Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm actually pretty happy with the Bader signing. He's a gold glove caliber defender and has speed. Now you have two really good defenders in the OF...which you need when you have Ramos out there. I think that makes Gilbert a backup which is good.
Lee isn't a good defender. It's not that he made a lot of errors. He just didn't make some plays he should have. That's why they wanted to upgrade. He has an average arm and takes bad routes. He has the speed to be a better than he is.
Both Lee and Ramos have said they sent much of the off season working on defense. Hopefully it pays off. Lee will need to learn to play that tough right field in SF unless they put Bader in right.
what is it like being wrong so often?
So where am I wrong? Are you saying Lee or Ramos are really good defenders? They aren't. Lee is average at best and Ramos made a lot of mistakes.
They both acknowledged the fact that they need to get better defensively. That's why they worked on it in the off season. Both have the tools to be good if they can learn to take better routes.
When I said you have two good defenders in the OF which you need because of Ramos you took that as Ramos is good? Do you struggle with reading? Obviously Ramos isn't a good defender. Its been talked about all season.
Lee made a few mistakes in the OF but he also made some really good plays. He has a terrific arm and his outs above average was +7, ranking 19th among outfielders and in the top 8% for defensive skills. He also showcased elite speed, recording a sprint speed of 28.8 feet per second, placing him in the top 15%.
You also engaged with prime above about Lee being a scrub and took the comment seriously. Which you do often in here. Which is why I said you are wrong often...because a lot of your takes are awful. Lee started off strong last year, had one bad month, then rebounded. His stats are better than most on the team and he had a crap ton of extra base hits. Like a crap ton...but he's scrub. And compared to today's salaries, he doesn't make that much money overall. See his other dumb comment. Lee will be better in RF, will improve defensively and probably have a pretty damn good year offensively with a full season under his belt. He needs to work on stealing bases. Hopefully. But yeah, total scrub. But to each his own.
I didn't mean to infer that Ramos was good. I said both needed to improve their routes to the ball. They're throwing issues are more about accuracy and throwing to the right base than they are about actual arm strength. Nowhere did I agree that Lee was a scrub.
You said that they now had 2 good defenders in the OF when they signed Bader. I still say they have one. Neither Lee or Ramos can be considered good until they improve the areas I noted. My comments aren't just my thoughts. The front office knew they had to upgrade the OF and I've heard Kruk and Kuip talk about the issue in the OF several times. If Lee and Ramos spent the off season working on their short comings then they must have gotten the word too.
One last word. Most of what I say and what you and other say are opinions. There's no right or wrong. Just the way we feel about something. That's what most of this forum is about. You can disagree with an opinion but that doesn't make it wrong. Just different than yours.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Jan 31, 2026 at 12:39 PM ]