49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Isosceles:
Scoots wrote: "That's a whole different kettle of different fish. I've been wondering when TV deals were going to collapse for 20 years. The end result for the NBA seems to be coming to a head where games have become harder to find and the regular season games have been massively devalued by the cutups on youtube available 10 minutes after the end of the game. And yet Disney/ESPN/ABC, NBC, and Amazon decided to pay near $7B a year for NBA rights." (me) I went cable-less years ago. Now, I don't even try to bother with TNT games. I sometimes listen to playoff games on the satellite radio. Or, like last night, skip it altogether. Read something about it the next morning.

That's the way things have been going. I can't believe they agreed to pay so much for "TV" rights.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.

That ankle injury undoubtedly cost him money. I think it introduced enough doubt to where he was able to drop a few more spots to where the 49ers could pick him.

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised in a few years to hear a lot of talk about how several teams dropped the ball by letting him fall so far.

I had him over Carter. I don't think he can maintain the edge on run plays against NFL monsters, and I think he'll struggle when NFL tackles can get their hands on him. That said his explosion and bend is elite, so on passing downs he's going to be a problem occasionally. Williams is so big and powerful his pass rush isn't even his most important skill to start, it's that tackles are not going to be able to throw him around and he's going to control the edge early. At least that's what I thought.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I think the rookie contract system reduced holdouts but also probably shortened careers because high pick rookies are more expensive now than they used to be.

how so ? back in the day many high picked first round players, especially QBs, were more expensive.

Is there a modern day equivalent of Sam Bradford rookie contract ? He got 50m guaranteed back in 2010.

His contract might have been the last straw before they re-did the rookie pay scale.

edit: in comparison, Cam Ward, the #1 QB in this years draft, ie 15 years later with the cap rising by a lot (we will omit that 2010 season had no cap for easier conversation), has gotten 48m in guaranteed money. Less than Bradford.

I'm really excited about this guy. I think he's more NFL ready than some analysts have stated. I think he'll be a solid pass rusher from the start, with upside, and a really good run blocker. I like the way he uses his arm length so well.

Originally posted by Isosceles:
Scoots wrote: "That's a whole different kettle of different fish. I've been wondering when TV deals were going to collapse for 20 years. The end result for the NBA seems to be coming to a head where games have become harder to find and the regular season games have been massively devalued by the cutups on youtube available 10 minutes after the end of the game. And yet Disney/ESPN/ABC, NBC, and Amazon decided to pay near $7B a year for NBA rights." (me) I went cable-less years ago. Now, I don't even try to bother with TNT games. I sometimes listen to playoff games on the satellite radio. Or, like last night, skip it altogether. Read something about it the next morning.

I switch between YouTubeTV and Hulu TV. $80 a month and you get all the channels + recordings

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I switch between YouTubeTV and Hulu TV. $80 a month and you get all the channels + recordings

Playstation Vue was perfect before they decided to quit Streaming. YouTubeTV is ok for a family of 3 or less. I am now stuck with Hulu. Well past $80 at this point though . For me anyway

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
Used Georgia in CFB25 and got a pick 6 against Texas with Mykel

Do we play the Texans this yr?

Originally posted by Heroism:
this guy's energy is freaking awesome. The tape and measurables are an easy sell, but you can see why they were all in on Mykel after spending time with him during the visit.

Mykel Williams gave me a LOT of confidence in the @49ers ...

Big fan. Take a look & thank you @PaniniAmerica ! pic.twitter.com/3NIkJDMlBz

— Kay Adams (@heykayadams) May 27, 2025

Yeah I enjoyed that interview…as I usually do when Kay is involved.

Mykel just seems like such a good dude and love that he's all business there. Excited to see him develop here.

Originally posted by Heroism:
this guy's energy is freaking awesome. The tape and measurables are an easy sell, but you can see why they were all in on Mykel after spending time with him during the visit.

Mykel Williams gave me a LOT of confidence in the @49ers ...

