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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
In a weird way Keion White and Clelin Ferrell make us better in the pass game. Mykel Williams who I generally came around to and started to like doesn't get any pass rush or push. Ferrell is a much more natural pass rusher and always has been. Keion can play both the pass and run. He sets the edge pretty strong and gets a little pass rush too. Did we honestly get better on pass rush? I think you can make the argument that we did. Mykel is a bull on setting the edge and so powerful. But I honestly think we get more push now and on passing downs and pressure. Weird how it worked. We might be better on that aspect now.

Mykel was a rookie with only a half dozen games under his belt. It is unfair to compare him to guys with multiple seasons. Based on what we did see this year, and the improvement he made, Williams will be a stud.

Mykel sets the edge really well. He's a bull with incredible power and length. I should say I like him. Just not sure of #11 overall. That's awful high for a set the edge guy. Not really down on him. Just he's not a natural pass rusher. Where Ferrell has been that all his life. Even Keion gets some push and pass rush pressure. So in a bizarre way I think we are honestly better at pass rush right now. Not in a way you would want. You don't want your players to get hurt. Williams can maybe improve. But I just don't think he's a natural pass rusher. Never was at Georgia either.

He wasn't drafted to be a pass rush specialist. He was drafted to be combo guy who could do multiple things well. He was beginning to do that when he was injured.

Williams is 21, kid is just sniffing what he could be. No one should be proclaiming anything good or bad right now.

I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.
Well we did get more sacks then the defense who pundits were saying was really good (after beating the raiders). So there's that silver lining.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.

Ferrell in just a few games is light years better as a pass rusher than Mykel was all year long. It's not a close call. It's night and day. If people don't want to see that THEY DON'T WANT TO.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher.

Agree. Horrible take. What is wrong with you?
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.

Ferrell in just a few games is light years better as a pass rusher than Mykel was all year long. It's not a close call. It's night and day. If people don't want to see that THEY DON'T WANT TO.

You're correct. Some people can see but choose not to see. You can check that next time you look in the mirror.
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher.

Agree. Horrible take. What is wrong with you?

What's so outrageous about SD49er's take?

Rookie QB, banged up O line and bad offense... still though, depleted Niner defense shut them out for 3 quarters IN CLEVELAND!!

Monkey Off The Back
AND Shnanny finally pimp slapped the Hand-Shake Boy (Schwartz)
Ferrell is playing like a top 5 pick
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.

Ferrell in just a few games is light years better as a pass rusher than Mykel was all year long. It's not a close call. It's night and day. If people don't want to see that THEY DON'T WANT TO.

He is much better than Beal who doesn't even have a sack yet.
  • bud49
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The 49ers played a top 3 defense today so stop with the "well they played the Browns" give them credit for a good win.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.

Ferrell in just a few games is light years better as a pass rusher than Mykel was all year long. It's not a close call. It's night and day. If people don't want to see that THEY DON'T WANT TO.

Come a long a way from you pumping up Williams as a stud. lol you are a real piece of work
  • 9moon
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I told you all it was going to be an EZ win !!

Ferrell always been a consistent pass rusher, not a dominant one, but a very consistent.. he should've never been cut from the start.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I didn't really claim him bad. Just not a natural pass rusher. Our pass rush may actually be a little better now with him out and more natural pass rushers in.

That is a really bad take

Just admit the pass rush was good today and move on.

Ferrell in just a few games is light years better as a pass rusher than Mykel was all year long. It's not a close call. It's night and day. If people don't want to see that THEY DON'T WANT TO.

Come a long a way from you pumping up Williams as a stud. lol you are a real piece of work

Mykel is kind of a stud at what he does. Set the edge like a big, powerful, bull. He's awesome at that with power and length. But not a natural pass rusher.
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