Jarryd Hayne going to jail.

I've been really happy to see Hayne get his chance and to play well. But this yr is a different story, and Hayne will have to bring his A game toi the 9ers this yr or it will be a short stay. There is some serious competition this yr at RB and the unexpected appearance of Sean and Draughn from Wal mart and a used car lot after being cut from the PS of their former teams....That has made for some serious talent at RB and i haven't even mentioned Davis with the 3 yr contract, altho he is not the same caliber as Sean and draughn...nor Hyde.

Hayne got some good snaps at PR last yr altho he did put a few balls on the ground. Still, he looked good and I wish he had just stayed put, but unfortunately, FO saw fit to put him on PS. He was then moved back to the squad, but last yr, a throw away yr was the perfect yr to let him play. So instead of getting a goodly # of snaps, he got fewer. To me he seemed a natural as a PR and i liked him as KO returner also. Breaking into the role as a starter behind Hyde is going to be tough. So i hope to see him out there returning punts and Kickoffs. BReaking into the starting RB rotation is going to be tough...so hopefully Hayne nails down the return game and sooner or later will get his chance at RB. But it would be great to see Hayne out there returning punts and KOs and showing off his natural ability that we saw last yr. And who knows,...chip likes to use RBs in passing game and Hayne may get the call earlier to see how he does in that capacity. I am hoping good things for him and from him. But he has to bring his
A game; IF he does that he will get his PT.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Aparantly the ST coach has zero influence on the special teams play. Basically he is there to say go get em boys rah rah rah

according to HOF and usual suspect in the forum noted in

Everybody knows this about ST coaches. You don't, cuz you don't know the game that well yet still dismiss anybody trying to help explain it to you. lol

Sanctimonious bull crap. Is what gets people upset, not logical explanations.

One doesn't need 20 years experience playing or in most posters experience watching a sport to be able to id a s**t coach when one see him.

Even if as you say he may not influence the plays, he can influence the phycology of the elite athletes he has under his charge, and throwing two of his players effectively under thE buss publicly in the media is not how to encourage the playing group.

I am dealing with in my business what many would say are not elite staff, and I know the best way to motivate and support them is certainly not to put the guy down in fornt of his work mates let alone in the local media. Not only that I would not be employing a staff manager who just goes around saying "lets go boys lets go"


If it's the case like you state, then why have a ST coach at all? If it's a business, then why pay a 6figure salary to what you say is an effective cheerleader?

Your point is simplistic if inthe extreme, for a complex league or chess like game.

Nothing personal on you , but have heard enough of the simple argument that a ST coach has no real input to the players or team outcome. Cause that dont wash in my view.

StUff like chips reference to articles on the difference between PR and KR rolls that is good use of a post. helps the new guys like me to learn.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I've been really happy to see Hayne get his chance and to play well. But this yr is a different story, and Hayne will have to bring his A game toi the 9ers this yr or it will be a short stay. There is some serious competition this yr at RB and the unexpected appearance of Sean and Draughn from Wal mart and a used car lot after being cut from the PS of their former teams....That has made for some serious talent at RB and i haven't even mentioned Davis with the 3 yr contract, altho he is not the same caliber as Sean and draughn...nor Hyde.

Hayne got some good snaps at PR last yr altho he did put a few balls on the ground. Still, he looked good and I wish he had just stayed put, but unfortunately, FO saw fit to put him on PS. He was then moved back to the squad, but last yr, a throw away yr was the perfect yr to let him play. So instead of getting a goodly # of snaps, he got fewer. To me he seemed a natural as a PR and i liked him as KO returner also. Breaking into the role as a starter behind Hyde is going to be tough. So i hope to see him out there returning punts and Kickoffs. BReaking into the starting RB rotation is going to be tough...so hopefully Hayne nails down the return game and sooner or later will get his chance at RB. But it would be great to see Hayne out there returning punts and KOs and showing off his natural ability that we saw last yr. And who knows,...chip likes to use RBs in passing game and Hayne may get the call earlier to see how he does in that capacity. I am hoping good things for him and from him. But he has to bring his
A game; IF he does that he will get his PT.

That is a pretty fair take. Though he did only grass one ball at PR. One he didn't get to because his team mate barrelled him instead of looking where he was going and a third was stolen from behind which was a good lesson for him on ball security. Ellington dropped a lot more fair and square and was a scared rabbit.

He improved a lot at RB but you are right he will have to lift his game to get a gig at 2nd or 3rd RB. I am confident he will. He has been training hard in the off season so far.

It will be a good year for him. He is more explosive than Draugh and more robust than Harris, though Harris made the best of his opportunities last year to his credit.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MFWIC:
Aparantly the ST coach has zero influence on the special teams play. Basically he is there to say go get em boys rah rah rah

according to HOF and usual suspect in the forum noted in

Everybody knows this about ST coaches. You don't, cuz you don't know the game that well yet still dismiss anybody trying to help explain it to you. lol

Lol I will take the 5th

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Aparantly the ST coach has zero influence on the special teams play. Basically he is there to say go get em boys rah rah rah

according to HOF and usual suspect in the forum noted in

Everybody knows this about ST coaches. You don't, cuz you don't know the game that well yet still dismiss anybody trying to help explain it to you. lol

Sanctimonious bull crap. Is what gets people upset, not logical explanations.

