MMA vs Boxing question

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mayweather made more money in 1 fight last year, than the top 10 MMA fighters did all year. MMA sucks face it. Every time there is a big boxing match (IE: Pacman/PBF vs whoever) everybody in their mom orders the fight. Speaking of moms, my mom (56 yrs old) can name about 3-5 boxers, and could give a s**t about MMA. Which is why it fails. MMA Can't attract regular folks. What are we on UFC 100545754654???? and still no one gives a s**t. Look at the line up of ufc fighters recently

Brock Lesnaer WWF superstar really? I would love to see Lesnar step into a boxing ring vs a Vitali K. or his brother. He would KO in 30 seconds tops. Not be a champion.
Kimbo Slice youtube sensation wow?
James Toney 42 yr old washed up boxer really Dana? Really?

10 years ago nobody knew who Pac-Man and PBF were, now these cats are everywhere.
Which is why Entertainment wise: Boxing > MMA, always has been always will be.
Dana White is joke as a CEO compared to OLDH and Bob Arum.

And to answer the question in a genuine street fight, where the fighters fight standing and don't b***h out and roll around on the ground boxer wins 10/10 times.
I always hated watching a street fight that ended up on the ground, STR8 gay.

One of the most unintelligent posts I have ever read. Congratulations.

Is it really? all facts.
Brock Lesnar went from WWF to UFC champ seamlessly. FACT.
James Toney is washed up. FACT.
PBF makes more money in 1 fight than the top 10 MMA guys. FACT.
MMA struggles to reach mainstream audience. FACT.

What is so unintelligent about the post?

What's unintelligent is that your post had nothing to do about the point of this thread. But let me respond to your "facts".

Brock Lesnar was a division I wrestling champion that also happened to be a WWF champ. So what?! Just cus he was employed with the WWF, he's that much less of a fighter? Who cares. He came in and beat some of the top heavyweights in the world due to his strength, quickness, and agility for a man that fights at 285 pounds. That's a lot more than what the Klitschko bros have been doing.

James Toney followed Dana White around for two years continuing to talk s**t about MMA and how "gay" it was. He talked about how his boxing would negate anything else his MMA opponent would do. He was given the opportunity to give boxing the upper hand when he got a fight against a 46 year old Randy Couture. Couture beat him convincingly. Yes, Toney is washed up, but he is still a boxing champ. What does that say about boxing?

Boxers make more money, yes. They've been mainstream for centuries. MMA is moving up. The fighters don't necessarily care if they make a quadrillion dollars a fight. All they care about is fighting. Guys who will fight the best out there. They don't have promoters or the choices, the president of the company makes the fights exciting for the fans. They know what the fans want to see.

You saying that MMA hasn't reached the mainstream just proves how your posts aren't even close to credible. The Versus Network, Spike TV, CBS, ESPN all televise MMA. The UFC alone has held events all around the world. How is that not mainstream?!

Check your bias at the door.

Lou Dibella's best argument: "You don't love boxing!"

Joe Rogan. WOW. Dude is a moron. He has as much cred in sports as a Kardashian Sister. Child Please. Joe Rogan

I'm not a huge fan of Joe Rogan by any means, but he does have a pretty fair argument.

step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mayweather made more money in 1 fight last year, than the top 10 MMA fighters did all year. MMA sucks face it. Every time there is a big boxing match (IE: Pacman/PBF vs whoever) everybody in their mom orders the fight. Speaking of moms, my mom (56 yrs old) can name about 3-5 boxers, and could give a s**t about MMA. Which is why it fails. MMA Can't attract regular folks. What are we on UFC 100545754654???? and still no one gives a s**t. Look at the line up of ufc fighters recently

Brock Lesnaer WWF superstar really? I would love to see Lesnar step into a boxing ring vs a Vitali K. or his brother. He would KO in 30 seconds tops. Not be a champion.
Kimbo Slice youtube sensation wow?
James Toney 42 yr old washed up boxer really Dana? Really?

10 years ago nobody knew who Pac-Man and PBF were, now these cats are everywhere.
Which is why Entertainment wise: Boxing > MMA, always has been always will be.
Dana White is joke as a CEO compared to OLDH and Bob Arum.

And to answer the question in a genuine street fight, where the fighters fight standing and don't b***h out and roll around on the ground boxer wins 10/10 times.
I always hated watching a street fight that ended up on the ground, STR8 gay.

One of the most unintelligent posts I have ever read. Congratulations.

