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2014-15 Los Angeles Lakers Thread

Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
I didnt gather that from her comment. It was really the one time she showed passion during the interview.

Poor girl was put on the stand. Props to her.

I think she could have used a much better term than "loser" when talking about the free agents that wouldnt want to come play with Kobe.
Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:
Jeanie Buss will be on First Take tommorrow.

She sounded like an absolute idiot. She called anyone he didn't want to play with Kobe a "loser."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/11749819/los-angeles-lakers-president-jeanie-buss-defends-star-kobe-bryant

I don't know man, the only guys to hate playing with Kobe and vocal about it are Ramon Sessions and Smush Parker, and they're both losers in my book. What do you think?

She's not referring to Sessions or Parker, she's referring to FA's that supposedly wouldn't sign with the Lakers because of Kobe: Howard, Bosh, George, Anthony, etc. It's a dumb thing to say, especially when your team can't attract any of the top FA's because you're paying a 36 year old Kobe Bryant max money.

I agree. It was a really dumb thing to say but not surprising.


I didnt gather that from her comment. It was really the one time she showed passion during the interview.

Poor girl was put on the stand. Props to her.

LOL, she agreed to do the interview no one forced her into it. It comes across as sour grapes and her inability to know how to run a franchise, not passion.
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Jeanie has been successfully running the business side of the Lakers for over a decade. She's doing the right thing by standing by the franchise player. And not just any franchise player, the franchise player Kobe Motherf**king Bryant.

It's pretty clear who she's talking about when she mentions players that are afraid to play with the Lakers because of Kobe. There's really only one.

One thing for sure, she's not talking about LeBron or Melo. Those were the only big free agents that the targeted, and it's clear that Kobe or no Kobe, they weren't coming to the Lakers. LeBron made up his mind to go back to Cleveland, and Melo is always about the money, and he got paid in NY.

Sessions has never said anything negative about playing with Kobe. He opted out and was suprised he didn't get a call from the Lakers. Abbott is full of it. Smush lasted about 1 month with the Heat after leaving the Lakers.
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Jeanie also promised in no uncertain terms to initiate a mole hunt and find the person who leaked anything to Abbott....if that person even exists.

Mark Heisler, longtime LA Times beat writer basically shredded Abbott and his "sources" as well. Kevin Ding, another Lakers beat writer basically said that the reasons for the Lakers being down right now were complicated and widespread....and very little of it had to do with Kobe.
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Jed needs to find the mole in his organization as well...whoever it is will bring down the franchise after what we just saw happen to Harbaugh.
Originally posted by kray28:
Jeanie has been successfully running the business side of the Lakers for over a decade. She's doing the right thing by standing by the franchise player. And not just any franchise player, the franchise player Kobe Motherf**king Bryant.

It's pretty clear who she's talking about when she mentions players that are afraid to play with the Lakers because of Kobe. There's really only one.

One thing for sure, she's not talking about LeBron or Melo. Those were the only big free agents that the targeted, and it's clear that Kobe or no Kobe, they weren't coming to the Lakers. LeBron made up his mind to go back to Cleveland, and Melo is always about the money, and he got paid in NY.

Sessions has never said anything negative about playing with Kobe. He opted out and was suprised he didn't get a call from the Lakers. Abbott is full of it. Smush lasted about 1 month with the Heat after leaving the Lakers.

Are you referring to Howard?
Originally posted by kray28:
Jed needs to find the mole in his organization as well...whoever it is will bring down the franchise after what we just saw happen to Harbaugh.

The Harbaugh stuff brought down the Niners? Please. The only thing hurting the Niners right now are major injuries and suspensions to their best defensive players. The only thing bringing down the Lakers right now is paying Kobe a stupid contact and bad front office decisions.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by kray28:
Jed needs to find the mole in his organization as well...whoever it is will bring down the franchise after what we just saw happen to Harbaugh.

The Harbaugh stuff brought down the Niners? Please. The only thing hurting the Niners right now are major injuries and suspensions to their best defensive players. The only thing bringing down the Lakers right now is paying Kobe a stupid contact and bad front office decisions.

Yep, Kobe's not a franchise player anymore and he's getting paid like one.
I absolutely love what Jeanie did, and I really hope she becomes the face of the franchise. She, not Jim, is the actual owner of the Lakers. She hasn't been particularly active in this role the last couple of years, in part due to some tension between her brother and Phil. She's put herself out there a lot more in the last 6 months, and I hope it continues.

You guys are missing the point. It doesn't matter if she's "right" in her perspective. If nothing else, the Lakers are sending a clear signal to future Free Agents that they are going to go to bat for players that produce for the Lakers. They gave Kobe an extension that kept him as the highest player in the league, paying him way more than anyone else could have paid him, while he was in the midst of recovering from a catastrophic injury. They didn't have to...they wanted to. Then, when that guy gets blasted, and she goes on the offensive in the media.

The Lakers are sending a clear message to future FAs that they're loyal to their guys. No one alive understands the Laker brand better than Jeanie does, and I'm thrilled that she's going out there and defending Kobe. I don't care if she's right or not.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I absolutely love what Jeanie did, and I really hope she becomes the face of the franchise. She, not Jim, is the actual owner of the Lakers. She hasn't been particularly active in this role the last couple of years, in part due to some tension between her brother and Phil. She's put herself out there a lot more in the last 6 months, and I hope it continues.

