2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Another crazy idea is as follow.
I very much doubt Giants will get Burnes, there will be a steep competition for him now among the Soto losers and Giants will be outbid for him. We had seen how Bay Area ties play when going after Judge. Same will probably apply to Fried.
I would try hard to sell Sasaki on the pitcher friendly AT&T, while keeping strong connection with Flaherty. If Sasaki situation is failing, get Flaherty and hope he repeats last year, with Ray leap to his old self. Then I would part with a couple of relatively highly taught youngsters (except Eldridge) and trade for a DH guy. Couple of guys are on the block right now: Vlad Jr and Castelanos. In that case, I don't see the reduction in payroll, but it is either competing or reduction. Combining the image of competing (in reality half ass competing) with reduction will not work well.

Originally posted by tl57:
Another crazy idea is as follow.
I very much doubt Giants will get Burnes, there will be a steep competition for him now among the Soto losers and Giants will be outbid for him. We had seen how Bay Area ties play when going after Judge. Same will probably apply to Fried.
I would try hard to sell Sasaki on the pitcher friendly AT&T, while keeping strong connection with Flaherty. If Sasaki situation is failing, get Flaherty and hope he repeats last year, with Ray leap to his old self. Then I would part with a couple of relatively highly taught youngsters (except Eldridge) and trade for a DH guy. Couple of guys are on the block right now: Vlad Jr and Castelanos. In that case, I don't see the reduction in payroll, but it is either competing or reduction.

good point. let NYM have their 750m player. i'd rather have adames and a few arms. and with LAD all their rotation spots may be filled. so they may not even be in.

The other thing I completely forgot about is looks like very strong interest in Doval around the league. The Giants have Walker now. Can they dangle Doval? Again, would have loved to get Vlad Jr. or Castelanos, despite their cost or FA situation.

It really comes down to this with the Giants.
They've lost around 70M from last year. So far, they've replaced it with 26M for Adames. Meaning that the planned payroll reduction is still largely intact. I think the best bet is if they'll get Sasaki because due to amateur rules for the 23 years old there is no bidding war for him. It becomes courting him and his preference. If they can't get him, I think they'll go with what they have. Webb, Ray, Kyle, Hicks, Birdsong. And/or turn to trades, money for money with maybe Posey carving up a token more out of that reduction if the good deal comes up.

Originally posted by tl57:
Another crazy idea is as follow.
I very much doubt Giants will get Burnes, there will be a steep competition for him now among the Soto losers and Giants will be outbid for him. We had seen how Bay Area ties play when going after Judge. Same will probably apply to Fried.
I would try hard to sell Sasaki on the pitcher friendly AT&T, while keeping strong connection with Flaherty. If Sasaki situation is failing, get Flaherty and hope he repeats last year, with Ray leap to his old self. Then I would part with a couple of relatively highly taught youngsters (except Eldridge) and trade for a DH guy. Couple of guys are on the block right now: Vlad Jr and Castelanos. In that case, I don't see the reduction in payroll, but it is either competing or reduction. Combining the image of competing (in reality half ass competing) with reduction will not work well.

I think its WAY more likely they convince Burnes to sign here than Sasaki.

Originally posted by tl57:
The other thing I completely forgot about is looks like very strong interest in Doval around the league. The Giants have Walker now. Can they dangle Doval? Again, would have loved to get Vlad Jr. or Castelanos, despite their cost or FA situation.

I still think they need to give Doval one more year to sort things out. Hes dominant when hes right. Trading him at his lowest value would be stupid.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Adames is a definite upgrade but he's just an average fielder (.967 lifetime) He also strikes out a lot averaging 180 per season. Still he has power that is much needed. The question is how much will carry over to AT&T.

.230 avg, 20 HR, 80 RBI's type guy at Oracle would be my guess. Milwaukee is a pretty live yard. It's going to be tough for any big money free agent hitter to really be worth their contract here. I wish we could land an elite guy for once. Id rather overpay for a legit star than pay 180 mil for a 20/80 guy.

