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For those old enough to remember, who would win (based on today's rule): GS v CHI

For those old enough to remember, who would win (based on today's rule): GS v CHI

Originally posted by jimrat:
The matchups
Draymond and Rodman
Durant and Pippin
Nobody can guard Jordan
Curry would run circles around Harper

Don't know about that. Harper was a very long, good defender when he switched to PG. i think he'd give curry problems. If not then Jordan or Pippen could switch over. My take is CHI in 6
Chi small lineup vs the death lineup? Hmmmmmm, very interesting.
The Warriors in 4-5 games under today's rules. The Warriors in 6-7 games in the 90s rules. The game has advanced quite a bit over the past 20 years. There weren't any 7 footers who could handle and shoot the ball like Durant back in the 90s and Curry and Thompson would give Chicago fits. Teams back then would be completely unprepared to guard against a team that can shoot the ball like the Warriors. You'd have to give the Bulls months to work on close-outs to even stand a chance at home.

I also don't buy for a second that the Warriors wouldn't be able to match the physicality of the 90s. Green and Zaza would be the two strongest players on the court. At 6'7 220 without a great vertical jump, Rodman was able to dominate in rebounding in the 90s. The NBA today is more talented than it was in the 90s and it was more talented in the 90s than it was in the 60s and 70s when Wilt and Robertson were dominant. 20-30 years from now, there will probably be a team that could wipe the floor with the Warriors or Bulls.

Jordan would be a problem for the Warriors, but the Warriors have too much firepower and Chicago's bigs would be useless in this game. Draymond Green and Dennis Rodman would cancel each other out in the 90s, but Draymond's game in more effective in today's NBA. Durant is way more talented than Pippen. Curry and Thompson combined are a close match for Harper and Jordan. Benches are pretty even, but the Warriors may even have an edge here with Livingston, Iguodala, and McGee.

The 95-96 Bulls versus the 2000-2001 Lakers or the modern day Cavs would be interesting. 2001 Shaq would be the most dominant player in any of those matchups.
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Not doubting an experienced Jordan and Pippen in a 7 game series, they were not only offensive weapons but HOF defenders that could equal and slow down Durant and Curry enough to change the outcome of a matchup. Defensively you know Rodman would lockdown the paint get his rebounds and get in the head of and render Green useless. Harper was an amazing defender as well as a deadly scorer, he could easily match up with Klay, they would cancel each other out. Kerr and Kukoc were incredibly skilled and talented players that both would benefit greatly from the new rules. Coaching wise you have Phil a HOF HC who after coaching old Kerr will know how to abuse him today.

The Bulls were a mean and tough team that would figure out your Achilles heal and abuse you with it and the only truly unstoppable guy on that floor that can go for 60 at any moment is also playing for the Bulls.

It'd be a better series than the current one against the LeBron but I think Bulls in 6.
[ Edited by jcs on Jun 6, 2017 at 5:32 PM ]
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
The Warriors in 4-5 games under today's rules. The Warriors in 6-7 games in the 90s rules. The game has advanced quite a bit over the past 20 years. There weren't any 7 footers who could handle and shoot the ball like Durant back in the 90s and Curry and Thompson would give Chicago fits. Teams back then would be completely unprepared to guard against a team that can shoot the ball like the Warriors. You'd have to give the Bulls months to work on close-outs to even stand a chance at home.

I also don't buy for a second that the Warriors wouldn't be able to match the physicality of the 90s. Green and Zaza would be the two strongest players on the court. At 6'7 220 without a great vertical jump, Rodman was able to dominate in rebounding in the 90s. The NBA today is more talented than it was in the 90s and it was more talented in the 90s than it was in the 60s and 70s when Wilt and Robertson were dominant. 20-30 years from now, there will probably be a team that could wipe the floor with the Warriors or Bulls.

Jordan would be a problem for the Warriors, but the Warriors have too much firepower and Chicago's bigs would be useless in this game. Draymond Green and Dennis Rodman would cancel each other out in the 90s, but Draymond's game in more effective in today's NBA. Durant is way more talented than Pippen. Curry and Thompson combined are a close match for Harper and Jordan. Benches are pretty even, but the Warriors may even have an edge here with Livingston, Iguodala, and McGee.

The 95-96 Bulls versus the 2000-2001 Lakers or the modern day Cavs would be interesting. 2001 Shaq would be the most dominant player in any of those matchups.
Shaq was already dominated by the bulls and Rodman who gave him absolute fits when he was in Orlando. Lets be honest if MJ didn't retire twice they could have gone on a run of 8-9 Championships in a row.
Originally posted by jcs:
Shaq was already dominated by the bulls and Rodman who gave him absolute fits when he was in Orlando. Lets be honest if MJ didn't retire twice they could have gone on a run of 8-9 Championships in a row.

