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Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Horrible drafting in rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4

Luckily they've been great when their scouts take over in rd 5 and also been good in rd 6 and 7

It appears that they have figured out to trust the scouts more in rds 1-4 and looks like they did well in the 2024 and 2025 draft, except for the whiff on Nick Martin
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Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?
It's fair to say that our team hits on 2 draft picks each year. A 'hit' can be a contributor who makes the team or anyone who lives up to their draft status. All teams have the same problem. Hit on 3-4 per year separates winners from losers.
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Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

that is flat out wrong

30% of 3rd years are starers for 4 or more years? and the first 2 rounds are higher? Thats already 100% and that would mean there are no starers in round 4 and below
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

that is flat out wrong

30% of 3rd years are starers for 4 or more years? and the first 2 rounds are higher? Thats already 100% and that would mean there are no starers in round 4 and below

Uh, what?
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

They've done okay for team that supposedly doesn't know what they're doing. If they had done better in the early rounds and screwed up the later riunds and free agency they may have ended up about the same. In the end it makes no difference where you find your players. Look how many teams alway draft early in the round and they still suck.
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Horrible drafting in rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4

Luckily they've been great when their scouts take over in rd 5 and also been good in rd 6 and 7

It appears that they have figured out to trust the scouts more in rds 1-4 and looks like they did well in the 2024 and 2025 draft, except for the whiff on Nick Martin
I'm going to reserve a whiff grade on Martin until I see more.
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Horrible drafting in rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4

Luckily they've been great when their scouts take over in rd 5 and also been good in rd 6 and 7

It appears that they have figured out to trust the scouts more in rds 1-4 and looks like they did well in the 2024 and 2025 draft, except for the whiff on Nick Martin
I'm going to reserve a whiff grade on Martin until I see more.

Agree 100%
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Horrible drafting in rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4

Luckily they've been great when their scouts take over in rd 5 and also been good in rd 6 and 7

It appears that they have figured out to trust the scouts more in rds 1-4 and looks like they did well in the 2024 and 2025 draft, except for the whiff on Nick Martin
I'm going to reserve a whiff grade on Martin until I see more.

Nobody does that anymore. If a draft pick doesn't start day one a lot of fans say bust. Sometimesit just takes some players longer to adjust to the NFL or maybe they get hurt early on and struggle to get on the field. They miss training camp and they fall down the chart.

I wonder how many fans that are so quick to judge sucked at their job when they first started.
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Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

that is flat out wrong

30% of 3rd years are starers for 4 or more years? and the first 2 rounds are higher? Thats already 100% and that would mean there are no starers in round 4 and below

Uh, what?

I can't even respond to the point because it made my brain break.
If he is a bust Lynch will cut him before the 53-man deadline. They tend to cut bait on bad picks fairly quickly.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

that is flat out wrong

30% of 3rd years are starers for 4 or more years? and the first 2 rounds are higher? Thats already 100% and that would mean there are no starers in round 4 and below

Uh, what?

I can't even respond to the point because it made my brain break.

i misread the post. i thought it said 30% of starters are third rounders with first and 2nd rounders have an even higher precentage

either way there is no way 29% of 3rd rounders become starters for 4+years that seems really high
[ Edited by ritz126 on Mar 16, 2026 at 9:39 AM ]

Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

I was thinking it was less then that but thats about right. So 7 out of every 10 players drafted in the 3rd round are trash. Thats a lot and thats why we should be trading those picks away for proven NFL players. The Osa trade looks great!!!
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Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Hangman_52:
He is a bust. He will be a bust during training camp and then he will be released just like the other 3rd round busts this front office has picked:
2025: Nick Martin
2025: Upton Stout
2023: Ji'Ayir Brown
2023: Jake Moody
2023: Cameron Latu
2022: Ty Davis-Price
2022: Danny Gray
2021: Trey Sermon
2021: Ambry Thomas
2019: Jalen Hurd

Most third rounders are busts but nobody wants to talk about that.

As i mentioned in another thread, it took Dee Winters 2 years to lock down a starter job. Why are we so quick to call folks a bust if they don't perform in year 1?

AI Overview

Approximately
28.8% of NFL third-round draft picks (2000–2019) become successful starters, defined as starting for four or more years. While success rates are lower than the first two rounds, third-round picks are critical for team success, often providing starters, especially at positions like Offensive Line (45.79% hit rate) and Tight End.

that is flat out wrong

30% of 3rd years are starers for 4 or more years? and the first 2 rounds are higher? Thats already 100% and that would mean there are no starers in round 4 and below

Uh, what?

I can't even respond to the point because it made my brain break.

i misread the post. i thought it said 30% of starters are third rounders with first and 2nd rounders have an even higher precentage

either way there is no way 29% of 3rd rounders become starters for 4+years that seems really high

No worries.

I mean I couldnt find any data to refute the 29%
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