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Originally posted by Kolohe:
So BJJ hasn't evolved then. that's what you're saying......do you even Jits bro!!!

Keep telling me BJJ hasn't evolved and you're gonna keep showing me that you know nothing about BJJ. I'll tell you right now if Royce Gracie was to challenge someone like Marcelo Garcia, Vinny Magalhales or even Braulio Estima he would get schooled....why because BJJ has evolved, it's no longer a simple close guard - cross collar choke anymore it's a lot of open guard and 50/50 guard to heel hooks now.

I used to roll and im actually freinds with a bjj instructor out of Texas. You change and adapt via your opponents but bjj has not changed. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Not everyone is limber enough to utilize a rubber guard. Just like not everyone has the proper leg size to sink in an effective triangle choke.

Most of today's focus is on bjj defense. People dont roll as much as they used to.
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Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What are you even arguing jedediah? I think you're farther than the point of my post' than ever. lol

My main point to my arguments have been:

1. Would prime Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

2. Would present Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

It seems like your post took a left turn somewhere and got lost. lol

What turn? I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying the entire time.

You don't seem to understand that prepping for and winning a tournament is much harder than prepping for and winning a single fight. You prep for a single fight, you get to study hours of film, plan your fight to counter your opponents strengths, etc... You can't do that in a tournament because you don't know who you're fighting...

And doing it with no weight class restrictions, while being the smallest guy in the tournament is even harder. And doing it with no rules against striking certain body parts, or using the gi for leverage, etc is harder than fighting in today's UFC with all the rules and restrictions. And he won the tournament three times.

You can claim it was because nobody knew how to defend his style -- the first time -- but not the second and third time. Ask Ken Shamrock, who trained in BJJ after he got beat the first time, and then got beat again but got called a draw because of -- guess what -- time limit.

Would today's fighters win back then, when they fought multiple times in a day, against opponents they couldn't prepare for? Today's fighters lose 40% of their matches to replacement fighters who haven't even been training for the fight... and that's with more than a month's notice. s**t, who was that dude a few years ago who won the championship as a replacement fighter?

http://www.betmma.tips/ufc_late_replacement_fight_stats.php

Would a 50 year old win in today's UFC? Really?

One of his two losses came when he was 40 years old. The other came when he was 35. Royce in his prime would submit every fighter in today's UFC, no question.

Like I said you're side tracking from what my argument was geared toward. No one is questioning Royce Gracie as a fighter, nowhere in any of my post did I do that.

It's a simple question or questions, would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC. And you keep going on about how Royce had to do this or that, I don't care about any of that, WOULD HE WIN IN TODAY'S UFC!!!!

FYI you were jumping into the conversation between JBrack and I then totally miss the point to our conversation. lol

And you totally just proved you're arguing without even reading the post, since I answered you.

Still unable to answer the question directly without beating around the bush.

My reason for not replying to all that you've mentioned, again that's not what I'm arguing against. It' like you post other things to avoid my question, hoping I'm gonna somehow take things outta context and argue a different angle.

Here let me repeat this for you one last time before I choose to move on with my life.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

I've answered and refuted that question. What say you?

I literally answered you, in a very straightforward way. Perhaps read the whole post.

Perhaps keep avoiding the question.

Not sure what's so hard in answering it instead of continuing to post things like this.

Again, read the post. Hell, you don't even have to read the entire post, just the last part of it. I answered both your questions, very directly. Not so sure whats so hard about reading the post. You quoted it, the least you can do is read it.

And I'm telling you that your post has nothing to do with my question/s.

Do me a favor and can you put it in bold black letters on the point you're trying to make, that's all I ask?

You can go ahead and tease me about reading comprehension all you want, but just do that for me and let's see if you did in fact answer it. Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by JBrack:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
So BJJ hasn't evolved then. that's what you're saying......do you even Jits bro!!!

