Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by mayo63:
Don't worry, jr80 NickBradely is kind of hard headed.
Davis/Bulaga would have been equivelant to drafting two OT/OGs!
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why not just draft the best C and play him wherever you want
lol
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Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by mayo63:
Don't worry, jr80 NickBradely is kind of hard headed.
Davis/Bulaga would have been equivelant to drafting two OT/OGs!
Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
Did you see how quickly Miami traded OUT of their spot after we jumped over them?
They did it cause they are not solid across their Line and Davis is a stud. If they were after someone else or they thought they could get a better offer(they could have since they went WAY down) they would have sat on it til at least the 3 minute mark was left on the clock. But soon as we jumped over them they pulled the trigger. They wanted Davis. Mark my words on that. They wanted him and instead we got him. I'd waste a 3rd rounder for that kind of reaction any day of the year. That was EPIC.
~Ceadder
That was my assumption. It was REALLY quick. And knowing now how for Bulaga fell, it's obvious that Davis was the better pick.
Originally posted by dmax:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
Did you see how quickly Miami traded OUT of their spot after we jumped over them?
They did it cause they are not solid across their Line and Davis is a stud. If they were after someone else or they thought they could get a better offer(they could have since they went WAY down) they would have sat on it til at least the 3 minute mark was left on the clock. But soon as we jumped over them they pulled the trigger. They wanted Davis. Mark my words on that. They wanted him and instead we got him. I'd waste a 3rd rounder for that kind of reaction any day of the year. That was EPIC.
~Ceadder
That was my assumption. It was REALLY quick. And knowing now how for Bulaga fell, it's obvious that Davis was the better pick.
exactly! miami wanted davis
Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by dmax:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
Did you see how quickly Miami traded OUT of their spot after we jumped over them?
They did it cause they are not solid across their Line and Davis is a stud. If they were after someone else or they thought they could get a better offer(they could have since they went WAY down) they would have sat on it til at least the 3 minute mark was left on the clock. But soon as we jumped over them they pulled the trigger. They wanted Davis. Mark my words on that. They wanted him and instead we got him. I'd waste a 3rd rounder for that kind of reaction any day of the year. That was EPIC.
~Ceadder
That was my assumption. It was REALLY quick. And knowing now how for Bulaga fell, it's obvious that Davis was the better pick.
exactly! miami wanted davis
Miami didn't want Davis. They wanted to recoup that 2nd rounder they lost when they traded for Marshall.
I'm convinced Davis would have been there at 17 and may have fallen past Buluga in GB. Other than Pittsburgh there really wasn't any teams looking for OL.
Originally posted by btthepunk:
I would bet that all 32 teams had Iupati rated higher than Bulaga. One of the guys on NFLN said that the Steelers were angry because they were set on Iupati. Just because Bulaga played guard doesn't mean he can do it better than Iupati. And with your thinking if Davis doesn't work at RT then move him inside since a lot of people think Iupati can be a very good RT.
Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:Originally posted by BrianGO:Originally posted by Ninerbowl6:
Iupati is so underrated on this board he kicked ass at the senior bowl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1I9VDf1bFI
When the scouts eyes leave, your eyes enter.
Iupati dominated at the Senior Bowl practices against All-Stars. That's all the scouts care to watch.
ok im tired of this
for the last time iupati played RT at senior bowl when he was a LG he dominated in practice as an LG and he will be p[laying LG for us
Originally posted by Rsrkshn:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
I concur with everything said.
My feeling is that we blinked when a more studly group would have stood tight. I'm very disappointed that we gave up a pick in a very DEEP draft to jump pver one team (miami), when both teams ahead of us were not in need of an OT. I know the Niners made the standard excuse: "We were afraid someone else would jump ahead of us". Yea, right! Just didn't have the nerve, or ability to analyze what was going on.
It's just plain disingenuous to say that something was wrong with Bulaga ('thoughhe did have that Thyroid problem) and that is why he fell. I'm sure some teams had him rated higher. Davis is NOT perfect. Interesting that Green Bay picked him up (They needed a OT also, but held their ground). There are a lot of highly rated OTs still out there, no need to panic. Shades of Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers (there was something terribly wrong with Rodgers too, right?). Will be interesting to see how Bulaga works out for them versus Davis for us. GBs offensive line has been worse that ours.
We needed to be accumulating picks not giving them away unneccesarily.
Nick: I just knew that you would stir up a hornets nest by bringing this up. I, of course, totally understand the point you are making and I do agree with you. But the homies on this site are so myopic, it's almost not worth the effort to present another point of view. This is supposed to be a DISCUSSION board, but more and more it's becoming dominated by people who just "don't want to know" or discuss anything in a civil manner.