Is it really? all facts.
Brock Lesnar went from WWF to UFC champ seamlessly. FACT.
James Toney is washed up. FACT.
PBF makes more money in 1 fight than the top 10 MMA guys. FACT.
MMA struggles to reach mainstream audience. FACT.

What is so unintelligent about the post?

What's unintelligent is that your post had nothing to do about the point of this thread. But let me respond to your "facts".

Brock Lesnar was a division I wrestling champion that also happened to be a WWF champ. So what?! Just cus he was employed with the WWF, he's that much less of a fighter? Who cares. He came in and beat some of the top heavyweights in the world due to his strength, quickness, and agility for a man that fights at 285 pounds. That's a lot more than what the Klitschko bros have been doing.

James Toney followed Dana White around for two years continuing to talk s**t about MMA and how "gay" it was. He talked about how his boxing would negate anything else his MMA opponent would do. He was given the opportunity to give boxing the upper hand when he got a fight against a 46 year old Randy Couture. Couture beat him convincingly. Yes, Toney is washed up, but he is still a boxing champ. What does that say about boxing?

Boxers make more money, yes. They've been mainstream for centuries. MMA is moving up. The fighters don't necessarily care if they make a quadrillion dollars a fight. All they care about is fighting. Guys who will fight the best out there. They don't have promoters or the choices, the president of the company makes the fights exciting for the fans. They know what the fans want to see.

You saying that MMA hasn't reached the mainstream just proves how your posts aren't even close to credible. The Versus Network, Spike TV, CBS, ESPN all televise MMA. The UFC alone has held events all around the world. How is that not mainstream?!

Check your bias at the door.

Lou Dibella's best argument: "You don't love boxing!"

Joe Rogan. WOW. Dude is a moron. He has as much cred in sports as a Kardashian Sister. Child Please. Joe Rogan

psst! your ignorance is showing

Pssst! Your ignorance has already been seen

Joe Rogan has a brown belt in BJJ, a black belt in taekwando and is a regular at MMA training gyms. Dude knows the sport.

I would suggest you take your trolling elsewhere, because you are getting thoroughly pwned in this thread.

This is true. Ever since his first post when he used his mother knowing boxer's names as an example as to why boxing is better than MMA.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mayweather made more money in 1 fight last year, than the top 10 MMA fighters did all year. MMA sucks face it. Every time there is a big boxing match (IE: Pacman/PBF vs whoever) everybody in their mom orders the fight. Speaking of moms, my mom (56 yrs old) can name about 3-5 boxers, and could give a s**t about MMA. Which is why it fails. MMA Can't attract regular folks. What are we on UFC 100545754654???? and still no one gives a s**t. Look at the line up of ufc fighters recently

Brock Lesnaer WWF superstar really? I would love to see Lesnar step into a boxing ring vs a Vitali K. or his brother. He would KO in 30 seconds tops. Not be a champion.
Kimbo Slice youtube sensation wow?
James Toney 42 yr old washed up boxer really Dana? Really?

10 years ago nobody knew who Pac-Man and PBF were, now these cats are everywhere.
Which is why Entertainment wise: Boxing > MMA, always has been always will be.
Dana White is joke as a CEO compared to OLDH and Bob Arum.

And to answer the question in a genuine street fight, where the fighters fight standing and don't b***h out and roll around on the ground boxer wins 10/10 times.
I always hated watching a street fight that ended up on the ground, STR8 gay.

One of the most unintelligent posts I have ever read. Congratulations.

I thought it was a good post.

Mayweather makes more in one fight than most of those MMA cats make in a career.

Until UFC steps up and pays people like boxing, we won't see elite boxers in MMA , because they'll be boxers. Were the $$$ is.



And as for this discussion about boxing vs MMA;



Fedor , 2003-2008 Chuck Liddell brought the money in because they knocked fools OUT....not dry hump and tap.

I like MMA too, but they need to pay fighters what they deserve.
Liddell,Wandy,Slvia etc. all look and talk like the have some type of brain damage.



Parkinsons?

He's f**kin Jose Canseco's ex now.



Kindda weird looking. Like Haden Pantysintheairre, with a touch of downs syndrome.

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

The Iceman's a kickboxer.

Here's my question;

If Dana White ever lets Blacks and Latinos (real cats, not sculptors , ex football players who fight like robots, or dbags that listen to Hoobastank ) come in and dominate MMA, will people still watch, or move on to something else?

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

The Iceman's a kickboxer.

Dude rarely threw a kick during that period, son.

All KO's and striking. NEXT

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

sprawl and brawl

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

The Iceman's a kickboxer.

