2009 SF Giants thread

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Hopper:
Amazing how dominant Cain looks without fastball Molina behind the plate. He's taking the Cubs to school today.

Ya.. I'm sure the reason for Cain's problems has all been Benji Molina. Get a clue.
Molina doesnt throw the pitches and isnt responsible for making the final call on what pitch is thrown. That is on the pitcher.

Perhap the reason he could dominate today might have something to do with:
No Derrick Lee, No Alfonso Soriano. No Geovany Soto, and No Milton Bradley. The lineup the Cubs put out there wasnt exactly the 1929 New York Yankees.

Are you sure about that because a pitcher doesn't spend the whole game shaking off his catcher for another sign. At most with Molina, Cain will shake him off two or three times. So other wise Molina does get final call on most of the pitches thrown.

With Whiteside he simply mixes up the pitches better than Molina, why you simply Ignore this I can't understand.

a catcher never makes the final call on a pitch.

Of course the catcher never has the final call, but Cain's showing faith in Molina to call the majority of the pitches.

LOL You know there is no interest left in the Giants season when the only thing being commented on is a ridiculous post on Benji's pitch calling and how Eli is so much better.

One more week. Its been pretty good overall. However, I must admit that the future has many question marks with the team. I am bothered by the fact that Villalona, Barnes, and Alderson are gone ( assumption with Villalona) and that the farm system isnt as bright now as it was 3 months ago. There is lots of work for the GM to do.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL You know there is no interest left in the Giants season when the only thing being commented on is a ridiculous post on Benji's pitch calling and how Eli is so much better. One more week. Its been pretty good overall. However, I must admit that the future has many question marks with the team. I am bothered by the fact that Villalona, Barnes, and Alderson are gone ( assumption with Villalona) and that the farm system isnt as bright now as it was 3 months ago. There is lots of work for the GM to do.

do you think we are going to dump sabean? i kind of want bochy to stay but im pretty sure we need a new gm, and neukom did say on sf chron live or whatever a few weeks back that the end to the season would matter.

what do you guys think about uribe? i want to see him come back. hes been one of the only guys playing well the last month or so.

i kind of want to see randy winn gone and benji gone. we need to play buster posey. i wouldnt mind seeing rowand dealt for bradley, especially if itd give us more money to play with.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL You know there is no interest left in the Giants season when the only thing being commented on is a ridiculous post on Benji's pitch calling and how Eli is so much better. One more week. Its been pretty good overall. However, I must admit that the future has many question marks with the team. I am bothered by the fact that Villalona, Barnes, and Alderson are gone ( assumption with Villalona) and that the farm system isnt as bright now as it was 3 months ago. There is lots of work for the GM to do.

do you think we are going to dump sabean? i kind of want bochy to stay but im pretty sure we need a new gm, and neukom did say on sf chron live or whatever a few weeks back that the end to the season would matter.

what do you guys think about uribe? i want to see him come back. hes been one of the only guys playing well the last month or so.

i kind of want to see randy winn gone and benji gone. we need to play buster posey. i wouldnt mind seeing rowand dealt for bradley, especially if itd give us more money to play with.

You want Bochy back??? Give me 1 good reason why he should be back? And i dont want to hear oh he changed the team from a loser to one that contends

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LOL You know there is no interest left in the Giants season when the only thing being commented on is a ridiculous post on Benji's pitch calling and how Eli is so much better. One more week. Its been pretty good overall. However, I must admit that the future has many question marks with the team. I am bothered by the fact that Villalona, Barnes, and Alderson are gone ( assumption with Villalona) and that the farm system isnt as bright now as it was 3 months ago. There is lots of work for the GM to do.

do you think we are going to dump sabean? i kind of want bochy to stay but im pretty sure we need a new gm, and neukom did say on sf chron live or whatever a few weeks back that the end to the season would matter.

what do you guys think about uribe? i want to see him come back. hes been one of the only guys playing well the last month or so.

i kind of want to see randy winn gone and benji gone. we need to play buster posey. i wouldnt mind seeing rowand dealt for bradley, especially if itd give us more money to play with.

