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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

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Originally posted by Kolohe:

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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

I love reading your posts, it's the best laugh I get all day. Enough with this "superior" team argument and your "he only can make a play when he has tons of time" argument. Luck get's the ball out quick because he can read a defense and identify the open man. That's how it works in a pro style offense. He's got plenty athletic ability for the QB position, go watch his 52 yard run vs. Wake Forest. Locker's got more athletic ability, but you don't need Mike Vick running ability to identify an open receiver and deliver an accurate pass consistently; things Luck can do but Locker struggles with.

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

I love reading your posts, it's the best laugh I get all day. Enough with this "superior" team argument and your "he only can make a play when he has tons of time" argument. Luck get's the ball out quick because he can read a defense and identify the open man. That's how it works in a pro style offense. He's got plenty athletic ability for the QB position, go watch his 52 yard run vs. Wake Forest. Locker's got more athletic ability, but you don't need Mike Vick running ability to identify an open receiver and deliver an accurate pass consistently; things Luck can do but Locker struggles with.

He gets it out quick because he can't throw deep... They don't throw the deep ball because they can't. One run against Wake Forest doesn't make you a great athlete...

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he is a smart player good game manager and very accurate passer (doesnt really have good arm)

he will never be the peyton manning or drew brrees type of player getting 300 yds 2tds a game but he will be a consisant qb with off the charts intangibiles

But he seems to have good leadership skills. Pro system. So basically he might be more ready to play then bradford, but he's ceiling isn't as high.

I would take a QB like Luck any day. He is poised and tough for a kid his age, extremely accurate with his short and intermediate routes even while on the move. He has good pocket awareness and uses his legs to avoid the rush. You can see a lot of that running ability when Stanford runs designed roll outs.

Luck already runs the pro-style offense so he knows all the 3-5-7 step drops, already shows great footwork and quick reads/release. Most I like about Luck is that he makes smart choices and delivers an accurate pass even when under pressure.

I hope they don't repeat mistake of passing on Rodgers. if they have a chance to get Luck they should go for it. I think the knocks on Luck are very similar to when Rodgers was coming out. Not athletic enough, not big enough arm, already reach his ceiling etc.

Accuracy, quick reads and pocket awareness is good enough to reach the upper levels of the NFL QBs. Just look at guys like Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana . Those guys never had the best legs or arms, but that didn't matter for them since they possessed all the traits i mentioned.

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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

I love reading your posts, it's the best laugh I get all day. Enough with this "superior" team argument and your "he only can make a play when he has tons of time" argument. Luck get's the ball out quick because he can read a defense and identify the open man. That's how it works in a pro style offense. He's got plenty athletic ability for the QB position, go watch his 52 yard run vs. Wake Forest. Locker's got more athletic ability, but you don't need Mike Vick running ability to identify an open receiver and deliver an accurate pass consistently; things Luck can do but Locker struggles with.

He gets it out quick because he can't throw deep... They don't throw the deep ball because they can't. One run against Wake Forest doesn't make you a great athlete...

Okay, so SD, for THE RECORD

Do you think Locker will be a better NFL QB than Luck?

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Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SourdoughDan:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

I love reading your posts, it's the best laugh I get all day. Enough with this "superior" team argument and your "he only can make a play when he has tons of time" argument. Luck get's the ball out quick because he can read a defense and identify the open man. That's how it works in a pro style offense. He's got plenty athletic ability for the QB position, go watch his 52 yard run vs. Wake Forest. Locker's got more athletic ability, but you don't need Mike Vick running ability to identify an open receiver and deliver an accurate pass consistently; things Luck can do but Locker struggles with.

He gets it out quick because he can't throw deep... They don't throw the deep ball because they can't. One run against Wake Forest doesn't make you a great athlete...

Ok, so 250 rush yards is not good enough? The ability to evade the pass rusher? It's obvious you don't watch the game. Yes, Locker is the better athlete and he has the stronger arm, but Luck is the better QB. He's more accurate, more poised, better footwork, reads defenses better, and he makes quick decisions. He has completed 8.6 yards per attempt this season and has proven he can complete the pass 30-40 yards down the field.

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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

Thank God your not the GM...because Locker is hot garbage and should have come out this year...he's not going in the first next year...hell he might not even go in the 2nd.