Keep telling me BJJ hasn't evolved and you're gonna keep showing me that you know nothing about BJJ. I'll tell you right now if Royce Gracie was to challenge someone like Marcelo Garcia, Vinny Magalhales or even Braulio Estima he would get schooled....why because BJJ has evolved, it's no longer a simple close guard - cross collar choke anymore it's a lot of open guard and 50/50 guard to heel hooks now.

I used to roll and im actually freinds with a bjj instructor out of Texas. You change and adapt via your opponents but bjj has not changed. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Not everyone is limber enough to utilize a rubber guard. Just like not everyone has the proper leg size to sink in an effective triangle choke.

Most of today's focus is on bjj defense. People dont roll as much as they used to.

lol what!!!

I'm 5'5" and I triangle 6' foot opponents on the daily, not sure what you're talking about. Here's how I know you don't roll, by saying not everyone has the proper leg size. For one, when you cross the opponents arm while in Teepee guard you hold on to your knee and ankle (on the cross leg) and scoot back making it able to lock up the triangle. And some times you won't even need to lock it up all the way, it get's tighter when you scoot back. That's BJJ fundamentals right there.

Also we don't call BJJ instructors......instructors, we call them Professors. For instance my coach who's a Brown belt got promoted to Black a little while ago and we don't call him coach anymore we call him Professor.

lol you use to roll. Haha.

#The Mission:Submission
Exactly you are 5'5. Im 6'1. The leg length is key here, particularly the length of the upper leg and Thigh area. The longer the span of the leg the the bigger the hole you have the opponent in.

And you say I never rolled? Bro thats day one s**t Mr. roller. Lol, obviously you don't know what you claim to know.

He is me freind not my master. I just call him John. Lol
[ Edited by JBrack on Feb 16, 2017 at 5:30 PM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What are you even arguing jedediah? I think you're farther than the point of my post' than ever. lol

My main point to my arguments have been:

1. Would prime Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

2. Would present Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

It seems like your post took a left turn somewhere and got lost. lol

What turn? I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying the entire time.

You don't seem to understand that prepping for and winning a tournament is much harder than prepping for and winning a single fight. You prep for a single fight, you get to study hours of film, plan your fight to counter your opponents strengths, etc... You can't do that in a tournament because you don't know who you're fighting...

And doing it with no weight class restrictions, while being the smallest guy in the tournament is even harder. And doing it with no rules against striking certain body parts, or using the gi for leverage, etc is harder than fighting in today's UFC with all the rules and restrictions. And he won the tournament three times.

You can claim it was because nobody knew how to defend his style -- the first time -- but not the second and third time. Ask Ken Shamrock, who trained in BJJ after he got beat the first time, and then got beat again but got called a draw because of -- guess what -- time limit.

Would today's fighters win back then, when they fought multiple times in a day, against opponents they couldn't prepare for? Today's fighters lose 40% of their matches to replacement fighters who haven't even been training for the fight... and that's with more than a month's notice. s**t, who was that dude a few years ago who won the championship as a replacement fighter?

http://www.betmma.tips/ufc_late_replacement_fight_stats.php

Would a 50 year old win in today's UFC? Really?

One of his two losses came when he was 40 years old. The other came when he was 35. Royce in his prime would submit every fighter in today's UFC, no question.

Like I said you're side tracking from what my argument was geared toward. No one is questioning Royce Gracie as a fighter, nowhere in any of my post did I do that.

It's a simple question or questions, would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC. And you keep going on about how Royce had to do this or that, I don't care about any of that, WOULD HE WIN IN TODAY'S UFC!!!!

FYI you were jumping into the conversation between JBrack and I then totally miss the point to our conversation. lol

And you totally just proved you're arguing without even reading the post, since I answered you.

Still unable to answer the question directly without beating around the bush.

My reason for not replying to all that you've mentioned, again that's not what I'm arguing against. It' like you post other things to avoid my question, hoping I'm gonna somehow take things outta context and argue a different angle.

Here let me repeat this for you one last time before I choose to move on with my life.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

I've answered and refuted that question. What say you?

I literally answered you, in a very straightforward way. Perhaps read the whole post.