One doesn't need 20 years experience playing or in most posters experience watching a sport to be able to id a s**t coach when one see him.

Even if as you say he may not influence the plays, he can influence the phycology of the elite athletes he has under his charge, and throwing two of his players effectively under thE buss publicly in the media is not how to encourage the playing group.

I am dealing with in my business what many would say are not elite staff, and I know the best way to motivate and support them is certainly not to put the guy down in fornt of his work mates let alone in the local media. Not only that I would not be employing a staff manager who just goes around saying "lets go boys lets go"


If it's the case like you state, then why have a ST coach at all? If it's a business, then why pay a 6figure salary to what you say is an effective cheerleader?

Your point is simplistic if inthe extreme, for a complex league or chess like game.

Nothing personal on you , but have heard enough of the simple argument that a ST coach has no real input to the players or team outcome. Cause that dont wash in my view.

StUff like chips reference to articles on the difference between PR and KR rolls that is good use of a post. helps the new guys like me to learn.

Like I said, things are explained to you and yet you still choose to not believe them. And that's fine, but it doesn't make you correct. You get your panties in a bunch about McG and how horrible he is, yet another franchise brought him right on to coach their squad. Not a franchise that got turned up side down like ours, but the defending conference champions. My guess is they know just a little more about the game than you. But I know. I get your thing. You think you're smarter than everybody about everything. I'm sure you think you know more than the front office of multiple NFL franchises. It must be so wonderful to be you and your opinion. lol

Tonight on 60 mins CH9 ( AUS)
Carl Stephanovic does an interview with Hayne

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Like I said, things are explained to you and yet you still choose to not believe them. And that's fine, but it doesn't make you correct. You get your panties in a bunch about McG and how horrible he is, yet another franchise brought him right on to coach their squad. Not a franchise that got turned up side down like ours, but the defending conference champions. My guess is they know just a little more about the game than you. But I know. I get your thing. You think you're smarter than everybody about everything. I'm sure you think you know more than the front office of multiple NFL franchises. It must be so wonderful to be you and your opinion. lol

Hey Chaz. Can you explain why the other team would have picked up TMac? Is the ST coaching stack that bad. After all the performance of the niners was terrible in that area. Penalties, fumbles, no TDs from returns, only bright spot was the MVP.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Like I said, things are explained to you and yet you still choose to not believe them. And that's fine, but it doesn't make you correct. You get your panties in a bunch about McG and how horrible he is, yet another franchise brought him right on to coach their squad. Not a franchise that got turned up side down like ours, but the defending conference champions. My guess is they know just a little more about the game than you. But I know. I get your thing. You think you're smarter than everybody about everything. I'm sure you think you know more than the front office of multiple NFL franchises. It must be so wonderful to be you and your opinion. lol

Everyone on the forum has an opinion, hence the term "forum" and are able to,express it, some more susinctly then others. Those that can't tend to play the man not the ball.

For some reason you seem to be thinking you speak for the whole NFL and in some cases this forum as well.... How wonderful for you, lol.

I am not saying I know better then front office of multiple franchise. So you can stop speaking on behalf thank you very kuch.

What I am actually asking is how a guy can go from being sacked from the worst performing team to getting a job in a franchise that played in the SB.

All,you have stated is vitrol towards the question and me for that matter, but not actually given a legit reason on how he can go straight from 49ers to panthers. Without bringing Hayne into your point as well.

One can't have it both ways, with saying the st coach has not impact on the squad or plays and then says the panthers saw he was great so picked him up...

Who gunna pay 6 figures for a male cheer leader?

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by MFWIC:

Aparantly the ST coach has zero influence on the special teams play. Basically he is there to say go get em boys rah rah rah

according to HOF and usual suspect in the forum noted in

Everybody knows this about ST coaches. You don't, cuz you don't know the game that well yet still dismiss anybody trying to help explain it to you. lol

Lol I will take the 5th

You are not a yank, so you can't.

Originally posted by MFWIC:

What I am actually asking is how a guy can go from being sacked from the worst performing team to getting a job in a franchise that played in the SB.

Just because a guy coaches on a bad team and his squad wasn't great doesn't mean that person is not skilled or able to do a job. Sometimes you just have a bad year. From head coaches, to coordinators, to position coaches. It happens.

One can't have it both ways, with saying the st coach has not impact on the squad or plays and then says the panthers saw he was great so picked him up...

Who said he was great? He's a coach. Coaches get jobs because of their relationships with other coaches. A person on the carolina staff most likely has worked with him before and brought him on when he became available. And nobody said those coaches have no impact. I believe I said 90% of all special teams play is what the players make happen. Unless there is a trick play, it's kicker kick it and you guys go tackle. And maybe 2 or 3 times a year you'll see a trick play. Other than that, it's kick it and go tackle. The ST coach is there to pump those guys up.

Who gunna pay 6 figures for a male cheer leader?

32 NFL teams

The emporer has no clothes.

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

The emporer has no clothes.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

The emporer has no clothes.

Unless of course you are the emporer. Then you look magnificent.

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
The emporer has no clothes.

Unless of course you are the emporer. Then you look magnificent.

OH DEAR OH DEAR, BEEN OUT THE DOOR FOR ONLY A TAD LONG AND YOU KIDS ARE SQUABBLING, HAYNE WOULD BE ASHAMED!!