Big fan. Take a look & thank you @PaniniAmerica ! pic.twitter.com/3NIkJDMlBz

— Kay Adams (@heykayadams) May 27, 2025

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.

That ankle injury undoubtedly cost him money. I think it introduced enough doubt to where he was able to drop a few more spots to where the 49ers could pick him.

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised in a few years to hear a lot of talk about how several teams dropped the ball by letting him fall so far.

I'm excited to watch this kid grow. Still not even 21

"I love everything Niners!"

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by Scoots:
I think the rookie contract system reduced holdouts but also probably shortened careers because high pick rookies are more expensive now than they used to be.

how so ? back in the day many high picked first round players, especially QBs, were more expensive.

Is there a modern day equivalent of Sam Bradford rookie contract ? He got 50m guaranteed back in 2010.

His contract might have been the last straw before they re-did the rookie pay scale.

edit: in comparison, Cam Ward, the #1 QB in this years draft, ie 15 years later with the cap rising by a lot (we will omit that 2010 season had no cap for easier conversation), has gotten 48m in guaranteed money. Less than Bradford.

It's not singular contracts, it's collective.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Isosceles:
Scoots wrote: "That's a whole different kettle of different fish. I've been wondering when TV deals were going to collapse for 20 years. The end result for the NBA seems to be coming to a head where games have become harder to find and the regular season games have been massively devalued by the cutups on youtube available 10 minutes after the end of the game. And yet Disney/ESPN/ABC, NBC, and Amazon decided to pay near $7B a year for NBA rights." (me) I went cable-less years ago. Now, I don't even try to bother with TNT games. I sometimes listen to playoff games on the satellite radio. Or, like last night, skip it altogether. Read something about it the next morning.

I switch between YouTubeTV and Hulu TV. $80 a month and you get all the channels + recordings

I got an HD antenna and free media server software for network TV, everything else I stream and tend to, like you, rotate purveyors.

Originally posted by Scoots:
It's not singular contracts, it's collective.

you claimed that "high pick rookies are more expensive now than they used to be."

and I asked you how so

After the 2011 CBA, young rookie qb on cheap is the best value in the NFL

pre 2011 CBA, picking a rookie qb high in the first round wasnt even a value - you could pay a huge amount of your salary cap to a rookie jamarcus russell to be a bum

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
you claimed that "high pick rookies are more expensive now than they used to be."

and I asked you how so

After the 2011 CBA, young rookie qb on cheap is the best value in the NFL

pre 2011 CBA, picking a rookie qb high in the first round wasnt even a value - you could pay a huge amount of your salary cap to a rookie jamarcus russell to be a bum

In 2025 the first pick signed for $48+M, the 2nd for $46, then $45, etc down to the last first round pick getting almost $15M. Sure the 2005 first pick got $53M, but the 2nd only got $26, down to the last first round pick getting $6M. Then look at signing bonuses and guaranteed money and it's MUCH worse. In 2005 the total first round signing bonuses was less than $40M, in 2025 the first two picks alone got more than $60M signing bonus.

There is more money and less flexibility in high pick draft pick contracts now than there used to be. Looking at only QBs is not a fair comparison.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Heroism:
this guy's energy is freaking awesome. The tape and measurables are an easy sell, but you can see why they were all in on Mykel after spending time with him during the visit.

Mykel Williams gave me a LOT of confidence in the @49ers ...

Big fan. Take a look & thank you @PaniniAmerica ! pic.twitter.com/3NIkJDMlBz

— Kay Adams (@heykayadams) May 27, 2025

Is Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Saw that Scot McCloughan was a big fan of Williams. His #2 DE after Abdul Carter.

That ankle injury undoubtedly cost him money. I think it introduced enough doubt to where he was able to drop a few more spots to where the 49ers could pick him.

I wouldn't even be slightly surprised in a few years to hear a lot of talk about how several teams dropped the ball by letting him fall so far.

I'm excited to watch this kid grow. Still not even 21

I really like his energy. Really seems to love the game. So talented and so young. i feel really good about him becoming an epic bookend to bosa.