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2014-15 NBA General Discussion Thread
Dec 16, 2014 at 7:50 PM
- jrg
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2nd youngest player to 15K
Dec 16, 2014 at 8:50 PM
- Dajanksta
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Originally posted by jrg:
http://player.vimeo.com/video/114683794
christmas light show
Almost watched it then I saw "Magic" so I turned it off.
Dec 16, 2014 at 8:51 PM
- jrg
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Originally posted by Dajanksta:Originally posted by jrg:http://player.vimeo.com/video/114683794
christmas light show
Almost watched it then I saw "Magic" so I turned it off.
because you're a homo
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:17 PM
- Antix
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Anybody noticing this weird chemistry between Mark Jackson and whoever tge play by play guy is? A lot of their banter has been really awkward lol.
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:17 PM
- JustinMT
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Jabari Parker has informed teammates he has suffered a torn ACL in his left knee and will miss the rest of the season, sources tell Yahoo.
Dude...
Damn man. Injury bug is catching all the top rooks.
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:19 PM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:Reggie Miller shot 1-16 in Game 1 in part because Kobe completely smothered him. (Kobe also played stretches on Jackson) He was solid on the offensive end in that game as well, although that game was all about Shaq on the offensive end, and didn't shoot much. He had big time games in Game 1, Game 4, & Game 6, while missing most of Game 2 and all of Game 3. The only bad game he had was Game 5, when Shaq was the only guy who showed up. Shaq was a monster, no doubt, but Kobe as also tremendous in that series. People care way too much about FG%.
FG% is pretty damn important IMHO. Higher no. of good possession leads to more wins than not. Efficiency is a huge part of pretty much any sport.
I remember that game well. Miller missed quite a few open shots. It was his first trip to finals and I still remember commentators using that as a reason (excuse) for poor shooting.
IIRC, Austin Croshere had a better series than Kobe Bryant in those Finals.
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:25 PM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by crabman82:Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Jabari Parker has informed teammates he has suffered a torn ACL in his left knee and will miss the rest of the season, sources tell Yahoo.
Wow Bucks were looking decent too this season. Very unlucky.
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:29 PM
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Originally posted by 4ML:Dude everyone knows, Croshere >>>> Kobe
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Reggie Miller shot 1-16 in Game 1 in part because Kobe completely smothered him. (Kobe also played stretches on Jackson) He was solid on the offensive end in that game as well, although that game was all about Shaq on the offensive end, and didn't shoot much. He had big time games in Game 1, Game 4, & Game 6, while missing most of Game 2 and all of Game 3. The only bad game he had was Game 5, when Shaq was the only guy who showed up. Shaq was a monster, no doubt, but Kobe as also tremendous in that series. People care way too much about FG%.
FG% is pretty damn important IMHO. Higher no. of good possession leads to more wins than not. Efficiency is a huge part of pretty much any sport.
I remember that game well. Miller missed quite a few open shots. It was his first trip to finals and I still remember commentators using that as a reason (excuse) for poor shooting.
IIRC, Austin Croshere had a better series than Kobe Bryant in those Finals.
Not even close!
Dec 16, 2014 at 9:38 PM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by JustinMT:Dude everyone knows, Croshere >>>> KobeOriginally posted by 4ML:Originally posted by LA9erFan:Reggie Miller shot 1-16 in Game 1 in part because Kobe completely smothered him. (Kobe also played stretches on Jackson) He was solid on the offensive end in that game as well, although that game was all about Shaq on the offensive end, and didn't shoot much. He had big time games in Game 1, Game 4, & Game 6, while missing most of Game 2 and all of Game 3. The only bad game he had was Game 5, when Shaq was the only guy who showed up. Shaq was a monster, no doubt, but Kobe as also tremendous in that series. People care way too much about FG%.
FG% is pretty damn important IMHO. Higher no. of good possession leads to more wins than not. Efficiency is a huge part of pretty much any sport.
I remember that game well. Miller missed quite a few open shots. It was his first trip to finals and I still remember commentators using that as a reason (excuse) for poor shooting.
IIRC, Austin Croshere had a better series than Kobe Bryant in those Finals.
Not even close!