Originally posted by Niners99:
I still think they need to give Doval one more year to sort things out. Hes dominant when hes right. Trading him at his lowest value would be stupid.

I don't think his value is that law since the interest in him very high. People had seen his dominance and at this point his low could be seen as just a hiccup, short term bad stretch. However, if he is straggling for most of next year, then his value would significantly plumet for sure. Should Giants take that risk. especially that they supposedly have his replacement in place. If they didn't have anyone, I could have seen giving him one more year.

Originally posted by tl57:

Originally posted by Niners99:
I still think they need to give Doval one more year to sort things out. Hes dominant when hes right. Trading him at his lowest value would be stupid.

I don't think his value is that law since the interest in him very high. People had seen his dominance and at this point his low could be seen as just a hiccup, short term bad stretch. However, if he is straggling for most of next year, then his value would significantly plumet for sure. Should Giants take that risk. especially that they supposedly have his replacement in place. If they didn't have anyone, I could have seen giving him one more year.

Posey came out, unprompted, and said they aren't looking to trade Doval.

As for Burnes, he went to college in the bay area, so he might be more interested in signing here than the average free agent who is only looking at team situation.

Originally posted by Niners99:
I think its WAY more likely they convince Burnes to sign here than Sasaki.

Significant monies are involved with Burnes, which is more of the stumbling block than convincing.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Posey came out, unprompted, and said they aren't looking to trade Doval.

As for Burnes, he went to college in the bay area, so he might be more interested in signing here than the average free agent who is only looking at team situation.

Of course he'll immediately come out and say that to shut the rumors down. I wouldn't expect anything else for him to say. Does it mean anything? Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Niners99:
.230 avg, 20 HR, 80 RBI's type guy at Oracle would be my guess. Milwaukee is a pretty live yard. It's going to be tough for any big money free agent hitter to really be worth their contract here. I wish we could land an elite guy for once. Id rather overpay for a legit star than pay 180 mil for a 20/80 guy.

i don't agree with this thinking on our yard. for example, in 2021 we led the NL in homers with this yard.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Niners99:
.230 avg, 20 HR, 80 RBI's type guy at Oracle would be my guess. Milwaukee is a pretty live yard. It's going to be tough for any big money free agent hitter to really be worth their contract here. I wish we could land an elite guy for once. Id rather overpay for a legit star than pay 180 mil for a 20/80 guy.

i don't agree with this thinking on our yard. for example, in 2021 we led the NL in homers with this yard.

What was the highest homer count by a player? It was under 30.

having a bunch of people capable of hitting 15-20 isn't the same as a guy hitting 30-40.

silly take given the proven numbers lol

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
What was the highest homer count by a player? It was under 30.

having a bunch of people capable of hitting 15-20 isn't the same as a guy hitting 30-40.

silly take given the proven numbers lol

if you want a single guy hitting bombs, we had that too. the all time home run leader. you may recall the strongest home run season of all time, it was our yard as the home yard. 37 at home and 36 away. so whether it's a single guy doing it or a team doing it, we've seen it folks. the yard is an excuse, but it's not the reason why we don't hit em. need good hitters.

The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Vlad, Jr. 1 year, 14.5M. Toronto doesn't want to give him a new deal, give Toronto something that will interest them. Place Vlad at 1st base for the year, with hopefully provision for Eldrige taking over next year. Vlad blossoms, Giants get huge reward for a year and he gets paid. He doesn't, Giants are not attached to him beyond next year. Little risk, maybe high reward. Put Wade Jr. at DH, will spare his knees and keep him much fresher. With Wilmer backing both 1st and DH. Imagine the lineup of two table setters in Lee and Wade Jr. or Fitz and Adames, Vlad Jr, Chapman and Ramos batting 3-6. Fitz or Wade Jr. who doesn't bat 2nd, is 7th, Yaz 8th Bailey 9th. Not a bad lineup.