Perhaps keep avoiding the question.

Not sure what's so hard in answering it instead of continuing to post things like this.

Again, read the post. Hell, you don't even have to read the entire post, just the last part of it. I answered both your questions, very directly. Not so sure whats so hard about reading the post. You quoted it, the least you can do is read it.

And I'm telling you that your post has nothing to do with my question/s.

Do me a favor and can you put it in bold black letters on the point you're trying to make, that's all I ask?

You can go ahead and tease me about reading comprehension all you want, but just do that for me and let's see if you did in fact answer it. Thanks in advance.

Stubborn mule, you are. All you had to do was read it.

It's funny, because even though I don't think a 50 year old man would be very successful in today's UFC, he fought Ken Shamrock in 2016, and won by TKO.
[ Edited by jedediahyork on Feb 16, 2017 at 5:37 PM ]
You ever see people have the triangle locked in but the opponent doesnt tap or seem bothered? Ill give you one guess why!
Royce Gracie in his prime would be very unsuccessful in today's UFC. Just look at the 170lbers who specialize in just jiu jitsu. (or any division as a matter of fact) Are they dominating? NO. There's your answer.

Now if Gracie evolved his game properly in today's UFC in his prime, it might be another story. But the question is how successful would he be in other aspects of MMA today and would his jiu-jitsu suffer?

Hahahaha Gracie TKO'ing a fellow bi-centennial is your basis that he'd be successful today? He beat up an old and roid-riddled shriveled beaten down of a man in Kenny Shamrock after kneeing him in the ballz first. And I wouldn't be surprised if Gracie was on the juice in this fight as he was in his previous fight against Sakuraba what 9 years prior?
[ Edited by fortyninerglory on Feb 16, 2017 at 6:12 PM ]
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Originally posted by JBrack:
Exactly you are 5'5. Im 6'1. The leg length is key here, particularly the length of the upper leg and Thigh area. The longer the span of the leg the the bigger the hole you have the opponent in.

And you say I never rolled? Bro thats day one s**t Mr. roller. Lol, obviously you don't know what you claim to know.

He is me freind not my master. I just call him John. Lol

Leg length has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a triangle. The only time leg length has come into play is when I roll with opponents 230-250 pounds and I can't put them in my close guard. Other than that I triangle these guys on the daily. And I'm talking Gi and No-Gi.

Please stop and your friend is no master because if he is he must be a red belt. Other than that it's professor.

Can I ask you this what are the two things you are not suppose to do when applying an Arm bar?

Here's another BJJ basic question.

When you have someone in your guard what are you suppose to do at all times. And this is a white belt question btw. Lol
[ Edited by Kolohe on Feb 16, 2017 at 6:20 PM ]
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Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What are you even arguing jedediah? I think you're farther than the point of my post' than ever. lol

My main point to my arguments have been:

1. Would prime Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

2. Would present Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

It seems like your post took a left turn somewhere and got lost. lol

What turn? I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying the entire time.

You don't seem to understand that prepping for and winning a tournament is much harder than prepping for and winning a single fight. You prep for a single fight, you get to study hours of film, plan your fight to counter your opponents strengths, etc... You can't do that in a tournament because you don't know who you're fighting...

And doing it with no weight class restrictions, while being the smallest guy in the tournament is even harder. And doing it with no rules against striking certain body parts, or using the gi for leverage, etc is harder than fighting in today's UFC with all the rules and restrictions. And he won the tournament three times.

You can claim it was because nobody knew how to defend his style -- the first time -- but not the second and third time. Ask Ken Shamrock, who trained in BJJ after he got beat the first time, and then got beat again but got called a draw because of -- guess what -- time limit.

Would today's fighters win back then, when they fought multiple times in a day, against opponents they couldn't prepare for? Today's fighters lose 40% of their matches to replacement fighters who haven't even been training for the fight... and that's with more than a month's notice. s**t, who was that dude a few years ago who won the championship as a replacement fighter?

http://www.betmma.tips/ufc_late_replacement_fight_stats.php

Would a 50 year old win in today's UFC? Really?

