49ers select Alfred Collins-DT-Texas with the 43rd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Heroism:
There are some things Collins should do this offseason to improve as a player starting with his body composition. Dude is carrying a lot of bad weight and losing that will help to improve his athleticism. His focus in the offseason should be to trim down, improve explosiveness, improve mobility for his pad level, and continue refining his pass-rush plan and technique.

Totally agree, plus I see him getting locked up one on one too much. Need to see more moves from him and explosion like you mentioned.

This largely depends on what we expect from him. I don't think we necessarily drafted him to be "explosive" but more of an anchor in the middle. You always want explosiveness but the extra weight can help him in anchoring, It ultimately comes down to if he can consistently get his pad level right and time the snap if we expect him to be anything more than a massive cog against the run. The potential is certainly there but I think that's what he is

You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Heroism:
There are some things Collins should do this offseason to improve as a player starting with his body composition. Dude is carrying a lot of bad weight and losing that will help to improve his athleticism. His focus in the offseason should be to trim down, improve explosiveness, improve mobility for his pad level, and continue refining his pass-rush plan and technique.

Totally agree, plus I see him getting locked up one on one too much. Need to see more moves from him and explosion like you mentioned.

This largely depends on what we expect from him. I don't think we necessarily drafted him to be "explosive" but more of an anchor in the middle. You always want explosiveness but the extra weight can help him in anchoring, It ultimately comes down to if he can consistently get his pad level right and time the snap if we expect him to be anything more than a massive cog against the run. The potential is certainly there but I think that's what he is

The entire game in the trenches revolves around short, violent bursts at the snap. There isn't an aspect of defensive line play that isn't helped by being more explosive. That 15-20 pounds of slop around Collins' gut isn't helping him anchor. If he wants to improve his anchoring--which is only one aspect of run defense--he needs to improve his technique and his mobility and flexibility(ie knee and hip flexion) to improve his pad level.

Alfred Collins has a near identical build to Chris Jones, who is a trim ~310 pounds at 3tech. I think Collins can be around the same and become a more explosive, mobile and flexible athlete. It should also help with his conditioning. The guy was FRIED by the second half of the year and running on fumes. There's only benefits to be gained here.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

I agree and that's why a lot of fans were underwhelmed by the pick because that's high for a run stuffing DT.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The entire game in the trenches revolves around short, violent bursts at the snap. There isn't an aspect of defensive line play that isn't helped by being more explosive. That 15-20 pounds of slop around Collins' gut isn't helping him anchor. If he wants to improve his anchoring--which is only one aspect of run defense--he needs to improve his technique and his mobility and flexibility(ie knee and hip flexion) to improve his pad level.

Alfred Collins has a near identical build to Chris Jones, who is a trim ~310 pounds at 3tech. I think Collins can be around the same and become a more explosive, mobile and flexible athlete. It should also help with his conditioning. The guy was FRIED by the second half of the year and running on fumes. There's only benefits to be gained here.

Idk if he can lose 15-20 pounds just from his frame without cutting muscle he doesn't look that much overweight and cutting down will minimally help his mobility dude is just big and clunky. Which is fine just needs to work on pad level and hand work and has shown some progress on that. Stamina is a concern. I don't see him as a "Chris Jones" type think John Henderson is a better comparison

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

I agree and that's why a lot of fans were underwhelmed by the pick because that's high for a run stuffing DT.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The entire game in the trenches revolves around short, violent bursts at the snap. There isn't an aspect of defensive line play that isn't helped by being more explosive. That 15-20 pounds of slop around Collins' gut isn't helping him anchor. If he wants to improve his anchoring--which is only one aspect of run defense--he needs to improve his technique and his mobility and flexibility(ie knee and hip flexion) to improve his pad level.

Alfred Collins has a near identical build to Chris Jones, who is a trim ~310 pounds at 3tech. I think Collins can be around the same and become a more explosive, mobile and flexible athlete. It should also help with his conditioning. The guy was FRIED by the second half of the year and running on fumes. There's only benefits to be gained here.

Idk if he can lose 15-20 pounds just from his frame without cutting muscle he doesn't look that much overweight and cutting down will minimally help his mobility dude is just big and clunky. Which is fine just needs to work on pad level and hand work and has shown some progress on that. Stamina is a concern. I don't see him as a "Chris Jones" type think John Henderson is a better comparison

I believe he weighed around 330+ when drafted... if you can find pics of him compared to start of regular season, you may notice he lost a quite a bit (5-10 lbs). Perhaps he's still working on it and could probably add more muscle to replace the fat, but still end up weighing a solid 325+

Originally posted by Oilcan:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Heroism:

There are some things Collins should do this offseason to improve as a player starting with his body composition. Dude is carrying a lot of bad weight and losing that will help to improve his athleticism. His focus in the offseason should be to trim down, improve explosiveness, improve mobility for his pad level, and continue refining his pass-rush plan and technique.

