Training Camp 2026

Likely just need extra bodies at DE.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

#49ers WR Mike Evans has a quad strain and is not practicing today.

RB Kaelon Black has an adductor injury and is also not practicing.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) August 3, 2026

WR De'Zhaun Stribling is still day to day with hamstring tightness and not practicing today.

DT CJ West and edge Romello Height are back in practice. https://t.co/CA7MOtftZp

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) August 3, 2026

Sigh

This is normal at any football training camp. None of this sounds season ending or serious.

I get hamstring tightness just getting out of bed.

We probably have more guys not practicing due to injury than the rest of the NFL combined. That doesn't sound normal.

Lmao.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Funny, neither one of these guys was with us last season so how do you know this?

Because that's how MacDonald attack's Shanahan offense, and neither of those players(within the framework of Shanahan's offense) changes the matchups with their skillsets.

The real X factor is how Shanahan will use Mike Evans. Does he evolve into dialing up more isolated stuff on the outside? Seattle had zero respect for the 49ers ability to win on the perimeter. Having a guy that can win on an island without scheme help is one way to counter this. If Seattle is going to squeeze the hell out of the middle of the field, then the natural counter is on the outside. However, that has never been Shanahan's style to attack with fades, backshoulder throws, gos, etc. I know he considers those low-percentage throws.

The 49ers badly need Stribling to make a big impact from day 1.

There has been some great scheme discussion on "The Athletic Football Show" podcast about how defenses have evolved to counter the spread of the Shanahan offense - with McDonald of course creating the latest masterclass version.

The new coverage scheme relies on giving up the short to mid underneath stuff and then smothering those routes to kill YAC. But the bigger evolution - if I understand it correctly - is that the defenses are just flat our refusing to react to the KS motions and route combinations in a way that creates such open space over the middle depth of the field. KS system was crazy adept at identifying various defenders coverage responsibilities / rules, then exploiting those rules to get defenders to react to various routes and leave open voids for both easier receptions and more YAC. I'm surmising here -- for example, if the defense ran a zone-match scheme, then the KS offense would run a route or routes through a defenders area to either get them to follow a bait route and create a void, or put that defender in a bind on which route to match. A smart QB in that system not only knew the offensive plays, but new the defensive tells for the scheme and thus the defense's rules in that scheme, and thus knew where the void would emerge and could get the ball out quick to that location - a la throwing with anticipation to a landmark the receiver would be arriving at.

Over the last couple of years there has been talk about how QBs have to move back to more pure progression concepts rather than knowing the place to attack ahead of time. (See Kurt Cousins video when he answered this) This is because defenses are refusing to let the offense exploit their rules, present a muddied picture pre and post snap, and force the QB back to a progression style of going from route 1 - 5 to find which man broke open.

This defensive evolution now puts a premium back on receivers that can beat "man" coverage or tight zone coverage.........
And hence the makeover the 9ers receiver room -- which actually started with Pearsall draft. He is good at separation and running away from coverage (think opposite of Juan Jennings) Deebo is a throw back to a receiver that is great against zone and finding him at speed going into a void in the defense was perfect for his YAC abilility.

Evans, Kirk, and Stribling are all the new mold receiver - they beat tight zone or man coverage in different ways. Even BA was more appropriate for the prior KS scheme - he could beat man coverage, but had minimal separation when doing so and wasn't great in contested catches.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Persistent, soft tissue injuries are on the training staff. At some point, people have to held accountable.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Persistent, soft tissue injuries are on the training staff. At some point, people have to held accountable.

Or Mike Evans is an older player and they are being cautious after he woke up with a quad more sore than usual.

Originally posted by HearstFan:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Funny, neither one of these guys was with us last season so how do you know this?

Because that's how MacDonald attack's Shanahan offense, and neither of those players(within the framework of Shanahan's offense) changes the matchups with their skillsets.

The real X factor is how Shanahan will use Mike Evans. Does he evolve into dialing up more isolated stuff on the outside? Seattle had zero respect for the 49ers ability to win on the perimeter. Having a guy that can win on an island without scheme help is one way to counter this. If Seattle is going to squeeze the hell out of the middle of the field, then the natural counter is on the outside. However, that has never been Shanahan's style to attack with fades, backshoulder throws, gos, etc. I know he considers those low-percentage throws.

The 49ers badly need Stribling to make a big impact from day 1.

There has been some great scheme discussion on "The Athletic Football Show" podcast about how defenses have evolved to counter the spread of the Shanahan offense - with McDonald of course creating the latest masterclass version.

