Originally posted by TX9R:Originally posted by SF69ers:Originally posted by WillistheWall:Originally posted by SF69ers:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by WillistheWall:Originally posted by susweel:
Dont like it, we need a real RT in the first round. No more of these tweener type of players.
cosigned. Too high to take Iupati IMO. Not a huge fan honestly.
After one game he's fallen out of favor with so many. It's just plain silly.
For others that have seen him play over the course of the year, and watched him easily be the most dominant lineman in practices-- and that includes against Brandon Graham, whom everybody loves, it's clear he's a special player.
Busts have had great Senior Bowls, and good players have had very poor Senior Bowls. I'll take what I have consistently seen in Iupati over an entire season and an entire week of practice over a single game -- a game where he was moved all over the place, to add.
I've been making the same exact argument in the "Selecting 2 O-linemen" thread. I agree completely, but don't let it get to you OTC. That's all webzone talk, we should be used to it by now. If I remember correctly, no one really talked about selecting Brandon Graham in the 1st until the Senior Bowl. After his performance, "he's a must in the 1st". I just don't get some people sometimes.
After seeing Graham play a lot I've wanted him since middle of the college season. He's going to be a f**king beast whether he has the super measurables or not, just cuz he wasn't on all of yours draft radar in the 1st until then doesn't mean he wasn't on mine! I always knew he was going to be a beast. I'm sure of it. The guy made plays in games through double and tripple teams. He's a beast. BEAST.
I've been a huge fan of Graham's since last season. He has reminded me a lot of Lamar Woodley and I was a big supporter in drafting him as well. The only reason why I never had Graham listed in my 1st round radar was because of his size. I felt like he might get the Woodley treatment and drop to the 2nd. Teams who run the 3-4 are a little hesitant to draft a DE from college and have them transition. They have to be very careful (see Jets and Gholston). Things might be different after a great Senior Bowl and his Combine later this month, but he's still a late 1st early 2nd rounder at this point. I see a 4-3 team taking him like the Bengals maybe.
Dude like 95% of all 3-4 OLBs were college DEs? There's maybe 5 teams in the NCAA that run a 3-4. Case in point look at ours Lawson and Harrelson were both DEs. Gholston was just a monumental bust.
Which makes it even more difficult for teams to really judge these college ends. They would have to learn how to drop back and cover instead of just focusing to rush the QB. Woodley has been good and Ware has been incredible. It also looks like Orakpo could be great but he also played some outside linebacker at Texas. Aaron Kampman couldn't make the transition last season, Kamerion Wimbley hasn't made a great transition either, Lawson and Haralson aren't the pass rushing terrors that we had hoped but are serviceable.
I'm not saying Graham wouldn't be good standing up in a 3-4, I'm just saying that teams running a 3-4 are going to be a little more reluctant to take an end in the 1st round and have them learn a new position. When they interviewed Graham at the Senior Bowl, he said it himself that he would prefer to play end in the pros.