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Mardy Gilyard

I dont care what we have to do to get this guy but we need to get him... Who is on board with me faithfuls?
If we don't draft Spiller, he'd be a great pick in the 2nd round.
I like him as a college player, but I don't see him as a 2nd round prospect. His return abilities work in his favor, but he looks like a mid rounder to me. I have doubts about his ability to contribute early. I'm know I'm a minority in this, but I think he has a lot going against him in the pros.
Originally posted by strickac:
I like him as a college player, but I don't see him as a 2nd round prospect. His return abilities work in his favor, but he looks like a mid rounder to me. I have doubts about his ability to contribute early. I'm know I'm a minority in this, but I think he has a lot going against him in the pros.

like what? ...out of curiosity. i like him but i'm not pro scout...
Originally posted by jreff22:

Can't see us drafting a WR early, our return specialist is probably gonna be a RB or DB.
im on this

much better PR than spiller and he is very good KR as well
The guy reminds me of a Chris Johnson, just the way he moves and how quick he is, everyone seems slower. Even in the senior bowl he was just flying by everyone. I dunno if we are going after a kick returner than I say this should be the guy they look at. Plus we dont have to spend a first rounder on him, we can grab a better DB and a better OL with those picks, running backs are a dime a dozen these days. hence Ray Rice, Pierre Thomas.,
Would be a nice punt returner.
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:
Originally posted by strickac:
I like him as a college player, but I don't see him as a 2nd round prospect. His return abilities work in his favor, but he looks like a mid rounder to me. I have doubts about his ability to contribute early. I'm know I'm a minority in this, but I think he has a lot going against him in the pros.

like what? ...out of curiosity. i like him but i'm not pro scout...

I don't claim to be a scout either, by any means. Gilyard's size worries me though. He seems tough for his size, but I think physical CBs in the NFL will give him some trouble. Most young WRs struggle getting off the line, so with such a small frame, that could be an issue for him. Also, a lot of his success came from either really short throws (Cincy liked to throw WR screens to him) or something deep, which makes me wonder about his route running. I just think that the way he was used in college and the physical differences in the NFL are going to make his transition a slow one.

There's a lot to like about him though. He has really nice hands and he's a legit deep threat because of his speed. I think his best attribute is his return skills. He's accelerates very qucikly and can break a KO or punt return anytime he touches it.

It's not that I'm against drafting him. I just have concerns about drafting really small players. McCluster is another guy that I like, but wouldn't touch in the 2nd. I know DeSean Jackson is the counter argument, but he's a rare find. He was electric in college and his size was enough to scare some teams off.
Originally posted by strickac:
Originally posted by 9erHIGH:
Originally posted by strickac:
I like him as a college player, but I don't see him as a 2nd round prospect. His return abilities work in his favor, but he looks like a mid rounder to me. I have doubts about his ability to contribute early. I'm know I'm a minority in this, but I think he has a lot going against him in the pros.

like what? ...out of curiosity. i like him but i'm not pro scout...

I don't claim to be a scout either, by any means. Gilyard's size worries me though. He seems tough for his size, but I think physical CBs in the NFL will give him some trouble. Most young WRs struggle getting off the line, so with such a small frame, that could be an issue for him. Also, a lot of his success came from either really short throws (Cincy liked to throw WR screens to him) or something deep, which makes me wonder about his route running. I just think that the way he was used in college and the physical differences in the NFL are going to make his transition a slow one.

There's a lot to like about him though. He has really nice hands and he's a legit deep threat because of his speed. I think his best attribute is his return skills. He's accelerates very qucikly and can break a KO or punt return anytime he touches it.

It's not that I'm against drafting him. I just have concerns about drafting really small players. McCluster is another guy that I like, but wouldn't touch in the 2nd. I know DeSean Jackson is the counter argument, but he's a rare find. He was electric in college and his size was enough to scare some teams off.

i know what you mean about a lot of college WRs having trouble getting off the LOS.
there aree several factors that would lead me to think it wouldnt be much of
an issue for him in the way we would want to use him.

1. his main role would be as KR/PR

2. he would typically be working against #3 CBs in the slot. i dont often see
#3CBs in the slot asked to play press coverage. they usually arent that good at it
which is often part of why they are #3CBs, and there is too much space to defend.

3. as you said, he is tough for his size, and he wouldnt be that undersized
vs most #3CBs.

4. often times, slot WRs are put in motion especially early in their careers,
making it nearly impossible to jam.

5. I REALLY LIKE HIS FEET, and typically when a guy has really good feet,
and he is playing off the LOS like he would in the slot, that's all the room he needs
to defeat a press.

6. knowing his life story, i have a lot of faith he will have the work ethic
to take whatever talent he has, and make the absolute most out of it.
that kind of thing usually translates VERY WELL into making a real pro.


i do know what you mean tho, and i would hesitate to draft an undersized player,
but i just wouldn't see it being an issue given those circumstances, and using
a 2nd round pick on him.
I like him...the only problem I see is he's a very good WR...and has a smallish frame. I just have to wonder if returning kicks in the NFL would be detrimental to his health. With someone like Spiller, he's used to taking the hits in the KR game largely because he's battle tested as a premier RB. WR's can make good PR's, but not sure about KO returning.
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I'm hearing no way Bengals sign T.O. More likely draft Mardy Gilyard, maybe 1st rd. Love Gilyard. 2 yrs. ago at Okla., best player on field.

I'd rather have Taylor Price or Jacoby Ford

[ Edited by Butter on Mar 1, 2010 at 11:00:34 ]