moore. Or a guy like Julio Jones or Justin Blackmon, depending on the 40 times they run. Heck we could probably land Locker toward the 18-20 area if we really wanted to take a QB. We already have 10 picks, but the 3 extra ones are 4th round and beyond. If we could get to 12-13 picks, it could really help us restock the talent on the roster and fill some needs. We could take a flyer on a QB or 2, we could add a speed WR, a potential NT, etc. Thoughs?

I agree with BackOnTop, if Prince is there, he would drastically help out. With that said, If were guaranteed to be able to draft Von Miller, or Ayers and we could get an extra 2nd round pick, I'd be all for trading back because each of those pass rush specialist will help our secondary DRASTICALLY.

Von Miller plays OLB in a 3-4 defense already so the comparisons to Manny Lawson need to stop before they even get started. He is a MONSTER pass rusher but it will be taking a chance of trading back to get him. Like I said, if there was a way to GUARANTEE trading back for an extra 2nd and still landing Von, I'd be all for it.

That way we could easily package one of our 2nd's and one of our 4th's to move up into the 1st round and grab either the best WR that falls (Blackmon) or QB that falls and then with our early original 2nd round pick, draft the opposite of what we drafted when we moved into the 1st round, if that is not too confusing .

So after all those words, I guess I'm trying to say "it all depends"
Originally posted by backontop:
no we really need to draft Prince. Our CB situation is crap and he would help out a lot.

i agree. i really like Prince and if we draft him we could move Nate to safety or release him
Yea trading back always sounds good on paper but it rarely works out that all the guys you want will be sitting there. And the need at CB or OLB are way to pressing to be letting 1st round talent slip away.
if we could somehow know we could land a defensive player by trading back and also picking up an extra second or so there would be a lot of quality CB in the 2nd.

none at this moment could be considered immediately great like peterson or prince SHOULD be
With this draft I like the idea of trading back, unless a can't miss player is available. I've heard knocks on almost every player this year and Luck isn't coming out, so trading up doesn't make sense. The team should trade back at the top and up from the bottom--fewer picks but more quality. If they can concentrate picks in rounds 2-4 they could bring in a number of quality guys.

Don't like depending on the draft for starters so would want FAs if available and willing. That will depend on the quality of the coaches coming in though.
man, i want me some Patrick Peterson!
I'm all for it and have posted a mock using this model.

We used to do this kind of thing when we we're good and look at the Pat's they do it all the time.

We have alot of holes to fill and this will be a very deep draft. It makes sense to get more picks, it gives us a better chance of getting at least a couple of guys who can step in and make a difference. We've missed alot on high draft picks and its not a sure thing so I'd rather have more picks than a few high picks.

Although, with Luck staying in school, it makes it more likely that Locker will go higher in the draft order now and if we want him we will probably need to pull the trigger with the 7th pick.
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea trading back always sounds good on paper but it rarely works out that all the guys you want will be sitting there. And the need at CB or OLB are way to pressing to be letting 1st round talent slip away.

Agreed, especially when we already have a sheeyat load of draft picks (10 and counting). If anything, we trade up to grab 2 second rounders by using some of their later picks.
As it happens, there are currently 5 prospects that I would be very happy for SF to draft at #7... and a few more that I would smile over, but not dance over. So if one of the 5 is there, I would stay put and select him. If not, trading back is an option I would consider. There are quite a few late 1st and 2nd round options that would please me in a trade back.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea trading back always sounds good on paper but it rarely works out that all the guys you want will be sitting there. And the need at CB or OLB are way to pressing to be letting 1st round talent slip away.

Agreed, especially when we already have a sheeyat load of draft picks (10 and counting). If anything, we trade up to grab 2 second rounders by using some of their later picks.

Why do you think the Pats always trade back? They always get more picks the following year. If value ain't there trade back.
Originally posted by Norwalks_Best:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea trading back always sounds good on paper but it rarely works out that all the guys you want will be sitting there. And the need at CB or OLB are way to pressing to be letting 1st round talent slip away.

Agreed, especially when we already have a sheeyat load of draft picks (10 and counting). If anything, we trade up to grab 2 second rounders by using some of their later picks.

Why do you think the Pats always trade back? They always get more picks the following year. If value ain't there trade back.

But the Niners are nowhere near the level of the Pats talent wise. The Pats can afford to do that. And the 08 and 09 drafts they missed on almost every pick b/c the talent isn't always there when you trade back. They hit on some good players in the 2010 draft. But the best 2 players they have drafted over the last 3 years were McCourty, and Mayo 2 1st rounders.
I'd trade down if Prince Amukamara and Marcell Dareus are gone. The most pressing need is getting a QB and it wouldn't hurt to trade and try to getting another 2nd round pick so they can use a 3rd round pick to go after McNabb, Orton, or Kolb.
I'm on the trade-down bandwagon if we're really going to try and draft a QB. I'm not sure any of them are really worth a look in the top 10 to be honest.

Didn't I read somewhere that this draft was pretty loaded at the CB position? I could be wrong.

I'd just rather trade down into the mid-teens or twenties, take a QB and pick up some extra picks to use in the earlier rounds. This draft will be interesting, that's for damn sure.