Who's lived up to there big contract?

Originally posted by Since07:
I'm critical of Brock right now, not because of the contract but his decision making. He cost us the season last year against the Rams throwing a pick into double coverage on 2nd down game on the line Though it won the game the Tonges toss up on 3rd down was terrible. If that was picked (which it should have been) the Purdy thread would be in total meltdown.
That being said comparing Mac's two games against the saints and cardinals to Purdys body of work going to multiple championships and a Super Bowl in 3 years is ridiculous.

Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

As for that Rams pick I'm pretty sure Jennings was interfered with on that play but yes I would rather Brock not play hero ball until it's critical down/situation.

Originally posted by gotem:
Im a lurker but I also think our fan base is insane. I toggle between here and Reddit. Started to think of why fans complain so much or why they are so entitled.

I think partly it's the older generation that witnessed the success of the Montana and young. Expectations are high from them and the leash is short. They've been accustomed for elite success.

The current generation is really heavy into box score stats. Stats metrics and all that PFF stuff are huge with this age group.... So if they don't hit top x in some list/metric, then they are overrated. Imagine a guy like Justin Smith on this current team.

Then there's the fans in between who suffered the dark years and will take whatever success SF achieves.

That being said, WR will be always be divas and will rarely earn their contract. Bosa kittle Warner CMC Trent in my opinion are fine. There is a reason why the draft is every year... Most draftees don't pan out.

Purdy though he has his limitations, compare his contract to his peers... It's life. Look at tua/tlaw... They signed a few years ago and purdys contract is close to them with outs sooner than expected. SF is not getting him at 40m so get over it. Good QBs don't grow on trees. Mac Jones is not better than purdy.... He only beats BP in arm strength. He processes a bit slower than BP and a bit slower is a matter of completing the pass or getting it knocked down/defended. We've been spoiled with BP's processing and accuracy for the most part. Both qbs have KS have been fortunate to have a coach that gives them the best situation to succeed.

Just my two cents...or 10. Can you guess what group of fans I belong to? 😂

Great post. You should post more often.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by gotem:
Im a lurker but I also think our fan base is insane. I toggle between here and Reddit. Started to think of why fans complain so much or why they are so entitled.

I think partly it's the older generation that witnessed the success of the Montana and young. Expectations are high from them and the leash is short. They've been accustomed for elite success.

The current generation is really heavy into box score stats. Stats metrics and all that PFF stuff are huge with this age group.... So if they don't hit top x in some list/metric, then they are overrated. Imagine a guy like Justin Smith on this current team.

Then there's the fans in between who suffered the dark years and will take whatever success SF achieves.

That being said, WR will be always be divas and will rarely earn their contract. Bosa kittle Warner CMC Trent in my opinion are fine. There is a reason why the draft is every year... Most draftees don't pan out.

Purdy though he has his limitations, compare his contract to his peers... It's life. Look at tua/tlaw... They signed a few years ago and purdys contract is close to them with outs sooner than expected. SF is not getting him at 40m so get over it. Good QBs don't grow on trees. Mac Jones is not better than purdy.... He only beats BP in arm strength. He processes a bit slower than BP and a bit slower is a matter of completing the pass or getting it knocked down/defended. We've been spoiled with BP's processing and accuracy for the most part. Both qbs have KS have been fortunate to have a coach that gives them the best situation to succeed.

Just my two cents...or 10. Can you guess what group of fans I belong to? 😂

Great post. You should post more often.

I question the comment about arm strength. Neither Purdy or Jones has upper tier arm strength but I give Purdy the edge over Jones. Both are adequate for most of the throws they need to make in Kyle's offense.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I question the comment about arm strength. Neither Purdy or Jones has upper tier arm strength but I give Purdy the edge over Jones. Both are adequate for most of the throws they need to make in Kyle's offense.

I do think Mac has the better arm but not by much and I think Purdy uses his arm better if it makes sense.

Ultimately there's an issue with NFL free agency where teams are pressured to pay great money for good players, cardinal sin of team building. Maybe it promotes parity, who knows.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I question the comment about arm strength. Neither Purdy or Jones has upper tier arm strength but I give Purdy the edge over Jones. Both are adequate for most of the throws they need to make in Kyle's offense.

I do think Mac has the better arm but not by much and I think Purdy uses his arm better if it makes sense.

With Purdy it is what is between his ears. Jones is an excellent #2 though. And a future starter for someone.

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

The fear is that BP's last year wasn't a fluke and his trajectory is that of Jimmy G. Especially as defense coordinators get better and better at exploiting his weaknesses.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

I'm pretty sure fans of other teams critique their upper-echelon QBs just as much as we do with Purdy if not more. And if, let's say, Josh Allen, threw two head-scratching picks during a game but managed a game-winner in tight coverage that probably should have been intercepted if not deflected, why would you think they wouldn't cry and complain about him? Especially considering they haven't even been to a SB yet. Additionally - Purdy is creating a track record now with these bone-headed pics. FTR, a win's a win and we're so lucky Woolen's a chump and Jake balled out on that play.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

Dont be so dramatic. The critique is reasonable especially after the 2024 sesaon and signing a big co ntract. A quarter of a billion brings expectations.

Originally posted by irief:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

The fear is that BP's last year wasn't a fluke and his trajectory is that of Jimmy G. Especially as defense coordinators get better and better at exploiting his weaknesses.

No offense but that's the fear of an uneducated fan and nothing he's done under the new contract(you know your whole reason for making this thread) shows he is anything like Jimmy G.

Jimmy would've never won that game. Pressured on like 50% of his snaps. No Kittle most of the game. No Deebo, Aiyuk or any other YAC monster. Run game doing very little. That's a recipe for a Jimmy G L.

Last year Purdy with all the injuries and breakdowns across the team put up numbers similar to Jimmy's best years. You can look around the league and see QBs considered way better than Brock struggle in similar situations.

Difference from last year to this year in that win? The defense held Seattle.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

Dont be so dramatic. The critique is reasonable especially after the 2024 sesaon and signing a big co ntract. A quarter of a billion brings expectations.

Dramatic is claiming Brock's new deal looks bad cuz he's choking late in games when the only game on the book with that new contract is a game winning drive…

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

Dont be so dramatic. The critique is reasonable especially after the 2024 sesaon and signing a big co ntract. A quarter of a billion brings expectations.

Dramatic is claiming Brock's new deal looks bad cuz he's choking late in games when the only game on the book with that new contract is a game winning drive…

Giberish.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by genus49:
Nobody second guesses other QBs when they make game winning throws even into tight coverage. We had a kicker who missed 2 kicks already. I have no issue with that decision on 3rd down given how that game went down.

I don't think I've ever seen a fan base so upset that a QB led a 4th quarter comeback and threw a game winning TD. All because it wasn't pretty enough.

Dont be so dramatic. The critique is reasonable especially after the 2024 sesaon and signing a big co ntract. A quarter of a billion brings expectations.

Dramatic is claiming Brock's new deal looks bad cuz he's choking late in games when the only game on the book with that new contract is a game winning drive…

Agreed. There are valid things to point out, however, choking is not one of them.

Brock is the least choker we have had probably since young.

With Jimmy you knew the collapse was coming every game.

Brock i actually have faith to win the game if he gets the ball more often then not.

He's going to sling it and throw some untimely picks but I would much rather have that than getting sacked or trying to dink and dunk and getting wrecked on the last drive of the game or taking back breaking sacks.

That is what we had for 20 years and it repeatedly cost us.

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