One of his two losses came when he was 40 years old. The other came when he was 35. Royce in his prime would submit every fighter in today's UFC, no question.

Like I said you're side tracking from what my argument was geared toward. No one is questioning Royce Gracie as a fighter, nowhere in any of my post did I do that.

It's a simple question or questions, would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC. And you keep going on about how Royce had to do this or that, I don't care about any of that, WOULD HE WIN IN TODAY'S UFC!!!!

FYI you were jumping into the conversation between JBrack and I then totally miss the point to our conversation. lol

And you totally just proved you're arguing without even reading the post, since I answered you.

Still unable to answer the question directly without beating around the bush.

My reason for not replying to all that you've mentioned, again that's not what I'm arguing against. It' like you post other things to avoid my question, hoping I'm gonna somehow take things outta context and argue a different angle.

Here let me repeat this for you one last time before I choose to move on with my life.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

I've answered and refuted that question. What say you?

I literally answered you, in a very straightforward way. Perhaps read the whole post.

Perhaps keep avoiding the question.

Not sure what's so hard in answering it instead of continuing to post things like this.

Again, read the post. Hell, you don't even have to read the entire post, just the last part of it. I answered both your questions, very directly. Not so sure whats so hard about reading the post. You quoted it, the least you can do is read it.

And I'm telling you that your post has nothing to do with my question/s.

Do me a favor and can you put it in bold black letters on the point you're trying to make, that's all I ask?

You can go ahead and tease me about reading comprehension all you want, but just do that for me and let's see if you did in fact answer it. Thanks in advance.

Stubborn mule, you are. All you had to do was read it.

It's funny, because even though I don't think a 50 year old man would be very successful in today's UFC, he fought Ken Shamrock in 2016, and won by TKO.

Lol at fighting Ken Shamrock. The question was would a Royce in his prime win in today's UFC?

Not would he win in a Senior citizens bout. Lol
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by JBrack:
Exactly you are 5'5. Im 6'1. The leg length is key here, particularly the length of the upper leg and Thigh area. The longer the span of the leg the the bigger the hole you have the opponent in.

And you say I never rolled? Bro thats day one s**t Mr. roller. Lol, obviously you don't know what you claim to know.

He is me freind not my master. I just call him John. Lol

Leg length has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a triangle. The only time leg length has come into play is when I roll with opponents 230-250 pounds and I can't put them in my close guard. Other than that I triangle these guys on the daily. And I'm talking Gi and No-Gi.

Please stop and your friend is no master because if he is he must be a red belt. Other than that it's professor.

Can I ask you this what are the two things you are not suppose to do when applying an Arm bar?

Here's another BJJ basic question.

When you have someone in your guard what are you suppose to do at all times. And this is a white belt question btw. Lol

Let me take a crack and I have never done MMA before...arm bar question -- don't exert all your energy and try and break someone's arm. Focus on technique and be patient.

in guard -- wrist control as much as possible and stay loose in your hips?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Leg length has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a triangle. The only time leg length has come into play is when I roll with opponents 230-250 pounds and I can't put them in my close guard. Other than that I triangle these guys on the daily. And I'm talking Gi and No-Gi.

Please stop and your friend is no master because if he is he must be a red belt. Other than that it's professor.

Can I ask you this what are the two things you are not suppose to do when applying an Arm bar?

Here's another BJJ basic question.

When you have someone in your guard what are you suppose to do at all times. And this is a white belt question btw. Lol

Your questions are dependent on what your opponent is doing. And I honestly don't care what your teacher teaches you because he obviously isn't telling you the truth. Either that or you fail to understand it. But to tell me leg length has nothing to do with a triangle is absurd. You dont even know that the bigger men help you. Closing up a triangle on skinny people is whats hard with long legs.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What are you even arguing jedediah? I think you're farther than the point of my post' than ever. lol

My main point to my arguments have been:

1. Would prime Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

2. Would present Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

It seems like your post took a left turn somewhere and got lost. lol

What turn? I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying the entire time.

