49ers select Alfred Collins-DT-Texas with the 43rd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by genus49:
Denver had their starters on the OL in for 3 drives. By the time they brought out their cut level players Collins was no longer out there(though I'd have to go and and check)

Obviously not the showing from the DL we wanted to see but given the competition it's not exactly the end of the world either.

Can he learn from the mistakes and build on it? That's the question.

I thought West did okay, I didn't watch too late into the game though.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Denver had their starters on the OL in for 3 drives. By the time they brought out their cut level players Collins was no longer out there(though I'd have to go and and check)

Obviously not the showing from the DL we wanted to see but given the competition it's not exactly the end of the world either.

Can he learn from the mistakes and build on it? That's the question.

I thought West did okay, I didn't watch too late into the game though.

I watched the first half but I'm not about to make any judgements on what I saw from individual players. I didn't know who they were facing most of the time and of course there's no game plan so all we see in these games is a scrimmage. I'll leave it up to the coaches to decide who looked good or bad.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
He was getting pushed by players that are gonna get cut in 2 weeks.

I actually think he was playing vs their starters (not 100% sure though) regardless his pad level was awful and overall wasn't very impressive for a 6-5 330lb DT with vines for arms, that's suppose to be stepping in right off the bat and handling dudes vs the run.

hopefully he can improve there at the very least because he's not suppose to be getting pushed around like that. I can't expect anything from him vs the pass

I keep hearing that the DL coach is telling him to keep driving but he stops a gives up. Not good.

I didn't watch much of the game, but saw a few reps where he was matched up vs Quinn Meinerz and knew it was going to be rough since Meinerz is one of the best guards in the game. He almost threw Quinn Meinerz onto his ass on a run play, but Meinerz' crazy grip strength and balance allowed him to hang on and recover.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Denver had their starters on the OL in for 3 drives. By the time they brought out their cut level players Collins was no longer out there(though I'd have to go and and check)

Obviously not the showing from the DL we wanted to see but given the competition it's not exactly the end of the world either.

Can he learn from the mistakes and build on it? That's the question.

I thought West did okay, I didn't watch too late into the game though.

I watched the first half but I'm not about to make any judgements on what I saw from individual players. I didn't know who they were facing most of the time and of course there's no game plan so all we see in these games is a scrimmage. I'll leave it up to the coaches to decide who looked good or bad.

It's not a judgement it's a critique. I mean I don't think it matters who they're playing against if they're top 50 picks that you expect to start for your team.

we're all just talking in here and imo Collins overall looked similar to what the reports have been thus far in camp it's not a final judgement or anything

Originally posted by Heroism:
I didn't watch much of the game, but saw a few reps where he was matched up vs Quinn Meinerz and knew it was going to be rough since Meinerz is one of the best guards in the game. He almost threw Quinn Meinerz onto his ass on a run play, but Meinerz' crazy grip strength and balance allowed him to hang on and recover.

If it's the play I think you're talking about it looked like he chopped his arms down and went inside. Idk if I call that "thronging him on his ass" was a good move but again maybe ito was a combination of both Meinerz strength and Collins lack of speed because Meinerz was quick to get back on the block. If Collins had the speed or acceleration to rip through Meinerz probably falls on his face for over committing to the bull rush

Originally posted by Since07:
If it's the play I think you're talking about it looked like he chopped his arms down and went inside. Idk if I call that "thronging him on his ass" was a good move but again maybe ito was a combination of both Meinerz strength and Collins lack of speed because Meinerz was quick to get back on the block. If Collins had the speed or acceleration to rip through Meinerz probably falls on his face for over committing to the bull rush

There was no chopping or bull rushing. It was just a stack and shed on a run play against a base block.

this is the rep. Meinerz grip strength and balance saved him. Collins has to do a better job of extending his arms on the punch to create space. Typical stuff from a rookie against one of the best in the league, but you can clearly see Collins packs a f**k ton of power:


tbh reminiscent of Kinlaw

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Denver had their starters on the OL in for 3 drives. By the time they brought out their cut level players Collins was no longer out there(though I'd have to go and and check)

Obviously not the showing from the DL we wanted to see but given the competition it's not exactly the end of the world either.

Can he learn from the mistakes and build on it? That's the question.

I thought West did okay, I didn't watch too late into the game though.

I watched the first half but I'm not about to make any judgements on what I saw from individual players. I didn't know who they were facing most of the time and of course there's no game plan so all we see in these games is a scrimmage. I'll leave it up to the coaches to decide who looked good or bad.

