Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by TX9R:
So Thomas' size scares people off, but Arenas is no problem. He looked even smaller? How's he gonna cover most NFL WRs, he's maybe 5'7. Do you take a guy in the 2nd strictly as a returner?
I wouldn't draft Arenas with the intention of starting him at CB...maybe a dime back. But his value would be in the return game.....personally I have other people in mind to fit that role.
And how everyone forgets how Arenas was burned by Shipley for a TD, twice I think.
But some make it like being 5'10" as a Safety won't work in the NFL when some of the best are that height. But whatever that's their opinion, I'll stick with my guns that I'd still hope we get Thomas in the 1st, shoot if we got him in the 2nd it would be a steal.
Arenas is about the exact same height as Thomas is, maybe half an inch shorter -- completely irrelevant. Arenas was not burned twice.
#23 (can't remember the name) got burned as he and SS Justin Woodall were out of position on the 2nd TD. Anyone trying to imply that Arenas is a poor player or had a poor game doesn't know what the heck they're talking about.
Arenas was outstanding and has been so all year. (5 interceptions, 12 TFL, 5 sacks) Then tack on his incredible PR/KR numbers, with 7 return TDs, and you've got yourself a day one talent.
Earl Thomas is not his listed 5-10; he's just under 5-9 or so. But I'm not worried about height with safeties, the concern is whether or not they can make plays in all ways. Does Thomas have any glaring weakness? Yes, yes he does, and it's tackling in general and playing the run. Fantastic in coverage, but poor in run support. 65 tackles all year. Not surprising for a 5-9 190 pound safety.
Lets compare SS Earl Thomas' numbers to middle rounder SS Kyle McCarthy of Notre Dame.
Thomas: 65 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 8 INT
McCarthy: 101 tackles, 3 TFL, 5 INT (in two less games).
Hopefully this helps to further explain why Thomas is not a first-rounder right now in my eyes.