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I would take a QB like Luck any day. He is poised and tough for a kid his age, extremely accurate with his short and intermediate routes even while on the move. He has good pocket awareness and uses his legs to avoid the rush. You can see a lot of that running ability when Stanford runs designed roll outs.

Luck already runs the pro-style offense so he knows all the 3-5-7 step drops, already shows great footwork and quick reads/release. Most I like about Luck is that he makes smart choices and delivers an accurate pass even when under pressure.

I hope they don't repeat mistake of passing on Rodgers. if they have a chance to get Luck they should go for it. I think the knocks on Luck are very similar to when Rodgers was coming out. Not athletic enough, not big enough arm, already reach his ceiling etc.

Accuracy, quick reads and pocket awareness is good enough to reach the upper levels of the NFL QBs. Just look at guys like Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana . Those guys never had the best legs or arms, but that didn't matter for them since they possessed all the traits i mentioned.

aaron had 5 years behind favre...that's the best preparation you can ever get in the nfl. u guys try to compare a qb with 5 years behind a hof-veteran with a qb who will have to start immediately.

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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

Thank God your not the GM...because Locker is hot garbage and should have come out this year...he's not going in the first next year...hell he might not even go in the 2nd.

Lets review again what I said for those who didn't read it...

1) Locker is the better athlete.
2) Locker has the stronger arm.
3) Locker is on the worse team by far.
4) Luck is on the better team by far.

Which of those is not true?

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He throws an accurate ball if given LOTS of time to throw. And his arm is not real strong. He's not super athletic although he's not a terrible athlete either. His release at times can be slow. He's far from the sure thing Peyton Manning he is portrayed to be here on the WZ. His release is nowhere near that good and his arm is not that strong (compared to Peyton).

People here think he is the second coming of Peyton Manning but I'm not sold on that as a guarantee. They like him because he is the popular Bay Area prospect. And they probably follow him at Stanford and cheer for him.

Don't get me wrong. I think he can be good. But every good play I've ever seen him make was with lots of time to throw. You know our QB won't have time.

I don't who has been comparing him to Peyton around here, but he looks a lot more like Eli. As far as your criticisms, his release is what college football analysts have been speaking highly of. He also takes a lot of three step drops because of the west coast type of offense that they run. Lot of slants and short ins and outs. But his deep throws are not terrible either. He also throws well on the run. His o-line does tend to break down and he ends up making plays with his feet.

Its pretty obvious that it will be San Diego's first time watching Luck this Saturday!!!!

But right on 69er, you hit the nail on the head.

I've watched him plenty of times and seen him in person too. He's a very poor mans Matt Schaub. He's no Peyton Manning...

A poor man's Schaub?

He is wayyyy better then Schaub at this point in his career. I used the comparison based on their skill set/strengths/weaknesses. But Luck is a much improved version of Schaub, which is why people are drooling over him.

He's stiff and unathletic. The only good throws I've ever seen him make are with LOTS of time. We know our line doesn't provide lots of time. He's far from a sure thing Peyton Manning that he is made out to be.

I don't see the Matt Schaub comparison either. Like I said countless times, Luck looks like a more athletic Eli Manning. And to say that he's stiff and unathletic makes me question if you've even watched him play for more than five minutes. The guy continually makes plays on his feet because his line does break down. Besides, Stanford's line is not great. It's not like they have top prospects on that line. The only reason you think he has "lots of time" is because Luck makes quick reads, has the quick release, and/or he's coming from the three step drop.

He has lots of time because his line is good... And he rarely makes a good play of something breaks down.

Watch all of his highlights from this year and the ball is out in under 3 seconds the vast majority of the time. You're insane...

Because all he can throw is short routes. He doesn't have a deep arm...

I'd like to know which QBs in CFB this year you rank ahead of Luck.

Locker is the better athlete by far. Stonger arm and much more athletic running. He's on the worse team though. Luck's team is superior. But that doesn't necessarily make him superior IMO.

Thank God your not the GM...because Locker is hot garbage and should have come out this year...he's not going in the first next year...hell he might not even go in the 2nd.

Lets review again what I said for those who didn't read it...

1) Locker is the better athlete.
2) Locker has the stronger arm.
3) Locker is on the worse team by far.
4) Luck is on the better team by far.

Which of those is not true?

Troy Smith is an amazing athlete with a very strong arm, does that make him a good QB?