Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by crzy:
Wow, just wow.
In PPR, I can see legit arguments for passing on Adrian Peterson for Forte, Mojo, Slaton, and possibly, maybe Steven Jackson.
But I think you're absolutely nuts if you think Tomlinson, Marion Barber, Chris Johnson, or Frank Gore will outscore Adrian Peterson in any fantasy format.
LT is too old, Barber is in a timeshare with Felix Jones and Tashard Choice. Chris Johnson will lose a ton of redzone carries to an in-shape Lendale White.
Gore is overrated by 49er fans. He's injury prone, fumbles a ton, and doesn't score many touchdowns. Never once had a double-digit touchdown season.
I love Ray Rice. I drafted him in almost every league. But Ray Rice in the first round? Are you kidding me?
You're seriously overvaluing the "one point" you receive per reception.
Ahh! but remember I said I wouldn't take Peterson in the 1st round. Thus me wanting Ray Rice doesn't mean i'd take him in the 1st.
In the only redraft league i've done in a few years. Peterson was the 10 best RB in our PPR format last year.
just 4 points ahead of Barber who missed some games and only 14 ahead of Gore who missed 2 games. 17 more than Steve Jax who missed 5 games. If all guys stayed healthy he wouldn't have been in the top 12 in RB's alone.
But this format is 1 point per 20 yards instead of 10.
So no I'm not overvaluing that one point as you suggest.
EDIT: only 7 more than Lynch who missed 1 game 21 more than Bush who missed 6 games.
EDIT 2: Which means per game averages for each player was higher than that of Peterson.
Well your scoring system places too much emphasis on running back receptions vs rushing yards, IMO.
While I agree with this assessment. Let's look at 10yards per point. Peterson averaged 117 ypg (rushing and receiving) Frank Gore 100. Barber 93. So even if it was 10 yards per point. Peterson is averaging just 1 fantasy point more than Gore in terms of yardage. While Gore is averaging 2 more ppg via receptions. Now Peterson had the edge by 2 in total TD's. (again with Gore missing 2 games.) But even still, Peterson wins the TD battle by 12 total points. Gore's receptions outproducing Peterson's yardage by a 2-1 margin. Which gives Gore 16 extra points in yardage and recptions. Thus a total of 4 more points.
All this with Peterson having a remarkable year and Gore an average year. IMO as I said Peterson will not reach his yardage total this year. While Gore has a very legitimate chance of surpassing his 08 numbers.
I wasn't going to get into Barber but.......... Peterson averaged 2 more Fantasy points per game than Barber in terms of yards. While Barber outscored him 3-1 in terms of recptions pg. So yardage and receptions is a wash. Peterson did get 1 more TD than Barber. But again who has the best chance to improve last year's numbers?
I just took 4 sleeping pills and am groggy as hell. So if this doen't make any sense. There's my excuse!