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Key Prospect Watch Tonight: #8 Cincinnati vs. #21 South Florida

Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.

Yeah, as expected, average game from George. People blamed the injury last year, and I'm sure there'll be some saying it's only because he's an undersized end and if you place him at OLB he'll succeed. That's just not how it always works.

How often did you see Selvie drop into coverage tonight? He's going to have to learn to play OLB I'm sure, unless he magically bulks up 10-20 pounds, but he's going to need to get much better because guys like Sapp, Hughes, and Kindle not only look better, they are playing better right now.
I found this review of Jason Pierre-Paul interesting from Wes Bunting at NFP:

What a freak (and I mean that in a good way)

"South Florida defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul has to be one of the toughest linemen in the nation to block. His combination of athleticism, power and length gives him the ability to routinely stack and shed in all areas of the game. Against Cincinnati, he was consistently able to set the edge in the run game, control blockers at the point of attack and make his way toward the ball. And in the pass game, he showcased an impressive first step for his size off the edge and loves to go to his rip move to keep blockers from getting their hands on him. He’s still very raw with his instincts, stance and overall hand technique, but the kid has an incredible-looking frame and features an amazing 81-inch wingspan. He finished with five tackles, two tackles for loss, two quarterback hurries and was consistently able to slip blocks and work his way toward the football. I could see him developing into something special as either a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end."

[ Edited by ChaunceyGardner on Oct 16, 2009 at 16:13:32 ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.

Yeah, as expected, average game from George. People blamed the injury last year, and I'm sure there'll be some saying it's only because he's an undersized end and if you place him at OLB he'll succeed. That's just not how it always works.

How often did you see Selvie drop into coverage tonight? He's going to have to learn to play OLB I'm sure, unless he magically bulks up 10-20 pounds, but he's going to need to get much better because guys like Sapp, Hughes, and Kindle not only look better, they are playing better right now.

Selvie has finesse written all over him, and simply flying around the corner is a one-trick pony that is not going to work in the NFL. At some point, he is going to have to be physical enough to smash an OT back in a bull rush, or at least be able to sustain his line to the QB when being pushed by a LT.

In other words, while players like Brandon Graham are men who are ready to play in the NFL right now, Selvie is simply not strong or physical enough to warrant much excitement.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.

Yeah, as expected, average game from George. People blamed the injury last year, and I'm sure there'll be some saying it's only because he's an undersized end and if you place him at OLB he'll succeed. That's just not how it always works.

How often did you see Selvie drop into coverage tonight? He's going to have to learn to play OLB I'm sure, unless he magically bulks up 10-20 pounds, but he's going to need to get much better because guys like Sapp, Hughes, and Kindle not only look better, they are playing better right now.

Selvie has finesse written all over him, and simply flying around the corner is a one-trick pony that is not going to work in the NFL. At some point, he is going to have to be physical enough to smash an OT back in a bull rush, or at least be able to sustain his line to the QB when being pushed by a LT.

In other words, while players like Brandon Graham are men who are ready to play in the NFL right now, Selvie is simply not strong or physical enough to warrant much excitement.

That about sums it up. It seems that this year some of the best guys are the ones people write off as "too short" to play in the NFL. Graham and Norwood's heights are attributes that I don't believe will hinder them at all in the NFL. Woodley is 6-1, and a monster, and boy does Graham resemble him.

Graham and Norwood are guys that, as you watch them, you notice they're difficult to sustain any sort of block against. Even if you get the initial jump, they'll work and work and work and if you can't keep it going every minute of every play, they'll make you pay eventually, and continually.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Oct 16, 2009 at 11:35 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.

Yeah, as expected, average game from George. People blamed the injury last year, and I'm sure there'll be some saying it's only because he's an undersized end and if you place him at OLB he'll succeed. That's just not how it always works.