The new coverage scheme relies on giving up the short to mid underneath stuff and then smothering those routes to kill YAC. But the bigger evolution - if I understand it correctly - is that the defenses are just flat our refusing to react to the KS motions and route combinations in a way that creates such open space over the middle depth of the field. KS system was crazy adept at identifying various defenders coverage responsibilities / rules, then exploiting those rules to get defenders to react to various routes and leave open voids for both easier receptions and more YAC. I'm surmising here -- for example, if the defense ran a zone-match scheme, then the KS offense would run a route or routes through a defenders area to either get them to follow a bait route and create a void, or put that defender in a bind on which route to match. A smart QB in that system not only knew the offensive plays, but new the defensive tells for the scheme and thus the defense's rules in that scheme, and thus knew where the void would emerge and could get the ball out quick to that location - a la throwing with anticipation to a landmark the receiver would be arriving at.

Over the last couple of years there has been talk about how QBs have to move back to more pure progression concepts rather than knowing the place to attack ahead of time. (See Kurt Cousins video when he answered this) This is because defenses are refusing to let the offense exploit their rules, present a muddied picture pre and post snap, and force the QB back to a progression style of going from route 1 - 5 to find which man broke open.

This defensive evolution now puts a premium back on receivers that can beat "man" coverage or tight zone coverage.........
And hence the makeover the 9ers receiver room -- which actually started with Pearsall draft. He is good at separation and running away from coverage (think opposite of Juan Jennings) Deebo is a throw back to a receiver that is great against zone and finding him at speed going into a void in the defense was perfect for his YAC abilility.

Evans, Kirk, and Stribling are all the new mold receiver - they beat tight zone or man coverage in different ways. Even BA was more appropriate for the prior KS scheme - he could beat man coverage, but had minimal separation when doing so and wasn't great in contested catches.

For all of the focus on scheme, how much of our problem against the Seahawks in the last two match ups was simply that the Seahawks had a lot more talent on defense than we had available to us on offense?

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Persistent, soft tissue injuries are on the training staff. At some point, people have to held accountable.

Or Mike Evans is an older player and they are being cautious after he woke up with a quad more sore than usual.

So, what's the excuse for the younger guys then (not including James, obviously)? Calf strains, quads, hamstrings, adductors...

We all want the 49ers to succeed. Sometimes, calling out obvious patterns that need addressing is necessary.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
For all of the focus on scheme, how much of our problem against the Seahawks in the last two match ups was simply that the Seahawks had a lot more talent on defense than we had available to us on offense?

It's certainly both. They're loaded with talent that's uniquely designed to stop Shanahan's multiplicity and his player's versatility while also having the horses to execute MacDonald's demonic scheme. I don't feel good about matching up against them at all.

I hope I'm proven wrong.

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Persistent, soft tissue injuries are on the training staff. At some point, people have to held accountable.

Or Mike Evans is an older player and they are being cautious after he woke up with a quad more sore than usual.

So, what's the excuse for the younger guys then (not including James, obviously)? Calf strains, quads, hamstrings, adductors...

We all want the 49ers to succeed. Sometimes, calling out obvious patterns that need addressing is necessary.

Why don't you call the Niners and tell their training staff what they're doing wrong.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by zeppfan1:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
I don't understand something, the last few practices there's been one or more guys getting held out because of some minor injury or small tweak of something. But for example, Evans and Black are out of practice today and while KB didn't finish the previous practice, Evans did. My point is how do they keep having player(s) out of a given practice with some ailment when they usually finished the last practice just before. When and where the hell did they get injured between practices is what I can't figure out.

It's because they are now extremely cautious with very minor injuries.

If guys have hangnails in August I expect them to miss time.

Persistent, soft tissue injuries are on the training staff. At some point, people have to held accountable.

Or Mike Evans is an older player and they are being cautious after he woke up with a quad more sore than usual.

So, what's the excuse for the younger guys then (not including James, obviously)? Calf strains, quads, hamstrings, adductors...

We all want the 49ers to succeed. Sometimes, calling out obvious patterns that need addressing is necessary.

Why don't you call the Niners and tell their training staff what they're doing wrong.

Wait, so we can't criticize or question anything now? What's the point of having a forum then? Gimme a break. If you can't have a constructive convo regarding the team without resorting to junior high girl retorts, maybe it's time for a break

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
We probably have more guys not practicing due to injury than the rest of the NFL combined. That doesn't sound normal.

Training staff might be super cautious this year and quick to shut guys down for the smallest bit of soreness.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Rookie LB Jaden Dugger saw a lot of work as an EDGE during practice today and even came up with a would be sack rushing off the edge during his first rep of the edge on team drills.

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) August 3, 2026

I can't wait to watch the first preseason game. I'm still not sure what the defense will look like. I wonder if Dugger will play like a base Sam LB in a 5-man front. That would explain why he's doing edge stuff given that the Sam LB will often rush the QB.

this footwork tells me he's preparing to do exactly what I described above;