What is your SF 2025 draft grade?

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Incomplete

I like the class but let's see how things develop over time before we assign a true grade.

yea i mean let's at least have a minicamp 1st

I see people penciling in draft picks to start at 5 spots which seems high. Some of them are because the presumptive starter is injured.

I remember 1981, and having a bunch of rookies starting in a unit can be fun and help them improve quickly together ... not sure that can work on the DL though.

Grading drafts right after the draft can only really be about the first 4 rounds because beyond that it's all wild projection on what might be possible.

That said reasonably getting 4 NFL starting quality defenders is a good draft.

Below is a list of the 11 players the 49ers drafted. Some I liked based on games I actually saw them play in, and others, were suggestions by scouts or analysts during the 2024 - 2025 season. I've also included the UDFA, as well as the invited ones for the upcoming Rookie Mini-camp. I'm of the mindset of a few posters in this thread, that a draft is hard to assess until we see said players on the field, and beyond.

Of the many websites offering prospect information, I use NFL Draft Buzz, because I prefer their graphical interface. The Sports-Reference website was used, when Draft Buzz didn't return results on a player. For those who don't follow College Football on the regular, or don't have the time to check each and every player, this list is for you:

2025 NFL Draft - SF 49ers:
Round 1
Williams, Mykel - DE/EDGE, Ranked #3
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Mykel-Williams-DE-Georgia

Round 2
Collins, Alfred - DT, Ranked #18
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Alfred-Collins-DL-Texas

Round 3
Martin, Nick - LB, Ranked #25
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Nickolas-Martin-LB-OklahomaState

Round 3
Stot, Upton - S, Ranked #31
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Upton-Stout-DB-NorthTexas

Round 4
West, CJ - DT, Ranked #43
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/CJ-West-DL-KentState

Round 4
Watkins, Jordan - WR, Ranked #40
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jordan-Watkins-WR-Louisville

Round 5
James, Jordan - RB, Ranked #9
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jordan-James-RB-Oregon

Round 5
Sigle, Marques - S, Ranked #60
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Marques-Sigle-CB-NorthDakotaState

Round 7
Rourke, Kurtis - QB, Ranked #11
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Kurtis-Rourke-QB-Ohio

Round 7
Colby, Connor - OG, Ranked #34
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Connor-Colby-OL-Iowa

Round 7
Bergen, Junior - WR, Ranking Unknown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Bergen

UDFA:
Blanton, Stone - LB, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/stone-blanton-1.html

Kiner, Corey - RB, Ranking #28
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Corey-Kiner-RB-LSU

Moss, Drew - OL, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-moss-1.html

Neyor, Isaiah - WR, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/isaiah-neyor-1.html

Robinson, Jakob - CB/DB, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jakob-robinson-1.html

Valdez, Sebastian - DL, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sebastian-valdez-1.html

Invited To Tryout During Rookie Minicamp:
French, Ty - DE/LB, Ranked #42
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Ty-French-DE-Gardner-Webb

Hanshaw, Bentley - Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/bentley-hanshaw-1.html

Howell, Jack - DB/S, Ranked #75
https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jack-Howell-DB-ColoradoState

Sinclair, Tristan - LB, Ranking Unknown
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/tristan-sinclair-1.html

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

When you say "a player a lot of guys here liked." A lot of guys is referring to us fans which let's be honest we know almost nothing about scouting talent if we did we'd be doing that for a living. Whether their right or wrong, NFL scouting departments know much more than us. It goes deeper than what we see on film. That said, a true grade won't be known for a couple years.

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

I completely agree with this, and it's articulated better than I did a few pages ago. They need to do a better job scouting the other teams and maximising the value of their picks.

I love Alfred Collins, but I doubt anyone else had him at pick #43, work out where your threats are and try to trade back. For every time it burns you, well you've accumulated more picks to take more shots.

I give this draft an A. The team addressed 2 of its 3 glaring needs: (1) the inability to stop the run and (2) horrendous special teams - both of which directly caused a number of losses last year. I also give the draft an A because the team stuck and picked at all their picks. There was no Shanny trade ups for his rb or wr draft crushes. Lynch clearly controlled this draft which kept the team away from its normal bad decisions. I would give it an A+ but they only took one guard as opposed to additional oline, though I think the pick is exactly what the team looks for (short distance speed/quickness; played in a zone blocking system). Please note that there is no way for us to know whether these players will be any good or not. I can only judge how the team went out attacking the draft. They had a plan and executed it. I also know that some people think we over drafted the third round picks, but Salah's face told me everything I need to know about these picks. They drafted guys that they believe fit their scheme. The team has a plan.

Originally posted by Silky:
I'm nervous about the advice Bosa will give Mykel. "We typically end up playing alot of mobile QBs, so come crashing down and fall for the read option almost every time. You want to stay disciplined, you practices staying disciplined, but F that the QB will never keep it."