It's not a judgement it's a critique. I mean I don't think it matters who they're playing against if they're top 50 picks that you expect to start for your team.

we're all just talking in here and imo Collins overall looked similar to what the reports have been thus far in camp it's not a final judgement or anything

Critique. Judgement. Opinion. It all amounts to the same thing. Fans often think they know way mre about football than they really do. I've been watching for over 70 years but I'm not ever going to say i know more about evaluating the players than the coaches do. When we watch we don't know exactly what their assignment is. What the coaches are asking them to do. Are they working on some technique that they've been practicing? We see results but they can often be misleading.

Making a valid evaluation or judgement based on one pre season game may be okay for some people but I think it;'s foolish. Especially for rookie who are still trying to figure out what's going on. Worse than trying to predict the outcome for the season after losing the opening game.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Since07:
If it's the play I think you're talking about it looked like he chopped his arms down and went inside. Idk if I call that "thronging him on his ass" was a good move but again maybe ito was a combination of both Meinerz strength and Collins lack of speed because Meinerz was quick to get back on the block. If Collins had the speed or acceleration to rip through Meinerz probably falls on his face for over committing to the bull rush

There was no chopping or bull rushing. It was just a stack and shed on a run play against a base block.

this is the rep. Meinerz grip strength and balance saved him. Collins has to do a better job of extending his arms on the punch to create space. Typical stuff from a rookie against one of the best in the league, but you can clearly see Collins packs a f**k ton of power:

Sigel works through the trash to get a tackle https://t.co/tSqZnjqS3n pic.twitter.com/Nmg8fhpI1B

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) August 10, 2025

tbh reminiscent of Kinlaw

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Some people trying to figure out why PFF didn't give Collins credit for a pressure here.

Seems like a legit question.

Originally posted by Heroism:
There was no chopping or bull rushing. It was just a stack and shed on a run play against a base block.

this is the rep. Meinerz grip strength and balance saved him. Collins has to do a better job of extending his arms on the punch to create space. Typical stuff from a rookie against one of the best in the league, but you can clearly see Collins packs a f**k ton of power:

Sigel works through the trash to get a tackle https://t.co/tSqZnjqS3n pic.twitter.com/Nmg8fhpI1B

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) August 10, 2025

tbh reminiscent of Kinlaw

That might be the play, not sure thought it was a pass play I saw him get inside also don't know if it was Meinerz he was against

Originally posted by genus49:
Some people trying to figure out why PFF didn't give Collins credit for a pressure here.

Seems like a legit question.

Split SACK 💥 for DL Robert Beal Jr. & Sebastian Valdez. #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/jsKXedrjnM

— 49er_Edits (@49er_edits) August 10, 2025

Jesus Collins destroyed his guy. Also, Collins makes Valdez look like a lb.... He's f**kin huge

Originally posted by genus49:
Some people trying to figure out why PFF didn't give Collins credit for a pressure here.

Seems like a legit question.

Split SACK 💥 for DL Robert Beal Jr. & Sebastian Valdez. #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/jsKXedrjnM

— 49er_Edits (@49er_edits) August 10, 2025

Probably because it's a busted screen pass. Valdez with great awareness and hustle.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Critique. Judgement. Opinion. It all amounts to the same thing. Fans often think they know way mre about football than they really do. I've been watching for over 70 years but I'm not ever going to say i know more about evaluating the players than the coaches do. When we watch we don't know exactly what their assignment is. What the coaches are asking them to do. Are they working on some technique that they've been practicing? We see results but they can often be misleading.

Making a valid evaluation or judgement based on one pre season game may be okay for some people but I think it;'s foolish. Especially for rookie who are still trying to figure out what's going on. Worse than trying to predict the outcome for the season after losing the opening game.

No one here is proclaiming they know more than whomever. I'm certainly not.

personally, I didn't see much from a guy that's suppose to be that imposing…at top 50 pick.….its not even one "evaluation" it's goes back to his play at texas. They spent all that draft capital on defense and never came away with a legit pass rushing DT that fits this scheme. IMO I think that was a poor move, especially in a draft like this.

also, no one is saying he can't figure it out, I think we're allowed to have a conversation about it in the WZ though

Originally posted by genus49:
Some people trying to figure out why PFF didn't give Collins credit for a pressure here.

Seems like a legit question.

Split SACK 💥 for DL Robert Beal Jr. & Sebastian Valdez. #49ers #FTTB pic.twitter.com/jsKXedrjnM

— 49er_Edits (@49er_edits) August 10, 2025

Good rep from collins nonetheless