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***NBA 2022 OFF-SEASON thread***

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Full respect to the Warriors owners. They pay their players if they have to pay 100m+ in luxury taxes and let FO do their job. Best owners in all of NBA.

They're looking at nearly half a billion dollar payroll next year including the luxury tax. That's unreal.
We are so lucky to have an owner like Joe Lacob. I still think its so unfair to have to pay crazy high luxury tax for simply keeping players that you drafted and developed. The Warriors dont have one high priced Free Agent on the roster.

you all didn't draft Wiggins man.
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Originally posted by TheXFactor:
you all didn't draft Wiggins man.

Yup - and salary cap rules is what helped them land Durant in the first place - who they moved in a s&t for D'Lo (who was a FA) - and then D'LO was flipped for Wiggins and a pick that IIRC was used to draft Kuminga. So, Wiggins + Kuminga were acquired via signing and then eventually trading of that FA in the same year.

Warriors are paying massive tax bc of being a repeat offender. They could have easily let Durant walk in the FA and not use his cap hold to acquire more players and they'd be under the tax apron. But, owners are willing to spend half a billion dollars to win chip - and you gotta respect that. That's all you really want from the billionaire owners.
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Full respect to the Warriors owners. They pay their players if they have to pay 100m+ in luxury taxes and let FO do their job. Best owners in all of NBA.

They're looking at nearly half a billion dollar payroll next year including the luxury tax. That's unreal.
We are so lucky to have an owner like Joe Lacob. I still think its so unfair to have to pay crazy high luxury tax for simply keeping players that you drafted and developed. The Warriors dont have one high priced Free Agent on the roster.

you all didn't draft Wiggins man.
I am fully aware that the Warriors didnt draft Wiggins. He was traded for but he wasnt a big time FA signing. Every other high priced guy on their team was drafted and its ridiculous that they have to pay luxury tax for signing them and keeping them on the team. You would think the NBA would want to keep teams together and limit players jumping all over the place.
[ Edited by Ninerjohn on Oct 16, 2022 at 2:48 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Full respect to the Warriors owners. They pay their players if they have to pay 100m+ in luxury taxes and let FO do their job. Best owners in all of NBA.

They're looking at nearly half a billion dollar payroll next year including the luxury tax. That's unreal.
We are so lucky to have an owner like Joe Lacob. I still think its so unfair to have to pay crazy high luxury tax for simply keeping players that you drafted and developed. The Warriors dont have one high priced Free Agent on the roster.

you all didn't draft Wiggins man.
I am fully aware that the Warriors didnt draft Wiggins. He was traded for but he wasnt a big time FA signing. Every other high priced guy on their team was drafted and its ridiculous that they have to pay luxury tax for signing them and keeping them on the team. You would think the NBA would want to keep teams together and limit players jumping all over the place.

So the rules shouldn't apply if you drafted the players? These rules were all mutually agreed upon to make the league more balanced. And if you want to hand out huge money, you will be taxed accordingly. This is a classic example of wanting your cake and eat it too.

And why should any fan care about a luxury tax? These owners are so stinking rich. Whether it's the warriors, Lakers, Memphis or charlotte. Props to Lacob for spending it, but it's not like he's gonna be hurting from it. He'll just make less money, but still boat loads.
Who do you guys have coming outa the East and West? I've got GSW and 6ers
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Who do you guys have coming outa the East and West? I've got GSW and 6ers

Right now - Warriors & Bucks. There will be a lot of trades that'll go down this season as some of the bad teams will try to position themselves to have a shot at top 2 picks.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Full respect to the Warriors owners. They pay their players if they have to pay 100m+ in luxury taxes and let FO do their job. Best owners in all of NBA.

They're looking at nearly half a billion dollar payroll next year including the luxury tax. That's unreal.
We are so lucky to have an owner like Joe Lacob. I still think its so unfair to have to pay crazy high luxury tax for simply keeping players that you drafted and developed. The Warriors dont have one high priced Free Agent on the roster.

you all didn't draft Wiggins man.
I am fully aware that the Warriors didnt draft Wiggins. He was traded for but he wasnt a big time FA signing. Every other high priced guy on their team was drafted and its ridiculous that they have to pay luxury tax for signing them and keeping them on the team. You would think the NBA would want to keep teams together and limit players jumping all over the place.

