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2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Prospects who struggle initially in the big leagues turn out fine if they are good. I refuse to believe that early struggles "ruin" a player. Matt Williams struggled early, got sent down, came back up and he became a star. Mike Trout started his professional career 8 for 65.

If you are good, you will be good.

Confidence is big though. If a player is called up before they are ready and they have a miserable first stint it can affect whether they believe they can actually perform at that level. Not all situations are equal.

And my argument is that if a player is going to lose confidence in himself after a bad first stint, and questions whether or not he can perform on this level, he wasnt going to be good in the first place.

And before you disagree with me, I will say this. I dont mind if you disagree. In this argument, neither your side nor my side is provable.

Every player is different. Some can handle setbacks and take the struggles in stride. Others feel defeated when they get demoted after struggling at the big league level. We've seen examples of both types. It's hard to know when a player is really ready for ther big leagues. How he's performing in AAA or AA isn't always a good indicator.

Obviuosly I never played at any of those levels but it appears that the biggest difference is the pitching. MLB pitchers don't throw harder. They're just able to locate their pitches better. Especially the breaking stuff. Since pitchers like that are usually promoted to the big club the players in the minors just don't get to see those pitches on a consistent basis until the get to the majors. Sometimes I think teams need to be prepared to let hitters struggle at the major league level since they aren't going to see that pitching in the minors. It may be the only way they'll learn.
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When's the last time we had an opening day game at home? wow

[ Edited by VaBeachNiner on Aug 26, 2025 at 10:42 AM ]
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
When's the last time we had an opening day game at home? wow


Does it make difference? The Giants home record is about the same as their road record.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
When's the last time we had an opening day game at home? wow


Opening vs. the Yanks! Wow, look at those first few series right out of the gate...Yanks, Padres, Mets, and Phils.
  • tl57
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With all the critique of Verlander, except few games he didn't pitch that bad the rest of his games. If he had just average / normal run support, it would have been so much different for him and for the Giants.
[ Edited by tl57 on Aug 26, 2025 at 9:39 PM ]
Eldridge hit #22 last night.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Eldridge hit #22 last night.

Catchmaster post about his strikeouts in 3...2....1....
Dodged a missile.

Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Eldridge hit #22 last night.

Catchmaster post about his strikeouts in 3...2....1....

Only 30 games left so it makes little difference. Maybe they bring him up just to see what he can do or maybe they let him finish the year at AAA. Then he can come into camp on a high note next season.

I mention the SO rate since so many of you think the only thing that matters are the HRs. If he didn't SO so much he would hit even more. Fans on this forum complain about Chapman and Devers striking out but neither of them strikes out at the rate Eldridge does in AAA. He probably would SO even more in the majors. Don't think that the front office doesn't see that. He isn't getting a lot of walks either which tells me he needs to be more selective]ve at the plate. One of the things fans have been posting about all year is the Giants failure to put the ball in play. I don't know of he has a hole in his swing that can be fixed or if it's just who he is.

He has time on his side since he's only 20. That's the really good thing.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Aug 27, 2025 at 11:44 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Prospects who struggle initially in the big leagues turn out fine if they are good. I refuse to believe that early struggles "ruin" a player. Matt Williams struggled early, got sent down, came back up and he became a star. Mike Trout started his professional career 8 for 65.

If you are good, you will be good.

Confidence is big though. If a player is called up before they are ready and they have a miserable first stint it can affect whether they believe they can actually perform at that level. Not all situations are equal.

And my argument is that if a player is going to lose confidence in himself after a bad first stint, and questions whether or not he can perform on this level, he wasnt going to be good in the first place.

And before you disagree with me, I will say this. I dont mind if you disagree. In this argument, neither your side nor my side is provable.

Every player is different. Some can handle setbacks and take the struggles in stride. Others feel defeated when they get demoted after struggling at the big league level. We've seen examples of both types. It's hard to know when a player is really ready for ther big leagues. How he's performing in AAA or AA isn't always a good indicator.

Obviuosly I never played at any of those levels but it appears that the biggest difference is the pitching. MLB pitchers don't throw harder. They're just able to locate their pitches better. Especially the breaking stuff. Since pitchers like that are usually promoted to the big club the players in the minors just don't get to see those pitches on a consistent basis until the get to the majors. Sometimes I think teams need to be prepared to let hitters struggle at the major league level since they aren't going to see that pitching in the minors. It may be the only way they'll learn.

Correct. And my opinion is those who can handle setbacks and take the struggles in stride, were destined to become good players. While those who feel defeated when they get demoted for struggling, were destined to become busts.

Like I said, there is no way of proving I am correct or that I am wrong.

I just want some good players coming out of the damn minor leagues for once. Other than Posey (who we clearly should not have even been in the position to draft), we have had virtually nothing in terms of position players for like 30 years.
Devers on one
We are so back
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Amazing, what a total backwards team 2025 Giants are. Where would they have been with ten wins against absolute drags of the league.
Now they are creaming contenders in absolute meaningless games other than saving Melvin's job. Which is as bad as losing those 10 games.
lol Devers is going 30+ HR and 100+ RBI's with a top 10 OB% this year, yet Giants fans have complained about trading for him. 🙄
Originally posted by DeepNinerValue:
Devers on one

Looks healthy now.
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