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Originally posted by DaBum:

Why shouldn't LeBron try to influence. You think MJ wouldn't if he played in this FA era? Do want you got to to get the stars a team needs in today's game. There's advantages to being the best player in the game and they aren't all on the court.

I don't think MJ would. He has a bigger ego and killer mentality than Lebron does. MJ didn't want to share the spotlight with other stars in a super team, he was the super team. Hell, the guy came out of retirement to play with Rip Hamilton, Christian Laettner and Ty Lue because he seriously believed he could elevate that team of scrubs by himself.

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Does Lebron fund Klutch Sports? If so, he is essentially part of AD's agent team. Seems hella weird...

Barkley was calling out lebron on inside the nba. Says silver should investigate

Lebron supposedly has no financial stake in Klutch Sports, but we all know the influence is there.

Any instance where a Klutch Sport FA left his team to join Lebron's team or demanded to be traded to Lebron's team before this current situation with AD?

This may be the first direct instance but cmon man, you think we are all so naive to think that this is all happening in a linear process, independent of Lebrons desires and wishes? Give me a break.

And PS. I dont begrudge it. i think its fine. thats what the NBA is. Players rule in spite of the best intentions of the office and the owners.

But Barkley is saying something different. He's implying Lebron is pulling the strings here (and is practically AD's agent).

Is Lebron recruiting players - absolutely. That option is available to every player and many players do so openly but are never scrutinized.

Originally posted by JustinMT:

Originally posted by DaBum:

Why shouldn't LeBron try to influence. You think MJ wouldn't if he played in this FA era? Do want you got to to get the stars a team needs in today's game. There's advantages to being the best player in the game and they aren't all on the court.

I don't think MJ would. He has a bigger ego and killer mentality than Lebron does. MJ didn't want to share the spotlight with other stars in a super team, he was the super team. Hell, the guy came out of retirement to play with Rip Hamilton, Christian Laettner and Ty Lue because he seriously believed he could elevate that team of scrubs by himself.

Jordan did lobby for FAs and Bulls to trade for certain players.

In a May 1991 story for USA Today, Peter Vecsey wrote:

Less than three months ago, Michael Jordan and those of us in the media who worship at the few remaining follicles of Air Supremacy, regularly rebuked Bulls GM Jerry Krause for failing to measure the bench to title specifications.

Krause felt his offseason pickups of Dennis Hopson and Cliff Levingston upgraded Chicago from a perennial Eastern Conference runner-up to an authentic title contender.

Both Jordan and Krause were wrong, one louder than the other. But who's quibbling about amplification?

So what if management didn't adhere to Air Supremacy's public outcry for Walter Davis or LaSalle Thompson? So what if Levingston and Hopson are coach Phil Jackson's 10th and 11th men? All that's supposed to count is the Bulls are undefeated and nearly unscored upon in the playoffs and, considering the injuries plaguing Detroit and Boston, almost a lock to reach the Finals.


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There is a lot of revisionist history when it comes to all time great players of the past.

Another article:

From a December 1991 story in the Oklahoman:

After learning that NBA veteran and former North Carolina Tar Heel Walter Davis had been traded to Portland and not the Bulls, Jordan responded before a game against the Nets. "As soon as we get back, I'm calling (Jerry) Reinsdorf. Krause has messed everything up again. He can't do anything. " (Two days later before practice, Jordan took off after Krause again. "If I were general manager, we'd be a better team. ")

The story continued:

"I figured I'd try to put the pressure on him to do something about Krause," Jordan said about his first volley of remarks after the team returned from New Jersey in late January. His eyes were hard and cold as he spoke. "This thing isn't over. I'm gonna get that guy fired yet. " Reinsdorf called Jordan and asked him to come over to his North Shore home just before the team left for San Antonio. It was the first time Reinsdorf had ever invited a player to his home.

Reinsdorf recognized that Krause had weaknesses, he told Jordan, but he believed Krause had done an adequate job. "We are in first place," he said. "Jerry's done some good things. He got Scottie (Pippen) and Horace (Grant) in the draft and he got us a center (Bill Cartwright). " Reinsdorf knew Krause could be annoying with his secretive ways, and he knew he wasn't the ideal person to represent the team in public. But he liked Krause's moxie. And the team was winning. So what was the problem?

Jordan insisted that Krause was incapable of making any but the draft-choice deals he'd made, that his lack of personal skills kept him from making serious deals and getting players who could already have helped the Bulls win a title. He wasn't a good judge of talent, Jordan said. The Bulls should have a former player as general manager.

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Imagine any current player saying all this publicly lol

Originally posted by 4ML:

But Barkley is saying something different. He's implying Lebron is pulling the strings here (and is practically AD's agent).

Is Lebron recruiting players - absolutely. That option is available to every player and many players do so openly but are never scrutinized.

That fatass is always given to hyperbole. But yeh, its not implausible to think that Lebron and his camp got together and plotted out, lets get AD to the Lakers, Rich, start by getting AD to switch to Klutch.