Seriously? You do understand how we crash down on plays is a coaching thing, not something Bosa is doing just cuz he's hunting big plays right?

Bosa is 100% the perfect teammate for Mykel because they have similar size and what Mykel needs is technique work and help with his pass rush plan, something Bosa can do in a big way.

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

When you say "a player a lot of guys here liked." A lot of guys is referring to us fans which let's be honest we know almost nothing about scouting talent if we did we'd be doing that for a living. Whether their right or wrong, NFL scouting departments know much more than us. It goes deeper than what we see on film. That said, a true grade won't be known for a couple years.

You're right they may not have wanted that player, but it doesn't negate the fact that they did not maximize that draft spot.
They could've used that pic to trade up or trade back or flip it for an extra pic next year. I'm just trying to point out that the trade New England made was not hypothetical, It actually happened and there are opportunities out there to maximize your pics.

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

I feel like I should chime in since my original post led to the last few comments above.

That wasn't my point. My point was draft bias cuz of media coverage influences these grades and general fan reaction - but in the end doesn't mean a damn thing.

It comes down to results. If the player is a good one nobody will care in 5 years that he was drafted 100 spots ahead of consensus.

And yes it's easy to say well we could've traded down, gotten more picks and STILL drafted them but you don't know. If you like the player enough and you don't want to lose him or simply that you can't find a team looking to move up then you go with your board and take him.

We just have to hope that these guys play like Greenlaw(who even in the 5th round was considered a reach) vs Latu(who seemed like a reach and clearly was in a major way)

B+

I don't have any real head scratchers this draft and i can see why they like each player they drafted. The first 5 picks fill immediate needs and all of them should get some good playing time. Stout is going to have the toughest time getting playing time out of those first 5 picks.

My only issue is the lack of OL. I would have spent at least 1 more pick on the OL and that would have been Jake Majors or Seth McLaughlin in the 7th.

Also a little tidbit i just came across. Drew Moss had the 2nd highest pff grade amongst guards last year. He also spent 3 years playing RT before moving to G this past year.
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Originally posted by Oilcan:
You're right they may not have wanted that player, but it doesn't negate the fact that they did not maximize that draft spot.
They could've used that pic to trade up or trade back or flip it for an extra pic next year. I'm just trying to point out that the trade New England made was not hypothetical, It actually happened and there are opportunities out there to maximize your pics.

We had 11 picks this year. 11 next year. We dont need to trade back for pick 146. We had 138, 147, 160. Plenty of opportunities to get our guys in that range.

The difference in doing a mock draft as a fan is if LB#4 goes, no problem I'll draft LB#5 on my board. And thats not always how it works. You have a system, a philosophy, a style of play. You want a certain caliber of athlete, a certain mentality, a certain size. You identify guys that fit your team.

There's not alot of guys that have Alfreds height, length, and versatility on the line. There's not alot of linebackers running 4.5 with a 38 inch vert and over 10 foot broad and that plays with their hair on fire. Martin was their guy. LB was a massive position of need. When you guy is sitting right there, you dont need to go back 10 spots when you already have 7 day 3 picks and risk it just so your 'internet value' looks ok. If Salah wants Martin and you got Bassa who doesnt play the run well just so you can get a 5th rounder that will probably play 0 snaps, as a GM you failed.

Originally posted by scooterhd:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You're right they may not have wanted that player, but it doesn't negate the fact that they did not maximize that draft spot.
They could've used that pic to trade up or trade back or flip it for an extra pic next year. I'm just trying to point out that the trade New England made was not hypothetical, It actually happened and there are opportunities out there to maximize your pics.

We had 11 picks this year. 11 next year. We dont need to trade back for pick 146. We had 138, 147, 160. Plenty of opportunities to get our guys in that range.

The difference in doing a mock draft as a fan is if LB#4 goes, no problem I'll draft LB#5 on my board. And thats not always how it works. You have a system, a philosophy, a style of play. You want a certain caliber of athlete, a certain mentality, a certain size. You identify guys that fit your team.

There's not alot of guys that have Alfreds height, length, and versatility on the line. There's not alot of linebackers running 4.5 with a 38 inch vert and over 10 foot broad and that plays with their hair on fire. Martin was their guy. LB was a massive position of need. When you guy is sitting right there, you dont need to go back 10 spots when you already have 7 day 3 picks and risk it just so your 'internet value' looks ok. If Salah wants Martin and you got Bassa who doesnt play the run well just so you can get a 5th rounder that will probably play 0 snaps, as a GM you failed.

This is the way.

now the draft is over here are some offseason dates

NFL schedule: May 14

49ers OTA Offseason Workouts: May 27-28, May 30, June 2-3, June 5

Mandatory Minicamp: June 10-11

I personally wanted more attention paid to the offensive line but love the defensive pics regardless