How often did you see Selvie drop into coverage tonight? He's going to have to learn to play OLB I'm sure, unless he magically bulks up 10-20 pounds, but he's going to need to get much better because guys like Sapp, Hughes, and Kindle not only look better, they are playing better right now.

Selvie has finesse written all over him, and simply flying around the corner is a one-trick pony that is not going to work in the NFL. At some point, he is going to have to be physical enough to smash an OT back in a bull rush, or at least be able to sustain his line to the QB when being pushed by a LT.

In other words, while players like Brandon Graham are men who are ready to play in the NFL right now, Selvie is simply not strong or physical enough to warrant much excitement.

That about sums it up. It seems that this year some of the best guys are the ones people write off as "too short" to play in the NFL. Graham and Norwood's heights are attributes that I don't believe will hinder them at all in the NFL. Woodley is 6-1, and a monster, and boy does Graham resemble him.

Graham and Norwood are guys that, as you watch them, you notice they're difficult to sustain any sort of block against. Even if you get the initial jump, they'll work and work and work and if you can't keep it going every minute of every play, they'll make you pay eventually, and continually.

Graham blew me away in his performance against two very good OT's in Iowa. I know that Bulaga was not at 100% physically, but he completely manhandled him for way too much of the day.

Graham is ready to play on Sundays. He's just a big, strong, determined kid. I'm not quite as high on Norwood (more of a compliment for Graham than a slight for Norwood), but still like him an awful lot.
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by DarthNiner:
Selvie looked like he was being engulfed by the 6'6", 310lbs LT.

Yeah, as expected, average game from George. People blamed the injury last year, and I'm sure there'll be some saying it's only because he's an undersized end and if you place him at OLB he'll succeed. That's just not how it always works.

How often did you see Selvie drop into coverage tonight? He's going to have to learn to play OLB I'm sure, unless he magically bulks up 10-20 pounds, but he's going to need to get much better because guys like Sapp, Hughes, and Kindle not only look better, they are playing better right now.

Selvie has finesse written all over him, and simply flying around the corner is a one-trick pony that is not going to work in the NFL. At some point, he is going to have to be physical enough to smash an OT back in a bull rush, or at least be able to sustain his line to the QB when being pushed by a LT.

In other words, while players like Brandon Graham are men who are ready to play in the NFL right now, Selvie is simply not strong or physical enough to warrant much excitement.

That about sums it up. It seems that this year some of the best guys are the ones people write off as "too short" to play in the NFL. Graham and Norwood's heights are attributes that I don't believe will hinder them at all in the NFL. Woodley is 6-1, and a monster, and boy does Graham resemble him.

Graham and Norwood are guys that, as you watch them, you notice they're difficult to sustain any sort of block against. Even if you get the initial jump, they'll work and work and work and if you can't keep it going every minute of every play, they'll make you pay eventually, and continually.

Graham blew me away in his performance against two very good OT's in Iowa. I know that Bulaga was not at 100% physically, but he completely manhandled him for way too much of the day.

Graham is ready to play on Sundays. He's just a big, strong, determined kid. I'm not quite as high on Norwood (more of a compliment for Graham than a slight for Norwood), but still like him an awful lot.

In watching the two, the one thing I'll say Norwood has an edge in is his initial burst off the snap. He's slightly quicker than Graham off the snap (probably because he's.. well.. lighter. And quicker.) -- But both are guys I'd obviously love to have here in San Francisco.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by hofer36:
kiper is talking up some junior college kid for south florida...plays def end and has a haitian sounding name (3 names, like jean paul --- or the like)..he says they may have best dline in counrty

Pierre-Paul. A Junior rising up some boards. Don't think he'd declare but he's looking like a 2nd day guy. At 6-6 265, he's more of a 4-3 end. I don't think he has near enough athleticism or agility to play OLB in a 3-4. He'd likely be asked to add weight and play end.

Guy has amazing athleticism. He is a perfect fit for the 3-4. Did you see the one-handed interception?