Thats Lebron pulling strings. Its both brilliant and beautiful because you cant prove or disprove it lol

Originally posted by 4ML:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Does Lebron fund Klutch Sports? If so, he is essentially part of AD's agent team. Seems hella weird...

Barkley was calling out lebron on inside the nba. Says silver should investigate

No he didn't fund them. Lol
League has already invested this.
Surprised he didn't say Lebron owns Silver also lol

Lol? Rich Paul is his childhood friend. They grew up poor as f**k. You think Paul and Carter and those guys can just s**t out hella cash for the company lol. I know you love bron but come on dude

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

This may be the first direct instance but cmon man, you think we are all so naive to think that this is all happening in a linear process, independent of Lebrons desires and wishes? Give me a break.

And PS. I dont begrudge it. i think its fine. thats what the NBA is. Players rule in spite of the best intentions of the office and the owners.

This. Best post of Blue's life

Originally posted by DaBum:

Why shouldn't LeBron try to influence. You think MJ wouldn't if he played in this FA era? Do want you got to to get the stars a team needs in today's game. There's advantages to being the best player in the game and they aren't all on the court.

No Mj wouldn't do that. His ego was too big and it was a different game.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Jordan did lobby for FAs and Bulls to trade for certain players.

In a May 1991 story for USA Today, Peter Vecsey wrote:

Less than three months ago, Michael Jordan and those of us in the media who worship at the few remaining follicles of Air Supremacy, regularly rebuked Bulls GM Jerry Krause for failing to measure the bench to title specifications.

Krause felt his offseason pickups of Dennis Hopson and Cliff Levingston upgraded Chicago from a perennial Eastern Conference runner-up to an authentic title contender.

Both Jordan and Krause were wrong, one louder than the other. But who's quibbling about amplification?

So what if management didn't adhere to Air Supremacy's public outcry for Walter Davis or LaSalle Thompson? So what if Levingston and Hopson are coach Phil Jackson's 10th and 11th men? All that's supposed to count is the Bulls are undefeated and nearly unscored upon in the playoffs and, considering the injuries plaguing Detroit and Boston, almost a lock to reach the Finals.


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There is a lot of revisionist history when it comes to all time great players of the past.

Walter Davis and Lasalle Thompson lol

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

This may be the first direct instance but cmon man, you think we are all so naive to think that this is all happening in a linear process, independent of Lebrons desires and wishes? Give me a break.

And PS. I dont begrudge it. i think its fine. thats what the NBA is. Players rule in spite of the best intentions of the office and the owners.

This. Best post of Blue's life

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Originally posted by 4ML:
Were they FA from another team? JR resigned after winning a championship and Tristian was a Cavs RFA.

LOL!!!

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

That fatass is always given to hyperbole. But yeh, its not implausible to think that Lebron and his camp got together and plotted out, lets get AD to the Lakers, Rich, start by getting AD to switch to Klutch.

Thats Lebron pulling strings. Its both brilliant and beautiful because you cant prove or disprove it lol

It could happen that way. But, I don't think Lebron needs to direct Rich Paul. I think Rich Paul can come to that conclusion all by himself. Hey, let me target a top 10 player stuck in a bad situation who will be a UFA soon and sell him on the idea to play for a team that can contend for chips with another top 5 player.

With PG, Kawhi, and Kyrie demanding trade with more than a year left on their contracts - it made sense to apply the same strategy with AD.

I don't think this is some masterplan. This is what agents do.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Were they FA from another team? JR resigned after winning a championship and Tristian was a Cavs RFA.

LOL!!!

4ML, come on dude. Your homerism is out of control. You really think JR came back without Lebron wanting him back and do you really think Gilbert gives Tristan that overpaid contract without Lebron's influence? Come on...

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 4ML:

Jordan did lobby for FAs and Bulls to trade for certain players.

In a May 1991 story for USA Today, Peter Vecsey wrote:

Less than three months ago, Michael Jordan and those of us in the media who worship at the few remaining follicles of Air Supremacy, regularly rebuked Bulls GM Jerry Krause for failing to measure the bench to title specifications.

Krause felt his offseason pickups of Dennis Hopson and Cliff Levingston upgraded Chicago from a perennial Eastern Conference runner-up to an authentic title contender.

Both Jordan and Krause were wrong, one louder than the other. But who's quibbling about amplification?

So what if management didn't adhere to Air Supremacy's public outcry for Walter Davis or LaSalle Thompson? So what if Levingston and Hopson are coach Phil Jackson's 10th and 11th men? All that's supposed to count is the Bulls are undefeated and nearly unscored upon in the playoffs and, considering the injuries plaguing Detroit and Boston, almost a lock to reach the Finals.


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There is a lot of revisionist history when it comes to all time great players of the past.

Walter Davis and Lasalle Thompson lol

Lol it was a different time. Top players weren't available in FA. And, Walter Davis was a pretty damn good player.

Originally posted by 4ML:

Lol it was a different time. Top players weren't available in FA. And, Walter Davis was a pretty damn good player.

Bro, that isn't the same thing and you know it my dude lol