49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Agree that was a mistake, but disagree it's all that meaningful (in terms of forming a judgement of Kyle's ability as a coach).

Some of Kyle's warts IMO are clock management and pacing issues.

The thing is that he's not the only coach that has these particular warts… some of whom are Super Bowl winners… and all coaches have warts of some type.

I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

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Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

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Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
I will provide an example of what I am talking about.

Last week at home against Washington, we had to punt with 1 minute left and we still had 3 timeouts. The goal was to pin Washington as far back and have the minute expire without them scoring a TD.

Kyle took an intentional delay of game that pushed us back an extra 5 yards. As the game clock was ticking down to 1 minute left and the play clock was expiring, you take a timeout and not a delay of game.

You can't make those mistakes in super bowls. Good teams will make it hurt.

As it turned out, although this was not Kyle's fault, we got an unnecessary conduct on punt as well and now Washington already had ball at midfield.

You know you on some B******t right!

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Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Agree that was a mistake, but disagree it's all that meaningful (in terms of forming a judgement of Kyle's ability as a coach).

Some of Kyle's warts IMO are clock management and pacing issues.

The thing is that he's not the only coach that has these particular warts… some of whom are Super Bowl winners… and all coaches have warts of some type.

I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

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The game calls for it?

You think you are the only one who thinks that?

When a defense sells run, you pass, especially when running on first and second down runs doesn't work

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Complaining about play calling is funny to me. Pretty much it's a genius call if it works and a horrible call if it doesn't work. Nevermind if the execution is bad its a horrible call and the coach should be fired!!!

These play callers call 50+ calls a game and every one of them is expected to be a genius call that catches the defense off guard. 40 of them might work (positive yardage is gained) but we will dwell on the 10 that didn't work. Even if a defensive player made an excellent play or someone slipped and missed a block, its the play callers fault.

You are kidding yourself if you think you are going to agree with every play call.
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Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Complaining about play calling is funny to me. Pretty much it's a genius call if it works and a horrible call if it doesn't work. Nevermind if the execution is bad its a horrible call and the coach should be fired!!!

These play callers call 50+ calls a game and every one of them is expected to be a genius call that catches the defense off guard. 40 of them might work (positive yardage is gained) but we will dwell on the 10 that didn't work. Even if a defensive player made an excellent play or someone slipped and missed a block, its the play callers fault.

You are kidding yourself if you think you are going to agree with every play call.
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Everyone needs to go coach youth football.
It will humble the cocky couch coaching.
D cords are just as good as O cords. Its chess out there and hard as hell to call a clean game.
Completely changed the way I judge coaches.

KS out smarts himself sometimes. He is also one of the best in world at calling plays. Thats how hard it is.

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Lol

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

That's bc he's a troll.

Originally posted by ritz126:
LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Isnt that what good play callers are suppose to do? Call the right play at the right time.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ritz126:
LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Isnt that what good play callers are suppose to do? Call the right play at the right time.

Yup all the good play callers always call the right play.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ritz126:
LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Isnt that what good play callers are suppose to do? Call the right play at the right time.

Yup all the good play callers always call the right play.

Also lets just completely ignore that the D cord also always calls the right play.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Should call screens on 4th and 8 like the elite guys do.

LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

That's bc he's a troll.

Clearly you did not see his brilliant blood clots take

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by ritz126:
LOL

but seriously i think people always complain no matter what. KS is an aggressive coach its hard to blame him for that especially in the SB rather than running the clock especially when it worked previous in that game. I see a lot of the losses as execution issues and i always though its ridiculous to blame the offense for giving up a 28-3 lead the fall shouldve been way more on Dan Quinn than KS.

I feel people want it both ways. I have seen people like DrEli complain when play calling gets conservative then also complain when it stays aggressive and it doesnt work out. You cant have it both ways

Isnt that what good play callers are suppose to do? Call the right play at the right time.

Yup all the good play callers always call the right play.

Also lets just completely ignore that the D cord also always calls the right play.

Ya...they just hate Kyle, which is crazy. If you think Kyle is a mid coach, you're either trolling or just don't s**t about football. There's no in between.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Agree that was a mistake, but disagree it's all that meaningful (in terms of forming a judgement of Kyle's ability as a coach).

Some of Kyle's warts IMO are clock management and pacing issues.

The thing is that he's not the only coach that has these particular warts… some of whom are Super Bowl winners… and all coaches have warts of some type.

I'd some in-game decisions are shady as well. Sometimes he gets too pass happy when the game calls for just running it. Did it both SBs.

Cue genus posting play by play in 3…2…1…

Facts don't seem to matter to you so I'm not going to waste my time.