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Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by facestabber:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Exactly. Aside from the Trey Lance debacle, trading Buckner was one of the dumbest moves this front office has done.

Well, not convinced. Regarding Trey Lance, a starting qb was a huge need and thanks to Covid it was not possible to scout in the usual way. It was a reasonable shot and very unlucky but not, by a mile, one of the dumbest moves ever.

Regarding Buckner, it was a money-thing, salary cap. I don't pretend to know enough to assess it.

The dumbest move the 49ers front office has ever done, imo, was to trade Charles Haley to Dallas. Neither Lance or the Buckner trade stands even a remote comparison.

Haley to Dallas tipped the scales and still shakes my soul to this day. Dallas was a monster in the making and we handed them a SB winning veteran with a chip on his shoulder. Shame.

Well if we're going back that far, I'm gonna go with trading Joe. Haley or not, I still think Joe would have beaten those Dallas teams that it took Steve being surrounded by a super team to beat.

Joe only played 2 seasons in KC. His last was 1994. The Niners won their last SB that season beating the Chargers so Joe wouldn't have made a difference that year.

Oh, the season that sent the team into salary cap hell in order to get Young a ring? No, he'd have still won that, also 92 & 93...

Look I love Joe but didnt he play a total of 2 quarters of ball against the Lions in the final game. He looked solid, but Young is the League MVP in 92. How do you make that switch in the playoffs?

I'm not a cap expert, but in 94 Sanders, Dent, Plummer, Mann, Cook and even Ricky Jackson were low cost contracts iirc.

 

Niner Talk » DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts, and back!

Originally posted by q0c0p:
LET. HIM. COOK!!!! John might not be the greatest drafted in rounds 1-2 but he is the best GM when it comes to trades and FA!!!

the best? what about roseman and schneider? also lynch missed in some fas and trades like ford, hargrave, gregory, etc

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

I've said it before and I'll add a thought which I may be wrong on. First, I think fans are frustrated because he has miss a lot the last two seasons. They know how much of a difference maker he is when he plays on the field so we miss him. The result, he's a bum. He's not and hopefully the glass thing with Bosa ends . . . he is NOT Pearsall.

Second, IF the Niners can get a long term rusher opposite of him and keep Buckner while the young guys develop, then the pressure is moved off Bosa, he'll get less double teams. I think part of his injuries is because he has been the key component of the defensive line with really no one opposite of him to share the burden. Get someone over the next 3 years who can do that, and watch out I think. When Bosa plays he goes all out and gives his all. As a result because opponents focus on that it leads to more wear and tare on this body. Get another impactful edge opposite of him with Buckner in the middle, who is the opponent going to double? Bosa then shines and this talk all ends and I think his durability increases as well as he is not carrying the load of the defensive line. I'm probably wrong but that is one thought I've had.

 

Niner Talk » DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

LET. HIM. COOK!!!! John might not be the greatest drafter in rounds 1-2 but he is the best GM when it comes to trades and FA!!!

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Im so freaking tired of the kicker cycle rhetorics, and Im convinced either people have a goldfish like short term memory or they are way too sentimental/attached to people. I have no other explanation.

Moody starts stinking - people are saying "there is no one out there who can replace him". Moody is given longer leash because of draft status.
Finally Moody is cut and a guy off his couch is brought in. He is great and everyone loves him and then they want to pay him.

Pineiro starts stinking - people are ONCE AGAIN saying "there is no one out there who can replace him". And he is now given a longer leash because of dead cap/long contract. Like what is this, bizzaro world ? You're supposed to LEARN from this experience that kickers are replaceable, NOT be sentimental and embrace a guy who did it for one season and started sucking.

There are plenty of other kickers he can get replaced by, what are they gonna do, miss PATs ? Our current kicker does this already.

When you hire people to clean your house and they do a crappy job, do you say "there is no one else who can do a similarly bad job of cleaning" or do you hire folks who actually do the job right ? I bet you dont wait until your crapper looks like a public restroom on Market st to make the change.

The kicking situation, is the toilet right now that is not getting cleaned properly. Its absurd to hold on to people who do a crap job at kicking. Next guy up, and I know its hard to distance yourself from human element- but this is the gist of the K position in the NFL. Either you clean toilets normally or if you cant its the next guy up.

 

Niner Talk » 49ers sign K Eddy Piñeiro

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
I think everyone expected him to be back after the bye when the injury was first announced. Commanders was wishful thinking, and didn't want to risk him vs Atlanta, especially on turf.

Yeah, I think ATL was more about the turf than him not playing.

I just hope he lasts down the stretch. That's why I want us to get another pass rusher on the edge. It'll either compliment Bosa or help us if he isn't playing.

 

Niner Talk » DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Stanley:
First round pick: The team has 5 years of control
Second round pick: The team has 4 years of control

Theoretically an extra year without having to pay them.

i think he meant that is a disadvantage and that is why we traded down

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by xcfan:
What could've been. . .
If we had drafted him, on opening day, a new dad would've been holding his baby son clad in 9ers jammies.
Today, he'd be sharing beers with his 21 year old son, and watching the game.
What could've been. . .