Dude rarely threw a kick during that period, son.

All KO's and striking. NEXT

But the fear of a kick kept most opponents honest - see: Liddell vs Sobral UFC 40 11/02

Without Liddell's ability to kick, dudes would have shot in on him a lot more.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

The Iceman's a kickboxer.

Dude rarely threw a kick during that period, son.

All KO's and striking. NEXT

But the fear of a kick kept most opponents honest - see: Liddell vs Sobral UFC 40 11/02

Without Liddell's ability to kick, dudes would have shot in on him a lot more.

Junior Dos Santos is exemplifying the formula for success that Tstarks laid out.

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mayweather made more money in 1 fight last year, than the top 10 MMA fighters did all year. MMA sucks face it. Every time there is a big boxing match (IE: Pacman/PBF vs whoever) everybody in their mom orders the fight. Speaking of moms, my mom (56 yrs old) can name about 3-5 boxers, and could give a s**t about MMA. Which is why it fails. MMA Can't attract regular folks. What are we on UFC 100545754654???? and still no one gives a s**t. Look at the line up of ufc fighters recently

Brock Lesnaer WWF superstar really? I would love to see Lesnar step into a boxing ring vs a Vitali K. or his brother. He would KO in 30 seconds tops. Not be a champion.
Kimbo Slice youtube sensation wow?
James Toney 42 yr old washed up boxer really Dana? Really?

10 years ago nobody knew who Pac-Man and PBF were, now these cats are everywhere.
Which is why Entertainment wise: Boxing > MMA, always has been always will be.
Dana White is joke as a CEO compared to OLDH and Bob Arum.

And to answer the question in a genuine street fight, where the fighters fight standing and don't b***h out and roll around on the ground boxer wins 10/10 times.
I always hated watching a street fight that ended up on the ground, STR8 gay.

One of the most unintelligent posts I have ever read. Congratulations.

Is it really? all facts.
Brock Lesnar went from WWF to UFC champ seamlessly. FACT.
James Toney is washed up. FACT.
PBF makes more money in 1 fight than the top 10 MMA guys. FACT.
MMA struggles to reach mainstream audience. FACT.

What is so unintelligent about the post?

What's unintelligent is that your post had nothing to do about the point of this thread. But let me respond to your "facts".

Brock Lesnar was a division I wrestling champion that also happened to be a WWF champ. So what?! Just cus he was employed with the WWF, he's that much less of a fighter? Who cares. He came in and beat some of the top heavyweights in the world due to his strength, quickness, and agility for a man that fights at 285 pounds. That's a lot more than what the Klitschko bros have been doing.

James Toney followed Dana White around for two years continuing to talk s**t about MMA and how "gay" it was. He talked about how his boxing would negate anything else his MMA opponent would do. He was given the opportunity to give boxing the upper hand when he got a fight against a 46 year old Randy Couture. Couture beat him convincingly. Yes, Toney is washed up, but he is still a boxing champ. What does that say about boxing?

Boxers make more money, yes. They've been mainstream for centuries. MMA is moving up. The fighters don't necessarily care if they make a quadrillion dollars a fight. All they care about is fighting. Guys who will fight the best out there. They don't have promoters or the choices, the president of the company makes the fights exciting for the fans. They know what the fans want to see.

You saying that MMA hasn't reached the mainstream just proves how your posts aren't even close to credible. The Versus Network, Spike TV, CBS, ESPN all televise MMA. The UFC alone has held events all around the world. How is that not mainstream?!

Check your bias at the door.

Lou Dibella's best argument: "You don't love boxing!"

Joe Rogan. WOW. Dude is a moron. He has as much cred in sports as a Kardashian Sister. Child Please. Joe Rogan

psst! your ignorance is showing

Pssst! Your ignorance has already been seen

Joe Rogan has a brown belt in BJJ, a black belt in taekwando and is a regular at MMA training gyms. Dude knows the sport.

I would suggest you take your trolling elsewhere, because you are getting thoroughly pwned in this thread.

Sixth really...Only dudes getting owned is you and your MMA fan boys. Like I said I have your ignorance before.
Joe Rogan isn't biased he gets a paycheck from UFC, all he knows is
UFC. I love his argument...He knows UFC but knows nothing about boxing. He said I watched boxing growing up. AWESOME.

Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
step one) be a badass boxer

step two) learn how to defend the takedown


Become champ easily.

Kickboxer beats the boxer.

(see Chuck Liddels' dominance circa 2002 on)

Come on now Starks!