So the rules shouldn't apply if you drafted the players? These rules were all mutually agreed upon to make the league more balanced. And if you want to hand out huge money, you will be taxed accordingly. This is a classic example of wanting your cake and eat it too.

And why should any fan care about a luxury tax? These owners are so stinking rich. Whether it's the warriors, Lakers, Memphis or charlotte. Props to Lacob for spending it, but it's not like he's gonna be hurting from it. He'll just make less money, but still boat loads.
No. I dont think players drafted by a team should be taxed the same as high priced free agents. Why penalize a team that drafts well, develops their players, and simply signs them to keep their team intact. As for me caring, I really dont as long as the ridiculous tax doesnt keep the Warriors from signing their own guys. But in reality, most teams wont do what Lacob is doing.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Who do you guys have coming outa the East and West? I've got GSW and 6ers

Right now - Warriors & Bucks. There will be a lot of trades that'll go down this season as some of the bad teams will try to position themselves to have a shot at top 2 picks.
As the rosters stand right now those have to be the 2 favorites. But injuries will be a big factor come playoff time as they always are.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Who do you guys have coming outa the East and West? I've got GSW and 6ers

Right now - Warriors & Bucks. There will be a lot of trades that'll go down this season as some of the bad teams will try to position themselves to have a shot at top 2 picks.

Bucks were my 2nd choice after the 6ers. I think they are going to both be in the ECF. That series could go either way IMO. I think Golden State is head and shoulders above every single team in the West and I don't think it's even close.
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Who do you guys have coming outa the East and West? I've got GSW and 6ers

Right now - Warriors & Bucks. There will be a lot of trades that'll go down this season as some of the bad teams will try to position themselves to have a shot at top 2 picks.
As the rosters stand right now those have to be the 2 favorites. But injuries will be a big factor come playoff time as they always are.

If not for injuries in the playoffs last year - I'm pretty sure we would have seen those two matchup in last years finals. But, injuries will always be a huge factor unfortunately.
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Full respect to the Warriors owners. They pay their players if they have to pay 100m+ in luxury taxes and let FO do their job. Best owners in all of NBA.

They're looking at nearly half a billion dollar payroll next year including the luxury tax. That's unreal.
We are so lucky to have an owner like Joe Lacob. I still think its so unfair to have to pay crazy high luxury tax for simply keeping players that you drafted and developed. The Warriors dont have one high priced Free Agent on the roster.

you all didn't draft Wiggins man.
I am fully aware that the Warriors didnt draft Wiggins. He was traded for but he wasnt a big time FA signing. Every other high priced guy on their team was drafted and its ridiculous that they have to pay luxury tax for signing them and keeping them on the team. You would think the NBA would want to keep teams together and limit players jumping all over the place.

So the rules shouldn't apply if you drafted the players? These rules were all mutually agreed upon to make the league more balanced. And if you want to hand out huge money, you will be taxed accordingly. This is a classic example of wanting your cake and eat it too.

And why should any fan care about a luxury tax? These owners are so stinking rich. Whether it's the warriors, Lakers, Memphis or charlotte. Props to Lacob for spending it, but it's not like he's gonna be hurting from it. He'll just make less money, but still boat loads.
No. I dont think players drafted by a team should be taxed the same as high priced free agents. Why penalize a team that drafts well, develops their players, and simply signs them to keep their team intact. As for me caring, I really dont as long as the ridiculous tax doesnt keep the Warriors from signing their own guys. But in reality, most teams wont do what Lacob is doing.

League doesn't care whether you drafted or signed players as a FA - that stuff is for the fans.

Bird rights which are used to go over the cap - applies equally to drafted players and FAs. They all become "their own guys" after 3 years.

There is already an advantage built-in which gives the team the right to offer supermax contract to their draftee.

One can also say - why penalize a team that scouts FAs - then takes the risks by overpaying them by millions of dollars - successfully fits him into their system & culture and now simply wants to resign them after all that work to keep their team intact?
[ Edited by 4ML on Oct 16, 2022 at 11:50 PM ]
nba kicked off 2nite and the last post was 2 days ago lol.....
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
nba kicked off 2nite and the last post was 2 days ago lol.....

There's a new thread for this season…
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
nba kicked off 2nite and the last post was 2 days ago lol.....

Are you wasted again on a workday at 3 am?
The NBA season started and no one has posted in the Off-Season thread for a few days? You don't say!
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