All Time NBA League Game Thread

Originally posted by crzy:
Notice how the Clippers and Grizzlies happen to have a ton of pre-ABA merger players in their starting lineups.

From an era where most guys couldn't shoot, most guys were unathletic, except a few freaks....

NinerJohn, Rick Barry was a great player, but Barry was a sub .300 three point shooter for his career. So even though he was a legend at the free throw line, he doesn't really have elite range on his jumper. And that's what's killing his shooting percentages in this sim. He's shooting a horrible 3PG%

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He shot 39.8% against slow white guys in the year that you chose him, Hollywood. He shot 5/13, which is 38.4%, against a slow white guy in that game.

Lets go by stats then, He also Avg 25 PPG vs slow white guys, but only dropped 14 vs a really slow center playing out of position?

In real life a team with the frontcourt of Shaq and Sabonis would get ran off the floor by quicker players, but not in whatifsports eyes.

Going by that logic, these games would have final scores of 210-207 and each team would take 180 shots per game. Because Shaq averages 30ppg, Wade averages 30ppg, Penny averages 22ppg, Sprewell averages 23ppg...that's 105ppg just right there. Pretty much everyone's PPG is going to be down significantly. There are only so many shots that can be taken.

And Shaq in his prime was so much faster than either Parish or Schayes that it isn't even a comparison. The teams that have beaten crzy have been the ones that have had big men that could pull Shaq & Sabonis away from the hoop (McHale, Laimbeer) (Chambers/Sampson), which is usually how "big" teams get beat. The Lakers have a terrible time with stretch 4's for that exact reason.

John...as I said over PM, I think that your PG position is the reason that a guy like Barry & Thompson are struggling. In terms of the teams that I thought would be good, you can chose to take my word for it or not. I do believe I posted that I thought that lifer had the best team in the thread. I wasn't trying to make predictions here, I was just saying that I thought that the sim is MUCH more accurate than I thought it would be.

Come on LA you didn't answer the question, why doesn't whatifsports take into consideration that sabonis is playing out of position?

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Sabonis grabbing 14 Rebs off the bench vs Dampier and Kaman??? WTF is that???

Dampier is a scrub. Kaman is a guy who puts up hollow stats in a watered down league.

Sabonis is 10X better than both those guys combined.

Don't matter what your personal opinions are. Kaman and Dampier had great stats in the years I'm using them period. No way should Sabonis out board this combo. Period.
Whatifsports is about stats not personal opinions. And it should'nt allow a 7 foot slow white guy to play PF effectively, it would never happen in real life.

Because Erick Dampier and Chris Kaman are quick lol


A Sabonis and Shaq frontcourt would work fine if both were in their prime.

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by crzy:
Notice how the Clippers and Grizzlies happen to have a ton of pre-ABA merger players in their starting lineups.

From an era where most guys couldn't shoot, most guys were unathletic, except a few freaks....

NinerJohn, Rick Barry was a great player, but Barry was a sub .300 three point shooter for his career. So even though he was a legend at the free throw line, he doesn't really have elite range on his jumper. And that's what's killing his shooting percentages in this sim. He's shooting a horrible 3PG%

I only have 2 pre-ABA merger players, and 1 doesn't really play.

Originally posted by crzy:
Notice how the Clippers and Grizzlies happen to have a ton of pre-ABA merger players in their starting lineups.

From an era where most guys couldn't shoot, most guys were unathletic, except a few freaks....

NinerJohn, Rick Barry was a great player, but Barry was a sub .300 three point shooter for his career. So even though he was a legend at the free throw line, he doesn't really have elite range on his jumper. And that's what's killing his shooting percentages in this sim. He's shooting a horrible 3PG%


Danny Granger is a better three point shooter than Rick Barry ever was. This is the truth.

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Sabonis grabbing 14 Rebs off the bench vs Dampier and Kaman??? WTF is that???

Dampier is a scrub. Kaman is a guy who puts up hollow stats in a watered down league.

Sabonis is 10X better than both those guys combined.

Don't matter what your personal opinions are. Kaman and Dampier had great stats in the years I'm using them period. No way should Sabonis out board this combo. Period.
Whatifsports is about stats not personal opinions. And it should'nt allow a 7 foot slow white guy to play PF effectively, it would never happen in real life.

Because Erick Dampier and Chris Kaman are quick lol


A Sabonis and Shaq frontcourt would work fine if both were in their prime.

They are quicker than Sabonis.

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:

Originally posted by crzy:
Notice how the Clippers and Grizzlies happen to have a ton of pre-ABA merger players in their starting lineups.

From an era where most guys couldn't shoot, most guys were unathletic, except a few freaks....

NinerJohn, Rick Barry was a great player, but Barry was a sub .300 three point shooter for his career. So even though he was a legend at the free throw line, he doesn't really have elite range on his jumper. And that's what's killing his shooting percentages in this sim. He's shooting a horrible 3PG%


Danny Granger is a better three point shooter than Rick Barry ever was. This is the truth.

Granger had 1 good nba season.

Originally posted by SacRock14:
The Kings acquire Isiah Thomas, Armon Gilliam and Matt Harpring. In exchange, the Jazz pick up Sam Cassell, Charles Oakley and Theo Ratliff.

New Kings lineup will be posted shortly in the other thread.

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Come on LA you didn't answer the question, why doesn't whatifsports take into consideration that sabonis is playing out of position?

It does. He's 92% as effective at PF.

Originally posted by Dino:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Come on LA you didn't answer the question, why doesn't whatifsports take into consideration that sabonis is playing out of position?

It does. He's 92% as effective at PF.

how do i find out how effecting my players are at each position?

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Dino:

Originally posted by pantstickle:

Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Come on LA you didn't answer the question, why doesn't whatifsports take into consideration that sabonis is playing out of position?

It does. He's 92% as effective at PF.

how do i find out how effective my players are at each position?

http://www.whatifsports.com/nba-l/historical_teams.asp

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by SacRock14:
The Kings acquire Isiah Thomas, Armon Gilliam and Matt Harpring. In exchange, the Jazz pick up Sam Cassell, Charles Oakley and Theo Ratliff.

New Kings lineup will be posted shortly in the other thread.

I can't believe Isiah Thomas was traded for so little. Wow. The Kings raped in that trade

Originally posted by jrg:
How did I miss this?