You don't seem to understand that prepping for and winning a tournament is much harder than prepping for and winning a single fight. You prep for a single fight, you get to study hours of film, plan your fight to counter your opponents strengths, etc... You can't do that in a tournament because you don't know who you're fighting...

And doing it with no weight class restrictions, while being the smallest guy in the tournament is even harder. And doing it with no rules against striking certain body parts, or using the gi for leverage, etc is harder than fighting in today's UFC with all the rules and restrictions. And he won the tournament three times.

You can claim it was because nobody knew how to defend his style -- the first time -- but not the second and third time. Ask Ken Shamrock, who trained in BJJ after he got beat the first time, and then got beat again but got called a draw because of -- guess what -- time limit.

Would today's fighters win back then, when they fought multiple times in a day, against opponents they couldn't prepare for? Today's fighters lose 40% of their matches to replacement fighters who haven't even been training for the fight... and that's with more than a month's notice. s**t, who was that dude a few years ago who won the championship as a replacement fighter?

http://www.betmma.tips/ufc_late_replacement_fight_stats.php

Would a 50 year old win in today's UFC? Really?

One of his two losses came when he was 40 years old. The other came when he was 35. Royce in his prime would submit every fighter in today's UFC, no question.

Like I said you're side tracking from what my argument was geared toward. No one is questioning Royce Gracie as a fighter, nowhere in any of my post did I do that.

It's a simple question or questions, would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC. And you keep going on about how Royce had to do this or that, I don't care about any of that, WOULD HE WIN IN TODAY'S UFC!!!!

FYI you were jumping into the conversation between JBrack and I then totally miss the point to our conversation. lol

And you totally just proved you're arguing without even reading the post, since I answered you.

Still unable to answer the question directly without beating around the bush.

My reason for not replying to all that you've mentioned, again that's not what I'm arguing against. It' like you post other things to avoid my question, hoping I'm gonna somehow take things outta context and argue a different angle.

Here let me repeat this for you one last time before I choose to move on with my life.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

I've answered and refuted that question. What say you?

I literally answered you, in a very straightforward way. Perhaps read the whole post.

Perhaps keep avoiding the question.

Not sure what's so hard in answering it instead of continuing to post things like this.

Again, read the post. Hell, you don't even have to read the entire post, just the last part of it. I answered both your questions, very directly. Not so sure whats so hard about reading the post. You quoted it, the least you can do is read it.

And I'm telling you that your post has nothing to do with my question/s.

Do me a favor and can you put it in bold black letters on the point you're trying to make, that's all I ask?

You can go ahead and tease me about reading comprehension all you want, but just do that for me and let's see if you did in fact answer it. Thanks in advance.

Stubborn mule, you are. All you had to do was read it.

It's funny, because even though I don't think a 50 year old man would be very successful in today's UFC, he fought Ken Shamrock in 2016, and won by TKO.

Lol at fighting Ken Shamrock. The question was would a Royce in his prime win in today's UFC?

Not would he win in a Senior citizens bout. Lol

You asked two questions. One was whether Royce would win today, i.e. a 50 year old man.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?
Is Fedor not on the list because he never came to the UFC?
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Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by jedediahyork:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What are you even arguing jedediah? I think you're farther than the point of my post' than ever. lol

My main point to my arguments have been:

1. Would prime Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

2. Would present Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

It seems like your post took a left turn somewhere and got lost. lol

What turn? I'm saying the exact same thing I've been saying the entire time.

You don't seem to understand that prepping for and winning a tournament is much harder than prepping for and winning a single fight. You prep for a single fight, you get to study hours of film, plan your fight to counter your opponents strengths, etc... You can't do that in a tournament because you don't know who you're fighting...

And doing it with no weight class restrictions, while being the smallest guy in the tournament is even harder. And doing it with no rules against striking certain body parts, or using the gi for leverage, etc is harder than fighting in today's UFC with all the rules and restrictions. And he won the tournament three times.