What people are failing to recognized is that you and me (and several others who are silent) are PERFECTLY HAPPY with the way things have gone . . . we just feel that things could have been better. The possibiltites were there, that's all that's being discussed.
I stand for being totally against unnecessarily giving away picks in a deep draft. I believe that we did that yesterday. It has severely limited the team's ability to fill critical needs. Cornerback, for sure. Pass rusher (unless you think Laboy is the answer . . . I don't). Game-breaker is going to have to wait until next year.
Originally posted by WINiner:Originally posted by Rsrkshn:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
I concur with everything said.
My feeling is that we blinked when a more studly group would have stood tight. I'm very disappointed that we gave up a pick in a very DEEP draft to jump pver one team (miami), when both teams ahead of us were not in need of an OT. I know the Niners made the standard excuse: "We were afraid someone else would jump ahead of us". Yea, right! Just didn't have the nerve, or ability to analyze what was going on.
It's just plain disingenuous to say that something was wrong with Bulaga ('thoughhe did have that Thyroid problem) and that is why he fell. I'm sure some teams had him rated higher. Davis is NOT perfect. Interesting that Green Bay picked him up (They needed a OT also, but held their ground). There are a lot of highly rated OTs still out there, no need to panic. Shades of Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers (there was something terribly wrong with Rodgers too, right?). Will be interesting to see how Bulaga works out for them versus Davis for us. GBs offensive line has been worse that ours.
We needed to be accumulating picks not giving them away unneccesarily.
Nick: I just knew that you would stir up a hornets nest by bringing this up. I, of course, totally understand the point you are making and I do agree with you. But the homies on this site are so myopic, it's almost not worth the effort to present another point of view. This is supposed to be a DISCUSSION board, but more and more it's becoming dominated by people who just "don't want to know" or discuss anything in a civil manner.
What people are failing to recognized is that you and me (and several others who are silent) are PERFECTLY HAPPY with the way things have gone . . . we just feel that things could have been better. The possibiltites were there, that's all that's being discussed.
I stand for being totally against unnecessarily giving away picks in a deep draft. I believe that we did that yesterday. It has severely limited the team's ability to fill critical needs. Cornerback, for sure. Pass rusher (unless you think Laboy is the answer . . . I don't). Game-breaker is going to have to wait until next year.
Exactly how many roster spots do you think are open for rookies coming out of this draft? Would a 4th rounder even made the roster?
If the FO thought there was the possibility that someone was going to trade ahead of them for the guy they think will help solidify the line, then they acted responsibly. Whether they were right is yet to be determined.
Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by dmax:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by Ceadderman:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by bigtony2tone:
Why would anyone rather project a high floor/low ceiling OT to OG over the consensus BEST OG in the draft? Why man? Stop it now! I'd understand maybe if we'd picked Pouncey instead. But we're talking about Iupati-----an absolute stud!
Happy with the picks...would have been happier with Bulaga -- maximizes the likelihood of a stud RT.
I'll admit I really REALLY wanted Bulaga. But I understand why Davis was the pick. Much higher ceiling player. I am still confused why we traded up for him though. Seems like a waste of a 4th round pick.
Did you see how quickly Miami traded OUT of their spot after we jumped over them?
They did it cause they are not solid across their Line and Davis is a stud. If they were after someone else or they thought they could get a better offer(they could have since they went WAY down) they would have sat on it til at least the 3 minute mark was left on the clock. But soon as we jumped over them they pulled the trigger. They wanted Davis. Mark my words on that. They wanted him and instead we got him. I'd waste a 3rd rounder for that kind of reaction any day of the year. That was EPIC.
~Ceadder
That was my assumption. It was REALLY quick. And knowing now how for Bulaga fell, it's obvious that Davis was the better pick.
exactly! miami wanted davis
Miami didn't want Davis. They wanted to recoup that 2nd rounder they lost when they traded for Marshall.
I'm convinced Davis would have been there at 17 and may have fallen past Buluga in GB. Other than Pittsburgh there really wasn't any teams looking for OL.
With your knowledge of the other nfl teams draft boards could you enlighten us who might be available at our next pick?
Seriously you have no f**king idea how nfl scouts actually viewed him. What I do know is that both Denver and Miami were actively trying to trade down and that Davis was the player the Niners were targeting and really wanted.
Originally posted by nickbradley:Originally posted by Schulzy:
Iupati is a guard, Bulaga would be a converted guard.
You can't be serious can you?
Dude, Bulaga IS a converted guard -- he played OG at Iowa before sliding over to OT.