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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I posted this in Collins thread, but I'll say this in here as well.

There are many players who excel in one on ones that dont necessarily translate to the real game. Usually a lot of shorter/stouter guys, on both side of the line.
I get the excitement and am excited as well, just kind of a reminder to curb it a little bit as to not be disappointed later. Jason Poe also did well in one on ones IIRC as an olineman, and hes out of the league right now completely.

Poe was an UDFA
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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I posted this in Collins thread, but I'll say this in here as well.

There are many players who excel in one on ones that dont necessarily translate to the real game. Usually a lot of shorter/stouter guys, on both side of the line.
I get the excitement and am excited as well, just kind of a reminder to curb it a little bit as to not be disappointed later. Jason Poe also did well in one on ones IIRC as an olineman, and hes out of the league right now completely.

Fair point, every year you hear of a player/players killing it in camp or even in preseason but actual games are a whole other beast. I'm liking what I'm seeing from west though, looks like he has some good hand work not just big and stout
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I posted this in Collins thread, but I'll say this in here as well.

There are many players who excel in one on ones that dont necessarily translate to the real game. Usually a lot of shorter/stouter guys, on both side of the line.
I get the excitement and am excited as well, just kind of a reminder to curb it a little bit as to not be disappointed later. Jason Poe also did well in one on ones IIRC as an olineman, and hes out of the league right now completely.

Fair point, every year you hear of a player/players killing it in camp or even in preseason but actual games are a whole other beast. I'm liking what I'm seeing from west though, looks like he has some good hand work not just big and stout

Camp performance is just one step up from ther combine. I always try to keep in mond that they're going up against our players so performance is a 2 way street. Good on one side and bad on the other. Reminds me of those spring inter squad games that colleges have. The next day the local papers are raving about how good the offense looked while ignoring how bad the defense looked.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
I posted this in Collins thread, but I'll say this in here as well.

There are many players who excel in one on ones that dont necessarily translate to the real game. Usually a lot of shorter/stouter guys, on both side of the line.
I get the excitement and am excited as well, just kind of a reminder to curb it a little bit as to not be disappointed later. Jason Poe also did well in one on ones IIRC as an olineman, and hes out of the league right now completely.

Fair point, every year you hear of a player/players killing it in camp or even in preseason but actual games are a whole other beast. I'm liking what I'm seeing from west though, looks like he has some good hand work not just big and stout

Camp performance is just one step up from ther combine. I always try to keep in mond that they're going up against our players so performance is a 2 way street. Good on one side and bad on the other. Reminds me of those spring inter squad games that colleges have. The next day the local papers are raving about how good the offense looked while ignoring how bad the defense looked.

SOME of that can be which players they are going at too. When CJ has dominant reps against Puni it means more than when he handles Moss.

There is also something that says a rookie is going to go harder than a vet who has no or limited competition.

In reality the fans never really see enough to know how good a player is doing from camp other than when they are or are not cut.

We have WAY too much coverage of camp these days. Back in the day I'd go to camp when it was wide open and see a beat reporter maybe 1 day out of 5 :)
I've done a ton of college film work on CJ West. Kid is really, really exciting. I just dropped a breakdown of a bunch of it here:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I've done a ton of college film work on CJ West. Kid is really, really exciting. I just dropped a breakdown of a bunch of it here:

TY
Originally posted by jonnydel:
I've done a ton of college film work on CJ West. Kid is really, really exciting. I just dropped a breakdown of a bunch of it here:

west + collins + williams gonna do some big boy things this season
He's gonna be better than Collins
Originally posted by lamontb:
He's gonna be better than Collins

Basically impossible to tell right now. They are different players.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by lamontb:
He's gonna be better than Collins

Basically impossible to tell right now. They are different players.

Scoots gets it
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by lamontb:
He's gonna be better than Collins

Basically impossible to tell right now. They are different players.

I'm just basing that off what I seen from both players in college not what they are doing now. West just plays with a higher motor and has better arsenal of moves and hand movement. And just b/c they are different doesn't mean I can't like one more than the the other.
Collins is going to be the better run defender and West the better pass rusher. On who you think will be better will depend on what you prefer. Not that West will be a bad run defender.
Dude is already being compared to DJ Jones
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Dude is already being compared to DJ Jones

He's far better than that as an athlete. Better coming out too. He was the better College player. It's an insult to compare him to that. I think he will be better.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He's far better than that as an athlete. Better coming out too. He was the better College player. It's an insult to compare him to that. I think he will be better.

Beat me to it. CJ has a chance to be more than just a base down nose.
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