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We should not take a 1st round O-lineman in the draft!

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Jan 13, 2010 at 11:15 AM
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We have no luck with any drafted lineman.

Rachal - ewww
Baas - double ewwww
Staley - The Joe Show was worth it though...
Snyder - herpes ewwwww
Wallace - who?
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Originally posted by GEEK:
We have no luck with any drafted lineman.

Rachal - ewww
Baas - double ewwww
Staley - The Joe Show was worth it though...
Snyder - herpes ewwwww
Wallace - who?

Exactly, last I checked Gore broke records with two massive free agent O-linemen in Allen & Jennings! Team hasn't been the same since they left...
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM
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So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM
our o-line coach sucks
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Fallacies galore.

But you're right, we should not take a 1st round O-lineman... we should take two.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:37 AM
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So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.



Originally posted by Overkill:
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?

Because you have other ways to aquire O-linemen via trade or the draft. Not to mention we have had more success in the past with FA O-linemen than drafted O-linemen.

I say if you aren't good at something you should give up and focus on what you are good at until you turn that weakness into a strength. You don't just keep making the same mistakes over and over again when there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:38 AM
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Fallacies galore.

But you're right, we should not take a 1st round O-lineman... we should take two.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Originally posted by glorydayz:
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So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.



Originally posted by Overkill:
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?

Because you have other ways to aquire O-linemen via trade or the draft. Not to mention we have had more success in the past with FA O-linemen than drafted O-linemen.

I say if you aren't good at something you should give up and focus on what you are good at until you turn that weakness into a strength. You don't just keep making the same mistakes over and over again when there is more than one way to skin a cat.

how often do trades really happen in the NFL?

yeah we had real success with FA linemen, jennings, marvel smith, pashos
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Originally posted by ninertico:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Fallacies galore.

But you're right, we should not take a 1st round O-lineman... we should take two.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM
You're right. We should just never draft OL ever. Ever. Ever. Because we're bad at it. So we shouldn't even take the risk and just sign someone who only wants to come here because no one else wants them.

Sir, I couldn't disagree more with this statement.

You see talent -- you take it. That's like saying we shouldn't draft a WR in the first round just because Woods, Rasheed Marshall, Jason Hill, Brandon Williams, and Brandon Lloyd didn't work out how we wanted.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Quote:
So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.



Originally posted by Overkill:
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?

Because you have other ways to aquire O-linemen via trade or the draft. Not to mention we have had more success in the past with FA O-linemen than drafted O-linemen.

I say if you aren't good at something you should give up and focus on what you are good at until you turn that weakness into a strength. You don't just keep making the same mistakes over and over again when there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Ok enlighten me. What exactly are we good at that we should stick to? Drafting QBs? RBs? We haven't exactly hit on much.
The Jets and Broncos have two of the best Olines in football. Each is anchored by a top 15 pick at LT and/or surrounded with other high picks. I'm glad you aren't making these decisions. If the GM fails at these picks much more, you change GMs, not stop drafting linemen.
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Quote:
So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.



Originally posted by Overkill:
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?

Because you have other ways to aquire O-linemen via trade or the draft. Not to mention we have had more success in the past with FA O-linemen than drafted O-linemen.

I say if you aren't good at something you should give up and focus on what you are good at until you turn that weakness into a strength. You don't just keep making the same mistakes over and over again when there is more than one way to skin a cat.

how often do trades really happen in the NFL?

yeah we had real success with FA linemen, jennings, marvel smith, pashos

Jennings was better than any o-lineman on our current team by far when he was healthy! Marvel never played for us (not healthy), and Pashos went on IR (health issue). So other than health all of our free agents pretty much out played all of our 1st and second round o-line picks outside of Smiley who we decided to let walk because OG's come a dime a dozen right?
Jan 13, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Quote:
So if you fail at something you should just give up? that's the worst logic I've ever heard. If anything, the odds are in our favor to hit this time.



Originally posted by Overkill:
Scot hasn't had a ton of success getting OL in the first two rounds, so we should just assume he can find talent later in the draft?

How in the world does that make sense?

Because you have other ways to aquire O-linemen via trade or the draft. Not to mention we have had more success in the past with FA O-linemen than drafted O-linemen.

I say if you aren't good at something you should give up and focus on what you are good at until you turn that weakness into a strength. You don't just keep making the same mistakes over and over again when there is more than one way to skin a cat.

If that's your approach to life, I feel sorry for you. If you have kids, I feel sorry for your kids' future.
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