Can't really cite the mid-90s, non-triangle offense, sans-Kobe Shaq to the early-00s Shaq that had all these plus more years under his belt (and Phil coaching him) if you're gonna match him against the dynasty Bulls
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Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Can't really cite the mid-90s, non-triangle offense, sans-Kobe Shaq to the early-00s Shaq that had all these plus more years under his belt (and Phil coaching him) if you're gonna match him against the dynasty Bulls

Still not doubting Rodman....HOFer who was an absolute master at getting in peoples heads.

[ Edited by jcs on Jun 6, 2017 at 5:48 PM ]
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Can't really cite the mid-90s, non-triangle offense, sans-Kobe Shaq to the early-00s Shaq that had all these plus more years under his belt (and Phil coaching him) if you're gonna match him against the dynasty Bulls

Still not doubting Rodman....HOFer who was an absolute master at getting in peoples heads.


James worthy also called rodman the best athlete he's ever played against
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Can't really cite the mid-90s, non-triangle offense, sans-Kobe Shaq to the early-00s Shaq that had all these plus more years under his belt (and Phil coaching him) if you're gonna match him against the dynasty Bulls

Still not doubting Rodman....HOFer who was an absolute master at getting in peoples heads.


It's funny that the video keeps pointing to illegal defense calls and saying Shaq would have shot worse if not for illegal defense. But the reason those illegal defense calls kept happening was because Rodman had no chance in hell at guarding Shaq without help. The Bulls regularly doubled and triple teamed him. Shaq just wasn't a great passer back then and Orlando did a terrible job spacing the floor and allowing the Bulls to collapse the paint.

It would have been really interesting to see him on a team like the modern Warriors/Rockets where he'd be surrounded by shooters with space to operate. The Magic did that with Howard early in his career with a lot of success and he was nowhere near as big or as talented as Shaq.

I only saw 1 game in that video with Shaq against Rodman when he was on the Lakers. Guessing they played more than once. Not really an objective video as the creator points out at the beginning.
[ Edited by eastcoast49ersfan on Jun 6, 2017 at 6:32 PM ]
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Can't really cite the mid-90s, non-triangle offense, sans-Kobe Shaq to the early-00s Shaq that had all these plus more years under his belt (and Phil coaching him) if you're gonna match him against the dynasty Bulls

Still not doubting Rodman....HOFer who was an absolute master at getting in peoples heads.


It's funny that the video keeps pointing to illegal defense calls and saying Shaq would have shot worse if not for illegal defense. But the reason those illegal defense calls kept happening was because Rodman had no chance in hell at guarding Shaq without help. The Bulls regularly doubled and triple teamed him. Shaq just wasn't a great passer back then and Orlando did a terrible job spacing the floor and allowing the Bulls to collapse the paint.

It would have been really interesting to see him on a team like the modern Warriors/Rockets where he'd be surrounded by shooters with space to operate. The Magic did that with Howard early in his career with a lot of success and he was nowhere near as big or as talented as Shaq.

I only saw 1 game in that video with Shaq against Rodman when he was on the Lakers. Guessing they played more than once. Not really an objective video as the creator points out at the beginning.

Still doesn't change the fact that Rodman has gotten the better of Shaq in their historic matchups.

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Its a tossup imo. Can't say for sure because the style of basketball is so much different, and the way the rosters are constructed reflects that. Players have different skill sets.

Based on efficiency numbers and advanced stats, they are about equal in terms of dominance over the competition.

Based on matchups, I'd give the Bulls a slight edge even as a Dubs fan. They would slow the game down to a degree. Jordan can score over anyone and defeat any defense. Pippen was an all-around stud. Rodman would be hell defensively and on the boards. But the Dubs would seriously challenge because of all the ways they can attack offensively. If the Dubs could play to their pace, the 3 point disparity would be huge in their favor. Can't beat simple math. But Jordan is the deciding factor for me.
The Bulls played great D, they were known as the Doberman Pincher Defense. Jordon could shut down anyone and Pippin wasn't far off. I forget how many times Rodman won defensive player of the year. Today's game there is no defense, you touch someone and it's free throws. These eras used to go in cycles but the way the game is set up 18 and 19 years are one and done and never learn how to play the game. In this cyber age you're the GOAT until you get beat and then it's on to the next.
Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were three studs and Jordan is the GOAT.

Hard to go against that squad. Many good teams tried and failed.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jun 6, 2017 at 10:00 PM ]
Curry would double dribble, carry and travel his way to an NBA title with todays rules
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