You can claim it was because nobody knew how to defend his style -- the first time -- but not the second and third time. Ask Ken Shamrock, who trained in BJJ after he got beat the first time, and then got beat again but got called a draw because of -- guess what -- time limit.

Would today's fighters win back then, when they fought multiple times in a day, against opponents they couldn't prepare for? Today's fighters lose 40% of their matches to replacement fighters who haven't even been training for the fight... and that's with more than a month's notice. s**t, who was that dude a few years ago who won the championship as a replacement fighter?

http://www.betmma.tips/ufc_late_replacement_fight_stats.php

Would a 50 year old win in today's UFC? Really?

One of his two losses came when he was 40 years old. The other came when he was 35. Royce in his prime would submit every fighter in today's UFC, no question.

Like I said you're side tracking from what my argument was geared toward. No one is questioning Royce Gracie as a fighter, nowhere in any of my post did I do that.

It's a simple question or questions, would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC. And you keep going on about how Royce had to do this or that, I don't care about any of that, WOULD HE WIN IN TODAY'S UFC!!!!

FYI you were jumping into the conversation between JBrack and I then totally miss the point to our conversation. lol

And you totally just proved you're arguing without even reading the post, since I answered you.

Still unable to answer the question directly without beating around the bush.

My reason for not replying to all that you've mentioned, again that's not what I'm arguing against. It' like you post other things to avoid my question, hoping I'm gonna somehow take things outta context and argue a different angle.

Here let me repeat this for you one last time before I choose to move on with my life.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

I've answered and refuted that question. What say you?

I literally answered you, in a very straightforward way. Perhaps read the whole post.

Perhaps keep avoiding the question.

Not sure what's so hard in answering it instead of continuing to post things like this.

Again, read the post. Hell, you don't even have to read the entire post, just the last part of it. I answered both your questions, very directly. Not so sure whats so hard about reading the post. You quoted it, the least you can do is read it.

And I'm telling you that your post has nothing to do with my question/s.

Do me a favor and can you put it in bold black letters on the point you're trying to make, that's all I ask?

You can go ahead and tease me about reading comprehension all you want, but just do that for me and let's see if you did in fact answer it. Thanks in advance.

Stubborn mule, you are. All you had to do was read it.

It's funny, because even though I don't think a 50 year old man would be very successful in today's UFC, he fought Ken Shamrock in 2016, and won by TKO.

Lol at fighting Ken Shamrock. The question was would a Royce in his prime win in today's UFC?

Not would he win in a Senior citizens bout. Lol

You asked two questions. One was whether Royce would win today, i.e. a 50 year old man.

Would Royce Gracie win in today's UFC?

or

Would a Royce Gracie in his prime win in today's UFC?

Yes I did, notice where it says the letters 'U' 'F' 'C'.

Well that fight with Shamrock was neither, a fighter in the UFC nor was that fight in the UFC.

So we can both assume the answer to both of the questions asked is NO!!!

Now was that so hard.lol
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Originally posted by JBrack:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Leg length has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a triangle. The only time leg length has come into play is when I roll with opponents 230-250 pounds and I can't put them in my close guard. Other than that I triangle these guys on the daily. And I'm talking Gi and No-Gi.

Please stop and your friend is no master because if he is he must be a red belt. Other than that it's professor.

Can I ask you this what are the two things you are not suppose to do when applying an Arm bar?

Here's another BJJ basic question.

When you have someone in your guard what are you suppose to do at all times. And this is a white belt question btw. Lol

Your questions are dependent on what your opponent is doing. And I honestly don't care what your teacher teaches you because he obviously isn't telling you the truth. Either that or you fail to understand it. But to tell me leg length has nothing to do with a triangle is absurd. You dont even know that the bigger men help you. Closing up a triangle on skinny people is whats hard with long legs.

Where do you train at again or where did you train at again?

Btw you didn't answer my two fundamental questions I asked? lol
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