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What will Scotty do?
Feb 2, 2010 at 2:49 PM
- krizay
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He'll draft an OT at 13, Trade down from 16/17 and draft BPA. Whoever/whatever that may be.
Feb 2, 2010 at 2:58 PM
- jimbagg
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Based on past performance, Scott will NOT trade down in Round 1 (that was Donahue's MO). Look for Scott to move the Round 2 pick, if he wants to manuever, up or down.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:00 PM
- susweel
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Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:04 PM
- krizay
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Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM
- Leathaface
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Kinda shocking to see we've only drafted one OT.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM
- smileyman
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Kinda shocking to see we've only drafted one OT.
Since 1950 the Niners have only drafted 4 offensive linemen in the first round. Three tackles and one center.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:37 PM
- TonyMantana
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Originally posted by jimbagg:
If you subscribe to the belief that past behavior is the best indicator of future performance, let's break down Scotty's draft history and draw some conclusions. Scotty is a self-proclaimed BPA guy, but this breakdown might imply some other conclusions, as well.
There have been 42 picks with Scotty on board:
OG/C - 4 of 42 picks: Rnd 2 (2 picks), Rnd 3 (1 pick), Rnd 4 (1 pick).
OT - 1 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick).
TE - 5 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick), Rnd 6 (2 picks), Rnd 7 (2 picks).
WR - 5 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick), Rnd 3 (1 pick), Rnd 5 (1), Rnd 6 (1), Rnd 7 (1).
QB - 2 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick), Rnd 5 (1 pick).
RB - 4 of 42 picks: Rnd 3 (2 picks), Rnd 4 (1 pick), Rnd 6 (1 pick).
FB - none
Total Offensive = 21
DL - 6 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1), Rnd 3 (1), Rnd 4 (1), Rnd 5 (1), Rnd 6 (1), Rnd 7 (1).
ILB - 3 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick), Rnd 5 (1), Rnd 7 (1)
OLB - 3 of 42 picks: Rnd 1 (1 pick), Rnd 4 (1), Rnd 5 (1).
CB - 5 of 42 picks: Rnd 3 (1), Rnd 5 (1), Rnd 6 (2), Rnd 7 (1). Incl R.Smith as CB.
S - 3 of 42 picks: Rnd 4 (1), Rnd 7 (2).
Total Defense = 20
RS - 1 of 42 picks: Rnd 3 (1 pick) - this was Brandon Williams
Conclusions:
Over 5 years, covering 7 of 42 picks, Scotty has NEVER used more than a single Round 1 pick on ANY one position. Scotty proclaims to be a BPA disciple, but does he have a long term plan to eventually secure a #1 pick at most every position? Is it a DB's turn in this Round 1 rotation?
Over 5 years, the club has drafted only 1 player (Staley) for the NFL OT position. Does Scott value the OT position highly enough? Were there no Round 2-7 OT's, who were the BPA at the time? Odd.
"You can get guards" - in Rounds 2-4, otherwise, just sign them as UDFA's.
Over this period, the club has seemingly shorted the DB area, with R. Smith, drafted as a CB in Round 3, as its only Day 1 pick at this position. (Understand that Rnd 3 is no longer a Day 1 round).
The only previous effort at drafting a RS (B. Williams in Round 3) did not turn out so well. Does Scotty prefer FA to fill this need?
Only 2 of 42 picks were Round 2 selections (both times used to select an OG). Otherwise, the club has shown a propensity to trade (up or down) out of its Round 2 positions.
You have to take where the team was at the time strongly into consideration. You mention the team only attempting to draft one "return specialist". I dont even think they viewed Williams as much of a RS as they hoped he could be a slot WR. At any rate a team that is in rebuilding mode as they have been much of the past five years has no business using any draft picks on a "return specialist". This year how ever it is probably warranted.
And the $90 million investment they made in the supposed "lock down" corner in FA probably kept them from wanting to invest first round money at that position.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:41 PM
- SanDiego49er
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OT then BPA.
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:42 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Frank Gore?
Feb 2, 2010 at 3:52 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Frank Gore?
Everyone gets lucky once in a while. Just look at how many times he has missed.
Feb 2, 2010 at 4:02 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Frank Gore?
Everyone gets lucky once in a while. Just look at how many times he has missed.
Nate Davis
Josh Morgan
Just to name a very short few off the top of my head. I'm sure I could name more if I wanted to look at every draft in depth.
Feb 2, 2010 at 4:04 PM
- KezarLivin
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Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
Funny, but oh so truthfully painful!
Feb 2, 2010 at 4:11 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Frank Gore?
Everyone gets lucky once in a while. Just look at how many times he has missed.
Nate Davis
Josh Morgan
Just to name a very short few off the top of my head. I'm sure I could name more if I wanted to look at every draft in depth.
Yah those guys are perennial pro bowlers.
Feb 2, 2010 at 4:13 PM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by krizay:Originally posted by susweel:
Scotty will draft a good player in the first round then completely waste the rest of the draft on crappy players.
truer words have never been spoken!
Frank Gore?
Everyone gets lucky once in a while. Just look at how many times he has missed.
Nate Davis
Josh Morgan
Just to name a very short few off the top of my head. I'm sure I could name more if I wanted to look at every draft in depth.
Yah those guys are perennial pro bowlers.
People seem readily conviced that Nate Davis = the next Peyton Manning on this board. Look at all the threads and all the love he gets. You can't convince them otherwise.

Josh Morgan is a starter.