I have changed my opinion on this. First of all I do not blame Bochy for the Giants issues for the most part. However, first and foremost the Giants need a new General Manager. If that person wants to keep Bochy.. fine. However, I kind of think that a new GM would bring in his own guy and I am cool with that.

The Giants should resign Uribe although it certainly depends on the contract demands. I dont see a lot of teams putting up big $$ for Juan Uribe thats for sure. He is a good fit on the Giants but not if its for 5+ million.

I think you asked earlier about the money that the Giants will potentially save. I posed this before but here you go:

RJ 8 million
Winn 7.75
Benji 6
Roberts 6
Lowry 4.5
Howry 2.75
Uribe 1

Total 36 million

THey also would save an additional $8 million if they do not exercise the option for Freddy Sanchez. I am positive that this is not going to happen and the ball will be in Sanchez court when the GMen offer his a 3 year $15-17 million dollar deal.

As to trading Rowand for Bradley.. yes I would do that to save $15 million dollars in contracts. You could then add that amount to the total above. I would not make the deal if there was any money that had to change hands though. I think the Cubs are going to be desparate to move Bradley.

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Originally posted by Conejo:
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f**king sad

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Conejo:
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f**king sad

hope he didnt do it

Medical staff KNEW F Sanchez had torn cartilage before trade.

Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Medical staff KNEW F Sanchez had torn cartilage before trade.

desperate move by hopefully our former G.M.

Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Medical staff KNEW F Sanchez had torn cartilage before trade.

That is no shock. Only our incredibly stupid GM would take on damaged goods and give up our 2nd rated pitching prospect. At least I feel good about the fact that I consistently ripped the trade.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Medical staff KNEW F Sanchez had torn cartilage before trade.

That is no shock. Only our incredibly stupid GM would take on damaged goods and give up our 2nd rated pitching prospect. At least I feel good about the fact that I consistently ripped the trade.

do you think this factors into whether sabean loses his job or not? i wouldnt mind if we kept sanchez around, maybe hell play better if he gets healthy? than again maybe if we dropped him, traded rowand for bradley, etc, wed be able to get holiday? its probably a pipe dream but itd be worth it.

Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by crzy:

Originally posted by Conejo:
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f**king sad

hope he didnt do it

Me too. The victim's brother's story doesn't sound all too believable.

Maybe NinerJohn's prediction may be coming true...

Quote:
Brewers' Prince Fielder could go on market this off-season

By Mark Miller

“PrinceMilwaukee Brewers owner Mark Attanasio is apparently wondering what other teams would offer in order to get one of his stars, Prince Fielder(notes). Attanasio will apparently listen to offers for Fielder this off-season, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

The 25-year-old is supposed to get $10.5 million next year in the second and final year of his current contract. That's considered a major bargain. After all, the 270-pouund first baseman has 137 RBIs, 43 homers, 99 runs, 169 hits, and a .297 average so far this season. Not too shabby.

The team will likely be looking for pitching in return since its team ERA (4.75) is fourth worst in the majors.

Originally posted by SF69ers:
Maybe NinerJohn's prediction may be coming true...

Quote:
Brewers' Prince Fielder could go on market this off-season

By Mark Miller

“PrinceMilwaukee Brewers owner Mark Attanasio is apparently wondering what other teams would offer in order to get one of his stars, Prince Fielder(notes). Attanasio will apparently listen to offers for Fielder this off-season, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

The 25-year-old is supposed to get $10.5 million next year in the second and final year of his current contract. That's considered a major bargain. After all, the 270-pouund first baseman has 137 RBIs, 43 homers, 99 runs, 169 hits, and a .297 average so far this season. Not too shabby.

The team will likely be looking for pitching in return since its team ERA (4.75) is fourth worst in the majors.

Fielder