Are you lamenting the trade up for JJ Stokes and how we lost out on Ray Lewis as a result?

I get we absolutely should've picked Rodgers but sheesh.

JJ Stokes was drafted in 1995, Ray Lewis in 96, besides we had Ken Norton Jr and Lee Woodall while being an offensive oriented team . But would've been nice, I'm sure every other team that was picking before the Ravens regrets not drafting him. The Aaron Rodgers miss is way worse because he had NoCal roots and wanted to play here. Plus we drafted Alex Smith who wasn't as good to say the least over him.

Edit-did the 95 trade up cost us our 96 1st round pick and we were ahead of the Ravens?

 

NFL Talk » Aaron Rodgers: year 21

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by alwayssecond:
can you explain the bolded part?

First round pick: The team has 5 years of control
Second round pick: The team has 4 years of control

Theoretically an extra year without having to pay them.

Well it's controlled, the fifth year option is expensive. It's tiered determining how much their fifth year
Option is, which is fully guaranteed by the team.

if you're really good, your fifth year salary will be equal to the transition tag or franchise tag (depending if you've made pro bowls or not).

 

Niner Talk » John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by facestabber:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Exactly. Aside from the Trey Lance debacle, trading Buckner was one of the dumbest moves this front office has done.

Well, not convinced. Regarding Trey Lance, a starting qb was a huge need and thanks to Covid it was not possible to scout in the usual way. It was a reasonable shot and very unlucky but not, by a mile, one of the dumbest moves ever.

Regarding Buckner, it was a money-thing, salary cap. I don't pretend to know enough to assess it.

The dumbest move the 49ers front office has ever done, imo, was to trade Charles Haley to Dallas. Neither Lance or the Buckner trade stands even a remote comparison.

Haley to Dallas tipped the scales and still shakes my soul to this day. Dallas was a monster in the making and we handed them a SB winning veteran with a chip on his shoulder. Shame.

Well if we're going back that far, I'm gonna go with trading Joe. Haley or not, I still think Joe would have beaten those Dallas teams that it took Steve being surrounded by a super team to beat.

Joe only played 2 seasons in KC. His last was 1994. The Niners won their last SB that season beating the Chargers so Joe wouldn't have made a difference that year.

Oh, the season that sent the team into salary cap hell in order to get Young a ring? No, he'd have still won that, also 92 & 93...

How could Joe have made a difference in 1994? The Niners won without him so he wouldn't have made a difference. Maybe in 1993 but Dallas was really good that year. In 1992 Joe was still recovering from the severe elbow tendon injury he suffered in 1991. He couldn't have made difference that season. Steve led the team to a 14-2 record which is one reason they decided the could move on from Montana.

Montana himself summed up that era - if his body was healthy (aka he never got hurt - back and elbow etc) he would have won 2 more with that squad. Well, unfortunately he wasn't healthy, so Young took over.

The problem with the 1992 and 1993 team against Dallas wasn't Young, it was the 49er defense. Montana isn't winning against that Dallas team without the overhauled 49er defense that needed to have six new starters in 1994 (Sanders, Plummer, Norton, Woodall, Young, Jackson) plus a handful of key new role players (Harris, Cook).

Tell that to Joe lol

 

Niner Talk » DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts, and back!

Originally posted by thl408:
Same thing I said when 49ers got Trent Williams, also a 3rd and a 5th, but Trent pays a more valued position.

I would have gladly paid a 3rd and 5th for nelson, just because we have our worst oline in that same position and he would be a huge upgrade. i know guards arent as valued, but faneca, thuney, evans, yanda, they can be key for championship teams

 

Niner Talk » 49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by alwayssecond:
i cant believe how cheap nelson was

Same thing I said when 49ers got Trent Williams, also a 3rd and a 5th, but Trent pays a more valued position.

 

Niner Talk » 49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Please don't tease me with this Garrett Wilson talk

Lol it's not going to happen. Just a bunch of fans wish-casting and a couple vague tweets.

Downs is who you should be realistically hoping for and if it happens, great!

Agreed. And people wanting to trade two firsts for him. Crazy.

If we really wanted to go for it realistically you should get bosa to get his brother to unretire and also get Yaya Diaby from the bucs. Now you have the best defensive line in football and crazy pass rush.

Then you round it out by bringing in downs. Hell I would take taylor for a first also. If cmc goes down were more cooked than without evans.

At least if Evans has an issue you still have robinson, deebo, kirk, stribling, and watkins.

If cmc goes down, did you see blacks first 6 carrys last game? They were literally wasted downs with him running into our own linemen.

We would go to literally no running game and forced to pass every down similar to the second half in the falcons game.

 

Niner Talk » Realistic 49ers Trade Targets 2026