:)
I was just responding to the comment that Kobe humiliated Reggie. I don't think that ever happen even when Miller was near the end of his career.
Kobe is a legend. This is probably the best era of perimeter talent the game has ever seen. The fact that Miller was probably the best or second best SG (Clyde being the other) Jordan faced in the 90s tell you everything one needs to know the state of the 90s at that position.
And this is coming from a huge Reggie Miller fan.
[ Edited by 4ML on Dec 16, 2014 at 9:39 PM ]
Dec 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by JustinMT:
Originally posted by 4ML:Dude everyone knows, Croshere >>>> Kobe
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Reggie Miller shot 1-16 in Game 1 in part because Kobe completely smothered him. (Kobe also played stretches on Jackson) He was solid on the offensive end in that game as well, although that game was all about Shaq on the offensive end, and didn't shoot much. He had big time games in Game 1, Game 4, & Game 6, while missing most of Game 2 and all of Game 3. The only bad game he had was Game 5, when Shaq was the only guy who showed up. Shaq was a monster, no doubt, but Kobe as also tremendous in that series. People care way too much about FG%.
FG% is pretty damn important IMHO. Higher no. of good possession leads to more wins than not. Efficiency is a huge part of pretty much any sport.
I remember that game well. Miller missed quite a few open shots. It was his first trip to finals and I still remember commentators using that as a reason (excuse) for poor shooting.
IIRC, Austin Croshere had a better series than Kobe Bryant in those Finals.
Not even close!
:)
I was just responding to the comment that Kobe humiliated Reggie. I don't think that ever happen even when Miller was near the end of his career.
Kobe is a legend. This is probably the best era of perimeter talent the game has ever seen. The fact that Miller was probably the best or second best SG (Clyde being the other) Jordan faced in the 90s tell you everything one needs to know the state of the 90s at that position.
And this is coming from a huge Reggie Miller fan.
i think joe dumars was better than reggie miller. loved miller but other than the long ball what else did he do? have a high ft %
Dec 16, 2014 at 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by crabman82:i think joe dumars was better than reggie miller. loved miller but other than the long ball what else did he do? have a high ft %
Reggie Miller had a great mid range game too. Miller was a better and more consistent scorer than Dumars. I think Miller is probably the best pure shooter in the game after Larry legend. Though Curry will take over both when he's done.
Plus...Reggie probably has the most ridiculous clutch moments than any other player I can remember.
[ Edited by 4ML on Dec 16, 2014 at 11:18 PM ]
Dec 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM
- LA9erFan
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Originally posted by 4ML:
FG% is pretty damn important IMHO. Higher no. of good possession leads to more wins than not. Efficiency is a huge part of pretty much any sport.
I remember that game well. Miller missed quite a few open shots. It was his first trip to finals and I still remember commentators using that as a reason (excuse) for poor shooting.
IIRC, Austin Croshere had a better series than Kobe Bryant in those Finals.
FG% isn't important. Points per Possession, both offensively and defensively are what's important. That's it. FG% omits 3 pointers, free throws, turnovers, assists, attention drawn, etc. and doesn't account for 95% of what a player does on the court.
In his prime, Kobe got his teammates tremendous looks, along with being one of the best perimeter defenders in the game. Here's an article from nearly a decade ago, analyzing Kobe's impact on the performance of his teammates. Austin Croshere did not have a better series than Kobe Bryant in the 2000 NBA Finals. Unbelievable. smh http://www.82games.com/pelton13.htm
Dec 17, 2014 at 10:40 AM
- LA9erFan
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And Reggie Miller was at best 5th best SG of his generation, behind Jordan, Drexler, Richmond, & Dumars. He didn't contribute in a single area other than outside shooting at even an average level. Terrible defender, terrible passer, terrible rebounder...he did nothing else. Without the Spike Lee/Knicks encounters, he'd be remembered about as well as Mitch Richmond is.
Dec 17, 2014 at 10:51 AM
- InsertNameHere1
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Dec 17, 2014 at 12:37 PM
- 4ML
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
http://nbahoopsonline.com/Articles/90sg10.html
Check out their list of the top ten SG of the 90s
Yea...I thought it was pretty well known that the top two SGs (after Jordan) of the 90s were Clyde and Reggie.