Tito Ortiz DOMINATED right before the Liddell era and his forte was wrestling and ground & pound. Matt Hughes dominated the welterweight division with his wrestling. Randy Couture dominated with wrestling. Anderson Silva dominated with his muay thai.

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by TheSixthRing:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by SF69ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Mayweather made more money in 1 fight last year, than the top 10 MMA fighters did all year. MMA sucks face it. Every time there is a big boxing match (IE: Pacman/PBF vs whoever) everybody in their mom orders the fight. Speaking of moms, my mom (56 yrs old) can name about 3-5 boxers, and could give a s**t about MMA. Which is why it fails. MMA Can't attract regular folks. What are we on UFC 100545754654???? and still no one gives a s**t. Look at the line up of ufc fighters recently

Brock Lesnaer WWF superstar really? I would love to see Lesnar step into a boxing ring vs a Vitali K. or his brother. He would KO in 30 seconds tops. Not be a champion.
Kimbo Slice youtube sensation wow?
James Toney 42 yr old washed up boxer really Dana? Really?

10 years ago nobody knew who Pac-Man and PBF were, now these cats are everywhere.
Which is why Entertainment wise: Boxing > MMA, always has been always will be.
Dana White is joke as a CEO compared to OLDH and Bob Arum.

And to answer the question in a genuine street fight, where the fighters fight standing and don't b***h out and roll around on the ground boxer wins 10/10 times.
I always hated watching a street fight that ended up on the ground, STR8 gay.

One of the most unintelligent posts I have ever read. Congratulations.

Is it really? all facts.
Brock Lesnar went from WWF to UFC champ seamlessly. FACT.
James Toney is washed up. FACT.
PBF makes more money in 1 fight than the top 10 MMA guys. FACT.
MMA struggles to reach mainstream audience. FACT.

What is so unintelligent about the post?

What's unintelligent is that your post had nothing to do about the point of this thread. But let me respond to your "facts".

Brock Lesnar was a division I wrestling champion that also happened to be a WWF champ. So what?! Just cus he was employed with the WWF, he's that much less of a fighter? Who cares. He came in and beat some of the top heavyweights in the world due to his strength, quickness, and agility for a man that fights at 285 pounds. That's a lot more than what the Klitschko bros have been doing.

James Toney followed Dana White around for two years continuing to talk s**t about MMA and how "gay" it was. He talked about how his boxing would negate anything else his MMA opponent would do. He was given the opportunity to give boxing the upper hand when he got a fight against a 46 year old Randy Couture. Couture beat him convincingly. Yes, Toney is washed up, but he is still a boxing champ. What does that say about boxing?

Boxers make more money, yes. They've been mainstream for centuries. MMA is moving up. The fighters don't necessarily care if they make a quadrillion dollars a fight. All they care about is fighting. Guys who will fight the best out there. They don't have promoters or the choices, the president of the company makes the fights exciting for the fans. They know what the fans want to see.

You saying that MMA hasn't reached the mainstream just proves how your posts aren't even close to credible. The Versus Network, Spike TV, CBS, ESPN all televise MMA. The UFC alone has held events all around the world. How is that not mainstream?!

Check your bias at the door.

Lou Dibella's best argument: "You don't love boxing!"

Joe Rogan. WOW. Dude is a moron. He has as much cred in sports as a Kardashian Sister. Child Please. Joe Rogan

psst! your ignorance is showing

Pssst! Your ignorance has already been seen

Joe Rogan has a brown belt in BJJ, a black belt in taekwando and is a regular at MMA training gyms. Dude knows the sport.

I would suggest you take your trolling elsewhere, because you are getting thoroughly pwned in this thread.

Sixth really...Only dudes getting owned is you and your MMA fan boys. Like I said I have your ignorance before.
Joe Rogan isn't biased he gets a paycheck from UFC, all he knows is
UFC. I love his argument...He knows UFC but knows nothing about boxing. He said I watched boxing growing up. AWESOME.

Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed
Lou: UFC.....is ( by Joe Interrupts Again)
Joe: Boxing is getting swallowed

Another bulls**t argument. Joe Rogan follows all martial arts, hence his love for both sports. But the guy had been following MMA since before it got so big.

You obviously didn't pay attention to his argument. Lou Dibella didn't even know what to say. MMA has grown. Is it bigger than boxing? Of course not. Will it get bigger than boxing? I think it will.

Check the voting poll again. MMA over Boxing. The only one getting owned in this thread is you.

Like I said before...check your bias at the door. As a matter of fact, don't even come in this thread, cus your arguments are that of a 5 year old.