You guys are missing the point. It doesn't matter if she's "right" in her perspective. If nothing else, the Lakers are sending a clear signal to future Free Agents that they are going to go to bat for players that produce for the Lakers. They gave Kobe an extension that kept him as the highest player in the league, paying him way more than anyone else could have paid him, while he was in the midst of recovering from a catastrophic injury. They didn't have to...they wanted to. Then, when that guy gets blasted, and she goes on the offensive in the media.

The Lakers are sending a clear message to future FAs that they're loyal to their guys. No one alive understands the Laker brand better than Jeanie does, and I'm thrilled that she's going out there and defending Kobe. I don't care if she's right or not.

agree with all of this and agree with Jeanie too.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
If the Lakers don't have Kobe, do you think they have a shot at Melo or LeBron?

Durant won't be a FA until after Kobe's extension is up.

I think they would've had a better shot, since it would've been THEIR team and they wouldn't need to worry about their egos getting bruised, especially Melo. I don't think Lebron would've came here because he still wants to win championships. But look at Melo, if he was really that worried about winning a ring, he wouldn't have resigned back with the Knicks. Didn't he have offers from Rockets and Bulls? That should've been a no-brainer for him. He wanted his own team, the money, and being the main star in that city, what lot of top NBA players want.

On top of that, I think if we really don't have a solid roster in place by the time Kobe retires, it will still be hard to get a top FA that year. Why would a Durant, Griffin, Anthony Davis want to leave their team / city where they are the face, to come to place where you will be compared to Kobe and criticized when they miss a game winner, or do poor in the 4th, or don't win a ship, especially if there isn't a good roster set in place. We will romanticize about Kobe when he's gone, like we do about Jordan. We're gonna pretend like Kobe made every game winning shot and was always clutch and won every playoff game, you know the media will...it's gonna be a tough sell.

Like Ninerjohn said, it's gonna be tough until the Kobe era is over, and our best bet is probably to build through the draft and produce the next great Laker instead of trying to buy one.

Lol..Poor things!!! The Horror!!!! Being the face of the city when you're compared to all time greats, criticized if they miss big shots?! That must be terrible, they should go to the Bucks for sure!!! AHHHHH!!!!! Who are you a fan of, just curious?
[ Edited by DynastyChile on Oct 23, 2014 at 1:26 PM ]
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I absolutely love what Jeanie did, and I really hope she becomes the face of the franchise. She, not Jim, is the actual owner of the Lakers. She hasn't been particularly active in this role the last couple of years, in part due to some tension between her brother and Phil. She's put herself out there a lot more in the last 6 months, and I hope it continues.

You guys are missing the point. It doesn't matter if she's "right" in her perspective. If nothing else, the Lakers are sending a clear signal to future Free Agents that they are going to go to bat for players that produce for the Lakers. They gave Kobe an extension that kept him as the highest player in the league, paying him way more than anyone else could have paid him, while he was in the midst of recovering from a catastrophic injury. They didn't have to...they wanted to. Then, when that guy gets blasted, and she goes on the offensive in the media.

The Lakers are sending a clear message to future FAs that they're loyal to their guys. No one alive understands the Laker brand better than Jeanie does, and I'm thrilled that she's going out there and defending Kobe. I don't care if she's right or not.

Again, its fine to support Kobe and say the article is trash. I would expect that. But, I'm not sure its good PR to call anyone who wont play with him a LOSER. Its not true in any case.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Again, its fine to support Kobe and say the article is trash. I would expect that. But, I'm not sure its good PR to call anyone who wont play with him a LOSER. Its not true in any case.

I'm totally fine with it. And I certainly would question the stones of anyone who didn't want to come to LA because of Kobe. Because their current situation is better? Because they could make more money? I have no problem with that. But because they don't want to deal with that big meanie Kobe Bryant, who along with Duncan is the winningest star player of his generation? I'm fine with that dude not coming.

The Lakers biggest problem is that players CAN make more money elsewhere, and they ARE in a better position to win elsewhere.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Again, its fine to support Kobe and say the article is trash. I would expect that. But, I'm not sure its good PR to call anyone who wont play with him a LOSER. Its not true in any case.

I'm totally fine with it. And I certainly would question the stones of anyone who didn't want to come to LA because of Kobe. Because their current situation is better? Because they could make more money? I have no problem with that. But because they don't want to deal with that big meanie Kobe Bryant, who along with Duncan is the winningest star player of his generation? I'm fine with that dude not coming.

The Lakers biggest problem is that players CAN make more money elsewhere, and they ARE in a better position to win elsewhere.

But, for example, is Dwight Howard a loser because he didnt like playing with Kobe and wanted out? He gave up a lot of money to do so in exchange for being out of the drama and being on a contending team. I just dont see how anyone is a loser for wanting to be happy to be honest with you. Did that mean that Howard didnt have the balls to stay in LA or that he just wanted a title and to have a better situation for himself.
In somewhat related news, in terms of the Lakers becoming appealing again, Julius Randle is a freaking monster. Balled out last night. His ability to handle the ball is unreal. The only other guy his size in the NBA that can handle the rock like him is LeBron. He doesn't know how to play basketball yet, but he's going to be tremendous in the near future.




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