Totally agree, plus I see him getting locked up one on one too much. Need to see more moves from him and explosion like you mentioned.

This largely depends on what we expect from him. I don't think we necessarily drafted him to be "explosive" but more of an anchor in the middle. You always want explosiveness but the extra weight can help him in anchoring, It ultimately comes down to if he can consistently get his pad level right and time the snap if we expect him to be anything more than a massive cog against the run. The potential is certainly there but I think that's what he is

You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

He needs more power / strength. He's big but not strong. Needs a great weight lifting program and lots of creatine, essential amino acids, protein, etc etc

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

I agree and that's why a lot of fans were underwhelmed by the pick because that's high for a run stuffing DT.

Originally posted by Heroism:
The entire game in the trenches revolves around short, violent bursts at the snap. There isn't an aspect of defensive line play that isn't helped by being more explosive. That 15-20 pounds of slop around Collins' gut isn't helping him anchor. If he wants to improve his anchoring--which is only one aspect of run defense--he needs to improve his technique and his mobility and flexibility(ie knee and hip flexion) to improve his pad level.

Alfred Collins has a near identical build to Chris Jones, who is a trim ~310 pounds at 3tech. I think Collins can be around the same and become a more explosive, mobile and flexible athlete. It should also help with his conditioning. The guy was FRIED by the second half of the year and running on fumes. There's only benefits to be gained here.

Idk if he can lose 15-20 pounds just from his frame without cutting muscle he doesn't look that much overweight and cutting down will minimally help his mobility dude is just big and clunky. Which is fine just needs to work on pad level and hand work and has shown some progress on that. Stamina is a concern. I don't see him as a "Chris Jones" type think John Henderson is a better comparison

I think some of you are forgetting how bad the run D is. Picking a 2nd round run stuffing DT isnt a bad pick our run D was flat out bad and he can anchor the middle of the DL. Its hard to control the DL with undersized DL who are one dimentional and are good at rushing the passer and the ones who are good at both go top 10

I mean there are a tun of run stuffing DT expected to go in first 2 rounds this year

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

Yes they can be had, but there is limited upside.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

You don't use the 11th overall pick on a player who can't rush the passer either.

But it's what Shanahan and Lynch have done since they got here. Over draft a player to fill a need instead of taking the BPA. They do it every year.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

You don't use the 11th overall pick on a player who can't rush the passer either.

But it's what Shanahan and Lynch have done since they got here. Over draft a player to fill a need instead of taking the BPA. They do it every year.

Mykell was pretty close to BPA and i think its ridiculous to say he cant rush the passer he was a pro ready prospect at age 20 cause his strength length and size which made him already able to stop the run. He tested extremely well his 10 yard split was elite (it was .07 off from CMC who was considered elite) and was in top 10 % in almost all physcial measurements out of all EDGE prospects

the issue is he isnt meant to be used in a wide 9 system of the edge like that he is more of a 5 tech wh

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
You don't use the 43rd pick in the draft for an anchor in the middle. If he doesn't develop into an "explosive" player it will be another draft blunder.
Not saying he won't be a good player or be able to stop the run but you can get that latter in the draft.

You don't use the 11th overall pick on a player who can't rush the passer either.

But it's what Shanahan and Lynch have done since they got here. Over draft a player to fill a need instead of taking the BPA. They do it every year.

Mykell was pretty close to BPA and i think its ridiculous to say he cant rush the passer he was a pro ready prospect at age 20 cause his strength length and size which made him already able to stop the run. He tested extremely well his 10 yard split was elite (it was .07 off from CMC who was considered elite) and was in top 10 % in almost all physcial measurements out of all EDGE prospects

the issue is he isnt meant to be used in a wide 9 system of the edge like that he is more of a 5 tech wh

He played in a different system in college. The Niners experimented by moving him around before he got hurt. He may eventually settle at one spot and learn some techniques that allow him to shed blockers.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
He played in a different system in college. The Niners experimented by moving him around before he got hurt. He may eventually settle at one spot and learn some techniques that allow him to shed blockers.

Sounds like what we did with Solomon Thomas/Armstead got real clunky. Now he might have to rotate the 4-3 and 3-4 Dudes gonna be OLB/DE/DT